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I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Robochobo
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I'm thinking based
I had the good fortune/bad fortune to grow up in an era when we lived on new games rather than remakes. I think that makes a big difference.
Have they devoted more time to Konami and Capcom than to internal projects? Again, I respect your point of view, but it makes me laugh to be considered crazy.
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That Geoff must be the illuminati if he's also influencing the DICE Awards and the Baftas. Are we sure he's not on the Epstien list?ha ha yes
Guilty_AI
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Skifi28
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I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I get it. I was born in 85 and know the era you're referring to. Nowadays there are a lot of sequels, remakes and remasters.
However. Saying that, Wolverine isn't a remake. Neither is Saros or Marvel Tōkon.
In fact, a lot of games shown off last night were new titles. Not all exclusive, but new nonetheless.
Hyper_hyper
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Helldivers 2 alone negates the flop of Concord by a huge margin ( before it went to Xbox)
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Moondoggy
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"In the Super Mario Bros. movie, Mario will be played by Chris Pratt, he's so cool"
- Miyamoto's Ghost
KanKamAndNob
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While I agree in spirit, live service garbage is what keeps gaming alive at least financially. As retarded as I think this is (and why I hate how normies have infested this industry), horse manure like sportsball, Call of Duty, Fortnite, and other multiplayer crap makes more money for Sony literally in one day than entire franchises can make in years. Whether you like it or not (I sure don't), live service is here to stay even if it just the same fucking games year over year. The majority of console owners only play one or maybe two new games a year and it's usually their retarded kickball/throwball simulators or the yearly COD. Maybe they'll branch out and play Assassin's Creed or the next console exclusive "BaNgEr", but that's about it.
I do agree that trying to pull those people away from their favorite live service game is a higher hurdle than Sony or any other console manufacturer wants to admit. Why would they give up playing Fortnite with their friends, lose or stall all the progress they made grinding out their character, just to play a shitty looking clone of Fortnite and have to start over from scratch. Live service games are literally designed to be both time and money sinks. There are exceptions (Helldivers and Marvel: Rivals), but my point still stands. Unless that MP game is truly something special, people especially the moronic normies who only play MP games with their equally stupid friends, wants what's familiar and safe and not risk losing what they sunk so much time into.
I do agree that trying to pull those people away from their favorite live service game is a higher hurdle than Sony or any other console manufacturer wants to admit. Why would they give up playing Fortnite with their friends, lose or stall all the progress they made grinding out their character, just to play a shitty looking clone of Fortnite and have to start over from scratch. Live service games are literally designed to be both time and money sinks. There are exceptions (Helldivers and Marvel: Rivals), but my point still stands. Unless that MP game is truly something special, people especially the moronic normies who only play MP games with their equally stupid friends, wants what's familiar and safe and not risk losing what they sunk so much time into.
dreamstation
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Hey some of us like playing online with our friends and family so I'm going to disagree.
AmuroChan
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Sony actually doesn't own that many studios of note. Half their studios are either irrelevant (MM, Haven, Firesprite), support/porting studios (Valkyrie, Nixxes, Malaysia), or locked into forever IPs (GT, MLB). The studios that people actually care about we mostly know what they're doing already (ND, Santa Monica, Housemarque, Insomniac). Also, most gamers don't give a shit if the game is made in house or not. They're just as happy playing Marvel Tokon than they would be playing Bend's next game.
CowboyLou
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Curious why those two are "exceptions", especially Rivals. Or are they just the ones you personally find more appealing?
Hyper_hyper
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Why calling people who love MP games the stupid ones?
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KanKamAndNob
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They sold well and has an active fan base unlike most other new live service games. I don't play either one. I was talking purely out of which live service games survive longer than the initial sales burst at release.
CowboyLou
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Ok, was just curious if there was something about Rivals that made it less of a time/money sink in comparison to its competition. I haven't played it.
dreamstation
Member
Exactly. It's pretty easy really, just don't play the games you don't like.
CowboyLou
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Generic
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Exactly.
CowboyLou
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Bernardougf
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agreed
playbignbox
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Horizon? Yes.
Marathon? No.
Marathon? No.
bighugeguns
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OP is kind of right, guys, it's a bit of a shitshow.
bighugeguns
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I hope Marathon does okay because of art direction alone and I feel it should be rewarded, that's my selfish reason, but I'm not participating in worthless cultish brandboy OT bullshit so I'll admit it's very 50/50 and things are still very shaky for this game.
Redeeming Casualty
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I'm not sure if they needed to bomb, but the failures they have had so far I think indicates to them that maybe investing into all these games and pushing the single player stuff to the side was probably not a good long term idea. I do think games such as Helldivers 2 are great and is most likely going to be the game I logged the most time in online once the PS5 is over with. I think they can have multiplayer focused games and single player. I just don't understand why they don't make smaller games to sell or green light the weird experimental stuff. I would kill for a Vib Ribbon, Intellgent Cube, Time Crisis, Ape Escape, Little Big Planet, or Syphon Filter kind of game that helps give the players more interest in the playstation. It gives us more variety as players and it would be a good look for playstation. They had a great variety of games on the PS4 and backwards compability for the 5 is great but i would love to see more variety that they had when I picked up A PS4 in 2019. I can always go back but i'm always intrigued to see what happens moving forward.
Men_in_Boxes
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OP on March 5th...
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Puscifer
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A book written by a radical sect of cavemen and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Venom Snake
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In virtually every console generation, starting with PS1, Sony has had several unsuccessful exclusive titles. It will always be this way.
And as much as i love some good old single-player games, they are – with few exceptions – short-term revenue for the publisher.
At a time when the console market is stable but has not grown much in almost two decades, it is understandable that Sony will invest in models with different revenue dynamics, even if these are risky areas to explore. Look at Helldivers 2, it generated $700 million across all platforms in two years, if you eventually manage to hit the target you can compensate for the previous or upcoming failures.
These are the times we live in now bud.
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