JackMcGunns
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A 33% improvement is “marginal” in what planet? I get people have opinions, but it’s nothing more than that, an opinion. Also if you don’t like the 40fps option, then use the 60hz option.
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Starfield May Update - Adds 40/60 hz Options for Series X and More QoL Updates (May 15)
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A 33% improvement is “marginal” in what planet? I get people have opinions, but it’s nothing more than that, an opinion. Also if you don’t like the 40fps option, then use the 60hz option.
LordCBH
Member
I’m actually really interested in how that unlocked mode performs. As far as I’m concerned, the more games that have these options the better. VRR TV’s have been awesome to have.
consoul
Member
Looking forward to hearing impressions on this patch. Starfield has dropped below half price at my local gamestore and 40Hz quality mode is making me think about picking it up.
After 8 months, I'm sure a lot of issues have been worked out. Fundamental issues will of course remain, but it feels like this might be worth a shot now.
After 8 months, I'm sure a lot of issues have been worked out. Fundamental issues will of course remain, but it feels like this might be worth a shot now.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
Looking at nexus, it seems that this update will break the mesh mods already. Bethesda did some changes, which is really strange, in the past games they didn't mess around with the meshes structure.
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clarky
Gold Member
Id say hold off until the expansion if youve waited this long. I had a ton of fun with the game but i can acknowledge it does have some serious flaws.
Negotiator101
Member
I'd wait till the DLC drops as there's bound to be more Updates when that launches.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Treat it like a GAAS title with first major update.
Community will let you know when its time to play. You will start seeing praise in threads / posts / tweets etc.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Well, they are working on the game, building new quests and expansions.I’m not getting the feeling from this that they are taking a no man’s sky redemption arc approach
I’ll be patient, you never know, maybe they’ll surprise me and in a few years it might be good. Till then the 20-30hr I sank into it will remain that.
Must be doing it to improve the game right?
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Pretty big updates here and more coming …I’m not getting the feeling from this that they are taking a no man’s sky redemption arc approach
I’ll be patient, you never know, maybe they’ll surprise me and in a few years it might be good. Till then the 20-30hr I sank into it will remain that.
anthony2690
Gold Member
Looking forward to this and the first expansion, I genuinely loved this game to my surprise.
I intially started it thinking I'll play a little and drop off/not enjoy it like fallout new Vegas & 4 sadly.
But it hooked me and I went through the entire game and all the faction quests, dropped at Ng+ as I don't like losing my items, so I reverted my save prior to beating the game and now awaiting the expansion
I intially started it thinking I'll play a little and drop off/not enjoy it like fallout new Vegas & 4 sadly.
But it hooked me and I went through the entire game and all the faction quests, dropped at Ng+ as I don't like losing my items, so I reverted my save prior to beating the game and now awaiting the expansion
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Jumping back in tonight for a bit. Going to try it on Xbox as I found the loading painful on console vs my PC.
b0uncyfr0
Member
Trynna figure that out as well. Not opposed to giving it a try with 40hz mode.
Hugare
Member
Not quite
They are making story expansions. They made those for Oblivion, Fallout, Skyrim etc., but those hardly changed the game's core, they've only added story content (and new weapons etc.)
I wouldnt hold my breath for something like No Man's Sky out of this game. From my past experience with Bethesda over the years, they are no Hello Games. Stuff that was broken kept on being broken.
I would love being wrong, 'cause I see the potential here, but dont hold your breath for Bethesda
vaibhavpisal
Member
Bethesda has done even better than Hello Games with Fallout 76.
What’s missing in Starfield is stuff to do on planets. They have confirmed they are working on quests. Sounds like they know what needs to be done.
Hugare
Member
They had to, F76 was GAAS. Starfield is not.
There's so much more missing in Starfield than just stuff to do on planets, imo. But I made peace with it already, knowing that most likely will never reach what I expected from it.
It's frustrating to notice that it has actually regressed in some ways compared to past Bethesda titles
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Check out how much fleshed out maps are in the new update.
Just need to believe in Todd
Punished Miku
Member
I've never seen Bethesda expansions fundamentally alter any of their games. If you really don't like the game, you're not gonna like it going forward.
If you like almost everything about it but think it could use a few extra features, and more variety in randomized content plugged into the planet tiles, then maybe they'll do that.
And what is the issue? XSX supports 40Hz and 60Hz in Starfield now so of course it is not a hardware issue.
FlyyGOD
Member
It's probably people who have never played the game .
Chukhopops
Member
As of right now, no.
TheGodfather07
Member
Good idea to fix some of the issues in time for that PS5 release. It's gonna be like a relaunch of the game.
Inuteu
Member
I dropped the game mainly because navigation is so confuse
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Check out how much fleshed out maps are in the new update.
Just need to believe in Todd
If Todd believes it, we will come.
Can confirm, haven't seen the update on Xbox here yet, either.
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clarky
Gold Member
I played on PC and couldn't understand the fuss over the loading. Then i fired it up on the series x just out of curiosity, and well yeah, its bad.
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The so called "velocity architecture" is a joke
clarky
Gold Member
Yeah it wasn't a great experience. No issues with any other games although my experience with the X is limited.
It is not, what happens is that no developer is taking full advantage of everything it offers.
So you mean to tell me that EVERY microsoft developer is ignoring what the hardware has???? Give me a break. Its a fake bullet point on the side of the box and thats all it will ever be.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Do you know what it even is? It's not an on/off toggle, it's a combination of multiple things, some like Direct Storage API which PC games are taking advantage of now too.
The made limited use of the various VA architecture functions mainly because the are avoiding incompatibilities and the extra work on R&D of alternative paths on other platforms that don't support those hardware and software features. Like Sampler Feedback Streaming (SFS) which is implemented in only a few games.
This it not as simple as make a change on one line of code. In some cases, developers need to completely rethink some parts of their engines to really take advantage of what the hardware could offer, and at the same time make them compatible with other platforms that do not support those functions.
intbal
Member
It's not implemented in any games.
DF said it's only being currently investigated for future use.
You last sentence is another problem altogether. They arent supporting anything they supposedly put in their own flagship box!!!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
And it's a damn shame, on-paper (and in presentations) it reduces the memory footprint pretty significantly.
intbal
Member
And it's a damn shame, on-paper (and in presentations) it reduces the memory footprint pretty significantly.
It might require too much re-working of the game engines (and asset pipeline) that developers are currently using. That's time and money that they're just not going to spend when they've already got solutions which work for them. Especially now, when devs inside Microsoft are likely fearing termination if they don't ship highly profitable games.
EPIC implemented it in the Matrix Awakens demo in collaboration with The Coalition, and is now implemented and tested on other games in development.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The update is live, 24.7 GB
It's a big'un !
(not my picture)
It's a big'un !
(not my picture)
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SEGAvangelist
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Awesome. Let's hope the 60fps mode isn't behind a coat of Vaseline.The update is live, 24.7 GB
It's a big'un !
(not my picture)
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think I'm gonna stick to the Quality / 60hz mode. FO4's update with VRR is extremely solid. Hoping for more of the same here.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Is it confirmed that all the same modes from Fallout 4 will be in Starfield?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, that's what they said in the announcement, it'll let you choose 30/40/60/Uncap and Performance/Quality as separate toggles.
Probably gonna see a lot more drops in the cities, but expecting the general 'world' and dungeon traversal to be much smoother.
Downloading it now but not sure if I'll get a chance to check it within the next hour.
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Punished Miku
Member
I'm likely staying on 30. But I'll try it.
Looking forward to tweaking some of the survival difficulty options.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Quality 60fps with VRR is hopefully good enough, then.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Full patch notes at the link below, did not copy the massive bug fixes segment.
They've added a straight up V-Sync on/off option on the Xbox version, kinda crazy and will only benefit VRR display owners, but good that they're supporting it.
Starfield’s latest update is here and it’s bringing several new features with it!
Xbox Series X Display Settings
We’ve heard from many that you’d like to have more control over the graphic fidelity and performance on Xbox, similar to how PC players can customize their experience. We’re now enabling that on Xbox Series X with a few options that you can use to find the best fit for your playstyle and display.
For each of these, we highly recommend a Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) Display running at 120hz, and to verify your Xbox is setup to use it. If you have it setup this way, Starfield will now default to a frame rate target of 40, while keeping the priority for full visuals.
They've added a straight up V-Sync on/off option on the Xbox version, kinda crazy and will only benefit VRR display owners, but good that they're supporting it.
Starfield Update 1.11.36 - May 15, 2024
Starfield latest update is available for download now. Get all the details on the host of new features and fixes included in the update.
bethesda.net
Starfield’s latest update is here and it’s bringing several new features with it!
- Improved surface maps - We’ve heard your feedback, and we’ve made some big improvements to surface maps, so you’ll always know just where to go and no longer “get lost” on the way to your parents’ place (and they weren’t buying that excuse anyway, you should really go visit them).
- New gameplay options - For those of you who like a bit of an extra challenge or want to make some aspects of the game easier, you can customize your experience with brand new options in the Settings menu. Want to make ground combat harder but ship combat easier? You can do just that!
- Added Ship Decoration mode to the interior of Ships – now you can decorate your ships just like you can with Outposts!
- Added Tabs to Container menus to make managing your inventory easier.
- Added the ability to change Traits and appearance after entering the Unity.
- Added Dialogue camera toggle in the Settings.
- Added Display settings for Xbox Series X to prioritize Visuals or Performance, adjust Frame Rate Target, and toggle VSync (Series X).
Xbox Series X Display Settings
We’ve heard from many that you’d like to have more control over the graphic fidelity and performance on Xbox, similar to how PC players can customize their experience. We’re now enabling that on Xbox Series X with a few options that you can use to find the best fit for your playstyle and display.
For each of these, we highly recommend a Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) Display running at 120hz, and to verify your Xbox is setup to use it. If you have it setup this way, Starfield will now default to a frame rate target of 40, while keeping the priority for full visuals.
- Frame Rate Target: You can now choose between 30, 40, 60 or an Uncapped frame rate on VRR displays. If you do not have a VRR display running 120hz, you will still be able to select from 30 or 60. Screen tearing may occur at times when selecting 60 on a non-VRR display.
- Prioritize: You can now prioritize between Visuals and Performance while trying to maintain the frame rate target. If you’re choosing a frame rate target of 60 or above, we recommend changing this to Performance. Prioritizing Visuals keeps the highest resolution while maintaining full detail for special effects, lighting, and crowds. Prioritizing Performance lowers internal resolution and detail for special effects, lighting, and crowds. Both modes may adjust internal resolution dynamically when scenes or action get heavier as well. When switching between modes, you will see the lighting change briefly as the system catches up to the new mode.
- VSync: You can now toggle between VSync off or on. Choosing off will separate the game frames from the monitor's refresh rate, and may result in screen tearing. Toggling On will synchronize the frame rate to the monitor's refresh rate avoiding screen tearing but limiting number of frames.
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SEGAvangelist
Member
The VSync option is nice.