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[Guilty_AI]

Helldivers 2 is also still blocked in those regions despite the requirements supposedly having become optional. Can't help but think Sony is up to something sketchy here

 

[mayham2199]

Helldivers 2 is also still blocked in those regions despite the requirements supposedly having become optional. Can't help but think Sony is up to something sketchy here

They probably just want to go ahead and establish a norm for all their games at this point and IMO that's a better idea. Don't want to get the hopes up of peoples in these countries.

 

[Topher]

Neither Valve nor Sony are officially commenting on this so it's an unclear situation. Sucker Punch were tweeting about how linking isn't required to play SP, I don't think a first party studio would be putting that out if they knew the game was going to be blocked by their parent publisher.

Confusion and lack of communication was the norm with Helldivers 2 so why would this situation be any different?

 

[Guilty_AI]

They probably just want to go ahead and establish a norm for all their games at this point and IMO that's a better idea. Don't want to get the hopes up of peoples in these countries.

Or they fully plan on walking back on the non-PSN requirement for HD2.

 

[Kerotan]

I didn't even know a country named "Palau" existed.

Neither does Sony.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

In Philippines the PS5 is oficially sold there but thers no oficial PSN there yet. what Sony recomend the players to do is create an account from other country. So i dont really know why this is a problem on Steam when players can create accounts from whatever countries they want. I have PSN accounts from 4 diferent continents.

No idea then. I can only think it's government regulations. Sony could have a more physical presence in those areas while valve doesn't so they're more flexible in that way

 

[rkofan87]

Or they fully plan on walking back on the non-PSN requirement for HD2.

and put in a requirement for psn for the sp of ghost.

 

[adamsapple]

Confusion and lack of communication was the norm with Helldivers 2 so why would this situation be any different?

It very well could be. Some transparency from either side would be nice.

Neither does Sony.

 

[Topher]

It very well could be. Some transparency from either side would be nice.

It is Sony's game, not Valve's.

 

[mitch1971]

(not me, i just type like a monkey)

How's that Shakespeare play going?

 

[adamsapple]

Topher , looking at the way that email is worded, it sounds like Valve are taking this step pro-actively, to me at least.

 

[ToadMan]

Awesome!

I'll say it again for a new thread.

PS3 era Sony - get two jobs to afford the console.

PS5 era Sony - get a second nationality to purchase games.

Kind of crazy really. MS can't give it's games away on GP, while Sony just shrugs as potential customers are blocked from paying full price lol.

 

[bender]

Confusion and lack of communication was the norm with Helldivers 2 so why would this situation be any different?

You'd have to guess the online component of Tsushima will launch in a much better state based on demand alone.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Does this impact anyone here? Including the topic creator? Where are our GAF Antarctican's to protest?

 

[ArtHands]

Really expose how backward Sony's digital infrastructure is.

 

[IDappa]

Wonder how many people play in Antarctica

 

[Barakov]

Kinda crazy how everyone is taking L's this week.

 

[adamsapple]

Wonder how many people play in Antarctica

Almost 610GB worth of usage in Steam in the last 7 days.

Steam: Game and Player Statistics

 

[Draugoth]

How's that Shakespeare play going?

Still need a couple trillion years

Almost 610GB worth of usage in Steam in the last 7 days.

Steam: Game and Player Statistics

 

[Chris_Rivera]

Almost 610GB worth of usage in Steam in the last 7 days.

Steam: Game and Player Statistics

That has too be fake somewhat.

 

[StereoVsn]

Neither Valve nor Sony are officially commenting on this so it's an unclear situation. Sucker Punch were tweeting about how linking isn't required to play SP, I don't think a first party studio would be putting that out if they knew the game was going to be blocked by their parent publisher.

They may not know WTF headquarters is doing though. Hell, maybe nobody over there knows WTF they are all doing.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

That and it's that weird thing about Japanese VA in some SIE published games being exclusive to the Japanese version... Happened with Stellar Blade where the Japanese VA is just for the Japanese version.

Won't be a problem on PC. Even dragon's dogma 1 can be played with JP audio thanks to mods.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

based in the amount of comments i guess this "drama" is a fart in the wind?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

When you are in a hurry you are always prone to make mistakes (not me, i just type like a monkey)

dont worry, im dislexic so i cant see whats wrong.

 

[BlackTron]

It seems that Valve is abusing its functional monopoly again, because I doubt Sony would remove the game for sale in countries/regions that do have PSN like US territories and the Philippines.

PlayStation® Country selector

Honestly for all of the virtue signaling over the Helldivers 2 stuff, because a subset of PC players are too stupidly proud to make a PSN account, they ended up screwing over people in these countries.

If only not for the pride against PSN accounts, all those people in restricted territories would never have had need to refund the game.

All this blaming clients for companies' stupidity is really getting old.

EDIT: Looking at the store i buy games that mention the audio languages, it seems the Directors Cut version of the game removed the japanese voices. So only the base PS4 version has English and Japanese voices to choose.

Thanks you just saved me sixty bucks. The game takes place in fucking Japan. I'll just keep the base PS4 version whatever. "Director's Cut" hahaha

 

[BlackTron]

Or they fully plan on walking back on the non-PSN requirement for HD2.

Or Steam doesn't trust Sony. They might be uncomfortable selling in these territories now without a literal written agreement from Sony that the requirement won't be imposed later, as it would leave Steam in another bad spot. Of course it's more realistic just to let those countries get shafted. Sony just did to Steam what CDPR did to Sony with Cyberpunk. No sir, they don't like it.

 

[Three]

That has too be fake somewhat.

Why? That's like 6 people installing CoD.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Or Steam doesn't trust Sony. They might be uncomfortable selling in these territories now without a literal written agreement from Sony that the requirement won't be imposed later, as it would leave Steam in another bad spot. Of course it's more realistic just to let those countries get shafted. Sony just did to Steam what CDPR did to Sony with Cyberpunk. No sir, they don't like it.

Its still not clear whether its sony or steam doing it. All points to it being Sony themselves blocking the game.

 

[Juza]

Who is actually ordering these restrictions, Sony or Valve?

Sony's staff is taking preemptive steps, which will most likely be changed in the coming days. Valve does not take similar steps on pubs/devs applications. It is absolutely up to them. This is what Steam Support told me when I asked them once about why some games blocked in some regions?

 

[Topher]

Topher , looking at the way that email is worded, it sounds like Valve are taking this step pro-actively, to me at least.

Definitely. Email points back to the publisher. Seems clear to me Valve acts only as the middle man. Sony is the one making the decisions as it is their game.

 

[GHound]

Dont the PS5 version of GoT has japanese voices? If i remember correctly on PS4 you could choose Japanese voices, but the lip sinc was done for the english voices.

EDIT: Looking at the store i buy games that mention the audio languages, it seems the Directors Cut version of the game removed the japanese voices. So only the base PS4 version has English and Japanese voices to choose.

This is false. I only ever played the game and expansion on PS5 and with Japanese voices.
Edit: Also has Japanese listed under full audio on Steam.

 

[Aenima]

Thanks you just saved me sixty bucks. The game takes place in fucking Japan. I'll just keep the base PS4 version whatever. "Director's Cut" hahaha

As GHound mentioned my info is not correct. The store i checked dosent mention Japanese voices but aparently they are there on the Directors Cut too.

 

[IDappa]

Almost 610GB worth of usage in Steam in the last 7 days.

Steam: Game and Player Statistics

Geez, I suppose what else are they going to do when not studying the ice and maintaining the flat earths ice wall…..

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[FunkMiller]

They’re definitely going to try some further fuckery around this. They’re far too greedy not to. I just hope people see through it.

 

[darrylgorn]

Valve doing the work to remedy Sony's mistake.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

I am definitely buying the idea that Sony will require PS+ for MP for their PC games at some point.

There's no SP component to HD2, right?

 

[Fredrik]

So all games with any type of multiplayer functionality won’t be available in the 177 or whatever countries without PSN access?

Seems harsh to me. Some never even touch the online mode. Can’t they just state that the online component can’t be accessed in those countries?

 

[asdasdasdbb]

So all games with any type of multiplayer functionality won’t be available in the 177 or whatever countries without PSN access?

Seems harsh to me. Some never even touch the online mode. Can’t they just state that the online component can’t be accessed in those countries?

They may also be coming out with their own PC storefront. Which presumably will only be available in PSN countries.

 

[BennyBlanco]

 

[Hudo]

Sony's main issue is communication or rather the lack thereof. It's as if this is the first time publishing a game.

 

[tmlDan]

who cares what he has to say, he doesn't even play the game

 

[Gen.Grievous]

who cares what he has to say, he doesn't even play the game

He perfectly personifies the people making such a big deal out of this though. It's funny.

 

[Lumpyoatmeal]

Ayo Tiago Rodrigues , is that you?

Lol

 

[Fake]

Ayo Tiago Rodrigues , is that you?

Lol

Astroturfing never left my friends.

 

[Gamezone]

Wasn't people angry on Sony for the PSN backlash because the requirement would lock people out of certain region? And then they removed the requirement, but now they lock people out regardless if PSN is required or not? Am I wrong? And if I'm right, what the hell?

 

[Fredrik]

They may also be coming out with their own PC storefront. Which presumably will only be available in PSN countries.

That’s a lot of layers where people can fall off

1 > Having a capable enough gaming PC
2 >> Wanting to use a PS Storefront
3 >>> Interested in this type of game
4 >>>> Haven’t already played it on PS
5 >>>>> Living in a PSN country

But everybody does this, I just find it interesting right now when big corporations say they’re struggling to reach out to more gamers, then they shrink the group of potential customers with walls and boarders.

 

[SenkiDala]

That's so dumb... Just to push their shitty storefront they'll miss so many sales and most importantly so many gamers won't be able to play their games... Sony is dumb recently.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

Wasn't people angry on Sony for the PSN backlash because the requirement would lock people out of certain region? And then they removed the requirement, but now they lock people out regardless if PSN is required or not? Am I wrong? And if I'm right, what the hell?

It's not that hard. GoT has a multiplayer part and to be able to access that you need a PSN account. So Sony pulled the game from preorder in regions where they can't create a PSN account. Otherwise these people would buy a game they can only partially use.

 

[tmlDan]

That's so dumb... Just to push their shitty storefront they'll miss so many sales and most importantly so many gamers won't be able to play their games... Sony is dumb recently.

most of those regions are not big, especially for Sony single player games. They likely have way more data than your insinuations and it doesn't make sense financially for them when they're trying to achieve something such as cross progression and cross save.

You do know most big publishers have restrictions and region locks have been a thing since the beginning of gaming.