w1gglyjones
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I bet if the PR statement never referred to this 3 packs discount deal as a "season pass" we wouldn't even be here.
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Mario Golf: World Tour DLC [3 packs, 2 x 18 holes ea., New Chars, Day 1, Season Pass]
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I bet if the PR statement never referred to this 3 packs discount deal as a "season pass" we wouldn't even be here.
NeonZ
Member
There were discounted prices for buying the maps in packs of three, rather than individually, but there wasn't a large pack covering everything.
It also had day one DLC, although it was free during the first month.
BundysFeet
Banned
No. This is because Nintendo realized FINALLY all of the money it was leaving on the table. Smart decision by the company. Has nothing to do with any folks for bitching so stop.
I dont get this mentality. Up until an hour ago you were happy to buy a game that was COMPLETE at 10 courses with 120+ holes, but now DLC is announced that expands on this, the game somehow loses value?
Polioliolio
Member
When I buy a game, I want all of it. Isn't that a sentiment other people share?
Thing is, when it's not so easy to just buy a whole game.. walk into a store and buy it, and get the entire experience possible (until maybe a 6 month later expansion), they can just fuck right off with it, because I'm not screwing around with that.
I don't even care if it's additional content over an already meaty game release.. not even messing with it.
Thing is, when it's not so easy to just buy a whole game.. walk into a store and buy it, and get the entire experience possible (until maybe a 6 month later expansion), they can just fuck right off with it, because I'm not screwing around with that.
I don't even care if it's additional content over an already meaty game release.. not even messing with it.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
DLC is an absolutely fine concept when priced right and conservative Nintendo exclusive gamers will come to understand and appreciate this if Nintendo doesn't screw over their customers. $15 for 108 holes across six "courses" alongside new characters sounds fine to me. Less fine if (when) the price is hiked locally on my end of the world. But affordable nonetheless, with what sounds like a lot of content.
As Valve has argued many games are better suited to "services" instead of isolated products. Games like Mario Golf perfectly fit this, evolving in available content for the end user instead of locked to content with a single release, the only alternative to release entirely new bulk versions of the games. Content evolution from a single product instead of endless sequels. The balance that must be struck is content in the initial release with affordability and perceived value of upgrades/expansion/DLC. But it can and, under the right leadership, should be done.
For example, much like Mario Golf give me a Mario Kart that has me playing new tracks with new characters, with my friends locally and online, 12+ months after release. Keep me coming back. Keep evolving the product.
As Valve has argued many games are better suited to "services" instead of isolated products. Games like Mario Golf perfectly fit this, evolving in available content for the end user instead of locked to content with a single release, the only alternative to release entirely new bulk versions of the games. Content evolution from a single product instead of endless sequels. The balance that must be struck is content in the initial release with affordability and perceived value of upgrades/expansion/DLC. But it can and, under the right leadership, should be done.
For example, much like Mario Golf give me a Mario Kart that has me playing new tracks with new characters, with my friends locally and online, 12+ months after release. Keep me coming back. Keep evolving the product.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I think I would actually pay a lot of money for any retro or new track courses DLC, and I could say same thing about Smash 4 for characters and stages.
I would happily fork over cash for extra Mario Kart 8 tracks.
Same here. At long they don't cut any contents out of the games first.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
It's happening.
It's happening.
Interfectum
Member
Gaming community begs Nintendo to get with the times.
Gaming community flips out when Nintendo gets with the times.
Gaming community flips out when Nintendo gets with the times.
UncleSporky
Member
I really hope the courses are new, and not just remixes of existing assets.
I would also accept one new course, and one classic course from the Cube game in each pack.
I would also accept one new course, and one classic course from the Cube game in each pack.
This isn't the first time they've toyed with DLC. This is the first time they've discounted a game then had day 1 DLC with a season pass.
The correlation may not lead to causation, but its a bit too strong to ignore.
All that said, practically creating a whole new game with 3 new characters on top of it for $15 is perfectly fine by me. NSLU was an awesome value for what it was.
SolidSnakex
Member
If anything this is the Season Pass done right. Nintendo is telling you upfront what you're getting with the season pass. It seems like a lot of the time you'll see a SP announced and they won't actually specifically say what you're getting with it. You're just gambling that it's something worth that money.
I think you should put the words 'Parts of the' before 'gaming community'.
damn, its £35 in the UK.
Good points. I don't think this is a black and white situation here.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Yeah, remember that time the "gaming community" begged and pleaded for Nintendo to get with the times by making their games F2P and filling them with paywalls and microtransactions?
Me neither.
They would have been better off making the base game full price and selling the DLC for $5. Not to mention waiting a bit before releasing it. Day 1 Course DLC in a golf game is pretty pointless because you should be playing the base game first anyway. I have no interest at all in any of the characters but I will probably cave and buy it for the courses if they are good. They should really put out some screens for them. I hope they are all over the top crazy Mario themed things.
w1gglyjones
Member
How much was the full Fire Emblem Awakening game?
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
That's just awful. I was thinking of buying this.
Well I'd say that's pretty good value compared to some other DLC packs that cost the same price as all three of these put together and offer less than a third of the content available in the main game *cough* Call of Duty *cough*.
Pretty sure they've said Smash will have no DLC characters, correct me if I'm wrong.
Pretty sure they've said Smash will have no DLC characters, correct me if I'm wrong.
I like this experiment- they'll get a good idea of whether pricing a game for cheaper release and adding DLC to it afterwards makes a better overall profit, people who want just the game benefit from the cheaper price and people who want everything get a discount on the DLC. If it works, keep trying it in the future, if not, scrap it and go back to the way things were.
I don't disagree that this is not the bad kind of DLC (except for being day-1), but unfortunately it tends to go downhill from there. And once this door is open they'll never close it again. This is how it begins. Expect DLC characters in Brawl and Mario Kart next (=the bad kind of DLC).
I don't even want to know. The DLC in FE:A was absurd.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Still day 1! Idk if I will buy that season pass but atleast yoi can actually sample what your gonna buy. Everybody needs to do that. I cant remember how many map packs I hated and wish I never bought.
BundysFeet
Banned
Bingo.
Nintendo finally embracing modern standards
This is what we all wanted
No, it's not....
"Modern Standards" are a way to milk extra cash and not a benefit for the gamer...
I am sad to see Nintendo joining the bandwagon on this one.
w1gglyjones
Member
£27 if you look around online, and here's hoping the Season Pass will be no more than £10...
If you're gonna try to burn someone, at least wait til they post in the thread. This just looks petty.
I think you missed the point
Feel free to just state it then anytime?
Are you saying FE:A has much more extensive DLC? Yes, I agree.
Yeah, everyone said they should take pages from the other console manufacturers regarding online things... NOT LIKE THIS NINTENDO. Can I bribe Toad to get them cheaper? Day 1 DLC is just shitty. I could maybe understand cart size or something like that, but I bet it's just an unlock code. Even if it was a cart size issue, Nintendo should have given the Day 1 shit to digital purchasers for using their horribly overpriced eShop in the first place.
Yeah, if they said "We'll eventually release every single track from previous MK games, just buy the season pass!" I'd feel powerless to resist.
I would happily fork over cash for extra Mario Kart 8 tracks.
Yeah, if they said "We'll eventually release every single track from previous MK games, just buy the season pass!" I'd feel powerless to resist.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Basically, If I understand this right. It would led me to believe that people who don't have downloadable contents would able to participating online tournaments with new courses without splitting the online bases into two different groups. If it's so, then Nintendo have done it RIGHT that many companies never did. I meant companies have released many docs that would split the fan bases into half for online features.
I definitely agreed with this.
B
bomb
Unconfirmed Member
Love it. Wish every Nintendo game had a season pass. Cannot get enough content.
w1gglyjones
Member
That a "full" game does not necessarily require the purchase of existing DLC.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Benzychenz
Member
I'm fine with the DLC, even if it's day 1, they had a budget for the main game, they had a budget for the DLC, I understand that.
I'm fine with the season pass too, they've announced exactly what it gets, not some vague promises, and it gets it at a discount, that's cool.
Rosalina being a DLC character though I am not ok with. I originally thought her exclusion was just some weird Waluigi in Mario Kart 7 situation that makes no sense, but being announced as a DLC character before the game's even out just screams cut content to me.
She's one of 5 playable characters in 3D World, she's one of 5 playable (Mario) characters in Smash Bros 4, she's part of the main Mario crew these days, there's no way she wasn't planned for the base game.
I'm fine with the season pass too, they've announced exactly what it gets, not some vague promises, and it gets it at a discount, that's cool.
Rosalina being a DLC character though I am not ok with. I originally thought her exclusion was just some weird Waluigi in Mario Kart 7 situation that makes no sense, but being announced as a DLC character before the game's even out just screams cut content to me.
She's one of 5 playable characters in 3D World, she's one of 5 playable (Mario) characters in Smash Bros 4, she's part of the main Mario crew these days, there's no way she wasn't planned for the base game.
I'm with you. I'm usually against Season Passes, but I would gladly do it for Mario Kart 8.I would happily fork over cash for extra Mario Kart 8 tracks.
Shhh u should let more rage here.
StreetsAhead
Member
You make some good points. I probably won't by the DLC any time soon, but I may come back to it. I didn't intend to buy all the FEA, Pikmin 3, or NSMB2 content but over time I kept coming back and wanting more. I have almost all the content for all three games now and I regret nothing, because to me the content was worth it. Another 18 holes and a character for $7 might sound a little high to me right now, but in a month or two of playing, if the game is fun, I may change my mind.
Actually Nintendo's DLC (Fire Emblem, NSMBU and 2, Pikmin 3, Rusty's Real Deal Baseball) are an examples of doing it right. None of it has felt cheap and overpriced or as if it was pulled out of the game before release so they could sell it. This is why there hasn't been a backlash toward them for what they've done.
Been looking forward to Mario Gold for some time now and can't wait to play this. Just need to decide on physical or digital. This is the type of game I'd like always on my system.