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NPD Sales Results for April 2009
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Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Neo C. said:
I think this month's NPD provides a big hint. The industry needs a business model that is more sustainable.
A very large number of users are being overshot with graphics and horse power, the market at large can't be based upon those proposals any longer. This isn't about one company or the other company, or who's evil.
It's about gaming itself and what it means to have a business model that solves problems from companies that truly get it. I don't think a subscription service works if you still assume horse power and graphics are part of the issue, you're bound to keep overshooting the market if you assume that. The paradigm needs to change, we have it already to an extent but it did not sink in yet because the old values keep pushing hard against it. But that is eventually going to be a fatal recipe for everybody.
A paradigm shift is literally not about the fact that something exists, but its recognition.t's literally about how you're looking at it at any given time. Even if you simply decide to see one thing only, the other picture still exists and will affect the markets anyway. But to better integrate with a changing paradigm and find a truly working common ground it's necessary to look differently at certain things. If you're still valuing the overshooting evolution of visuals in gaming, regardless of what other financial solutions you may bring, the bottom line is the paradigm you're looking at is inherently still the old one.
What do you want to see?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
a rabbit and a duck.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Azelover said:
What do you want to see?
A dog with its head cut in half.
I did it.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
There's the rabbit you can see. Most people develop products around the rabbit, even most casual products are made around the rabbit(which is why a true paradigm change is needed). But then there's the duck, which is quite simply a new perspective.
I like the rabbit bit it has been running on solid ground for 25 years, in about 5 seconds it will reach a vast extension of water. How long do you think it will struggle to make it across before it sinks?
I like the rabbit bit it has been running on solid ground for 25 years, in about 5 seconds it will reach a vast extension of water. How long do you think it will struggle to make it across before it sinks?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Domino Theory said:
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Nocebo said:
But see, it's not about dabbits(whatever that is). Maybe the rabbit does work better, but is it because it will really work as it gets down to it? Or is it because you just like it better? The industry as far as I can tell is overwhelmingly dealing with issues using the approach they like better. But that's just me, seeing a duck or a rabbit, whatever works. As long as you're not forcefully keeping a rabbit perspective when duck thinking would be more effective.
EDIT: I hope this doesn't turn into a meme of sorts :lol
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Nintendo really should stop this strategy of announcing games with sudden release dates and no hype, it clearly doesn't work as every single game released with this strategy has gone on to see disappointing sales.
akilshohen
Member
Aerosmith in the top 10 is crazy.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Danthrax said:
Yeah that's too bad, really it's not about the animals. My straight analogy of actual rabbits and ducks don't really work well, I just tried to expand on the idea of paradigm shift. It's the duck/rabbit just because it was the first illustrative picture I found dealing with the subject(on wikipedia no less).
I think I may have staled it without intention. I'm not exactly an expert on the subject but I've never seen anyone else talk about it here, even though it's so predominant in this industry right now, and IMO important in a sense. If anyone more knowledgeable wants to expand on it and clear up any confusions you're welcome to do so. I'm going to sleep now.
I know you're trying to be serious but "this is neogaf, dude". GAF's all about taking things out of context and discussing animals ( socially awkward pinguin, courage wolf, salmon and bears, etc.)Azelover said:
I know what you're getting at and I absolutely agree. It's time the video game industry matured a little again. I think not only the industry but the users need a paradigm shift too.
TheGreatDave
Banned
Nirolak said:
:lol
creamsugar said:
That's what Nintendo gets for not hyping the game and doing these dumbass near stealth launches. Why couldn't they have shown it off last year and got more people interested and more word of mouth spreading? I'm not saying the game [Excitebots] could have been destined for crazy high numbers but I bet it would have been higher than 9k
A shame about Klonoa, but it's a 2d remake of a niche franchise from PS2 days...I may pick it up one day
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Where is this number coming from? Klonoa came out in May...
edit: I searched the thread and saw mentions of the early Gamestop shipment, but I got one of those pre-order copies and it still wasn't until the 1st of this month.
Cosmonaut X
Member
GrotesqueBeauty said:
It may have just fallen inside the reporting period for the April NPD though, as it came out on 5 May.
I'm not sure what the source is for creamsugar's numbers are though, and it's interesting that the Excitebots bundle is excluded from the sales noted - I would have thought that would have made up the bulk of its sales.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
For clarification, what period do monthly NPDs actually cover?Cosmonaut X said:
Sho_Nuff82
Member
akilshohen said:
Given the realities of our current economy, I'm surprised more budget games aren't charting highly.
Personally I've been waiting for quite a few fall releases to drop to 30 before picking them up.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Thanks. Although those still aren't very promising numbers, it seemed like a lot of people had trouble finding it on shelves at first. Hopefully the combo of good word of mouth + positive reviews + low price point will help it at least reach whatever Namco's sales goals are. I'd really like to see more of the little guy on Wii. Lord knows I've talked it up to everyone I can. It was an awesome game back in the PS1 days and it's an awesome game now. The care that went into the remake exceeded what I was expecting by a considerable margin.AniHawk said:
PhoenixDark
Banned
AniHawk said:
Since when has Pokemon ever been dead? It's a money printing franchise. Nintendo releases the same rehash every few months, with some new bells/whistles to convince people they aren't wasting their money, and bam...1mil sales out of nowhere
GrotesqueBeauty said:
I'm guessing a port of Lunatea's Veil is on the way if this one hits expectations. The original Door to Phantomile did 28k in the States and it wound up with a sequel. (EDIT) The Japanese release was much more successful, though. Unfortunately, it's kinda up to the States to carry the remake.
I don't think the franchise has even sold a million copies yet.
Haunted
Member
Stealth releasing Excitebots fucking failed. Poor Monster Games.
Let's see how the opposite marketing strategy works - Nintendo is releasing a steady flow of info, trailers and commercials, actively trying to build hype for Punch-Out.
Let's see how the opposite marketing strategy works - Nintendo is releasing a steady flow of info, trailers and commercials, actively trying to build hype for Punch-Out.
Here's hoping it can at least outsell the original on PS1. I hear it's such a good remake.AniHawk said:
One poor month of sales and everyone is running around screaming as if the sky is falling? :lol It's going to be like this until the Fall. It's ALWAYS like this. Video game sales typically decline during the Spring and Summer. Plus, look at what has come out recently....None of them were AAA games. Relax.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Haunted said:
i'll go ahead and say that it'll do much better than excitebots, but not well. nothing is doing /well/.
