TheWorthyEdge
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What's the 1 v 1 like?
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Splatoon |OT| Squidstyler
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Im Pretty sure super jumps aren't the main reason because that can be easily done with buttons and a map on screen, I think it's for ink strikes, I can't think of a quicker way to do it or even one that takes less than 5 sec
That is true.
Though has anyone seen ninja squid on shoes or hats yet? I've only seen it on a shirt.
PotionBleue
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Abilities that cannot be sub abilities:
Ninja Squid
Stealth Jump
Ink Resistance Up
Tenacity
Opening Gambit
Last-Ditch Effort
Recon
Cold-Blooded
Haunt
Bomb Sniffer
Comeback
Blak_Status
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But then you'd be super jumping blind right? I mean... the map is pretty big to be displayed as a HUD on the screen. I just feel like the game is primarily about "colors" and you don't want all of that on one screen. But maybe that's just me.
My girlfriend played it with a friend a few days ago and she said she found it surprisingly fun. It kinda seems like a bit of an afterthought but seems like it's okay for what it is.
Razzorn34
Member
I'm not sure where you are getting the latency issues, but I haven't ran into any.
The map rotation mechanic is interesting, but i'll take that over games that let you vote. Everyone always picks the same damn maps.
If there weren't random attributes, you'd have everyone running around with the same damn builds.
PadWarrior
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Tried it this morning before work and I liked it. The range is a it better than I thought. I feel like captain n using it lol
I don't think it's too big it just probably wouldn't be color coded so yeah you probably would be jumping blind not knowing wats painted, just goes to show that there are a bunch of reasons nongamepad play is impossible
I *think* it depends on how long you go after your zone is captured. But no one really knows, it seems.
For instance, if you cap a zone, hold it for 50 seconds, then lose it and it goes un-capped for 30 seconds, and then the other team takes it, you get +30. If you took it back from the "neutral" state without the other team getting it, you don't have any overtime.
Dunno if that's how it actually works, though. Just seems like it.
Starwolf_UK
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Apparently it is shirt only like how Ink Resistance Up is shoe only.
I played a couple of rounds with my girlfriend and it's fun'ish. Gear/Weapons are all pre-sets though you can pick which map you want to play. Runs at 30FPS which bothers me a bit but it's great to try out some high level weapons.
hydragonwarrior
Member
Does squid sliding (dipping into the paint) speed increase if you're going down a hill?
Ah, that makes sense
Really limits your shirt options if you want ninja squid, though
I've found that my best gear looks the worst
You're getting latency issues every time you play with someone on the other side of the world. Either you're getting screwed or they are.
I wouldn't call something so limiting 'interesting'. It works fine on mk8.
Only if you design it so one or two items are a lot better than the rest and only one play style is viable, but it's not so there no need for the randomness.
I could go on with voice chat but it has been done to death. I thought maybe this game wouldn't need it but people are so bad in this game a little direction can't not help.
Imo the focus on colors would make an on screen map that much more appealing. You can glance at the map and easily get an idea of where you stand pretty quickly.
A and B buttons are unused, it would be very cool if we could just press one of those to toggle an onscreen map over top of everything else; you're already looking away, not like you can see the tv while you look at the map anyway). Provided it appears/disappears quickly at least. You could press the dpad to choose between comrades and press another button to super jump to them. Might be a tiny bit slower, but not much worse than looking down at the game pad and readjusting your entire hand position to touch the screen, honestly.
The only thing that I see being at all worse with a pro controller is the aiming. If only the pro controller had gyro support, it would be perfect.
OrbitalBeard
Member
The "binary toggle" perks can only be primary. They aren't available as sub perks
Edit - Damn, I have been beaten:
This gentleman knows what's up.
I do think a lot of the sub weapons, specials, and gear attributes as well as the gamepad usage were designed and balanced around not having voice chat. if they were to add it in it'd be best if they kept it to private lobbies.
SpacePirate Ridley
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So you can cheat on ranked it seems. You can stay with B on a ranked battles of C- if you are really good and necer go out, do you are playing only vs noobs. There is a guy on my lobby using that tactic.
reggieandTFE
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Splat zones sucks. I've seen one match out of 15 go the full time. They're all knockouts.
It's one of the worst feelings in the world to run around in the level trying to paint things, only for the ink to not cover the area at all. Right up there with a messed up computer letting you move the mouse around, but not responding to click events at all.
At least most of the laggy matches like that (for me, so far) either work themselves out or just kill the match so you don't have to suffer.
Had a splat zone go into OT last night mainly because my team got lax with 5 seconds to go and a perfectly timed ink strike.
It would have been nice to know how OT worked too, we ended up splitting the score 49.7 v 49.8 at the end and splitting the rewards even though my team choked.
This is part of the problem with no physical manuals and no easy resources to explain a game.
I enjoyed the ranked mode especially once people started realizing how to play the mode correctly.
It would have been nice to know how OT worked too, we ended up splitting the score 49.7 v 49.8 at the end and splitting the rewards even though my team choked.
This is part of the problem with no physical manuals and no easy resources to explain a game.
I enjoyed the ranked mode especially once people started realizing how to play the mode correctly.
One thing I noticed on the SP versions of Bluefin Depot is that the grates there should make it very hard to completely infiltrate the opposition base, yet still theoretically possible. I think it's a nice mechanic - areas where an attacking force is forced to be exposed.
The catwalks in Kelp Dome should be interesting, too.
Or both when you die simultaneously seemingly without having taken a single hit. The client fills in missing positional info very generously but whenever your'e fighting Japanese players it becomes extremely apparent. This isn't some magical netcode, it's a smokescreen.
Dr. Buni
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This is the most annoying thing about games with voice chat. Certain players wanting to dictate how others should play, which is why Splatoon not having it is a good thing to me.
Don't hate on my technique
No I think they fill up based on the highest person so eventually as the lowers quit to play with their own rank you play with the right ranks, and also if someone rides that wave of lower tiers they'll just get recked when they try to play ranked again later
reggieandTFE
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The matches are generally very uneven and you don't get any progression at all if you lose. There should be 3 or 4 zones per area so there more strategy than hop around like a maniac
Having a messy team or bad performance leads to 0 points and a penalty in rank vs Turf War where even if you lose you're guaranteed some benefit points-wise
It's too Charger-centric right now.
Word, I love discussing strategies, but at the end of the day, I love the controlled chaos that is Splatoon. Ask Eisenhower: "Plans are useless, but planning is indispensible," and I really feel this game embodies that.
Zomba13
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But when you have idiots on your team covering everything but the splat zone maybe they need to be told how to play?
You get a bonus if you overtake a zone and your opponent is low on their countdown while yours hasn't started yet.
Or something like that. IDK how it works.
What map are you angry about exactly? Covering non-splatzone is helpful to build the special meter, which can be used to take back the zone, and is a common practice in saltspray where there's an easy, open area right next to the zone (which is very defensible I might add, making it a very good attack front).
maybe they're charging up their special or inking key positions around the zone
I do this quite frequently
Gentle Rodriguez
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You're assuming they're going to listen, which they won't.
In the end I'm glad I don't have to take the time to mute everyone in my team every match.
Exactly. It's really obvious to me too which is why I don't understand people saying the net code is great. It's not bad at all, it pretty much does as you'd expect but it's not magic.
I also experienced a bit of lag since yesterday, seems weird as it was fine this week-end
for me.
Covering the area just outside the splat zone enables for quick stealth movement for the other team members?
Regardless of the inherent pros and cons of voice chat, matches here are so short and fast paced than I fail to imagine how you would "strategize" with it. Ink surfaces changes too often and people are too mobile
"OMG Dark_something look behin..."*splat*
Also multiple languages, too short time for a good leader to emerge even in the rare instance where not all 4 guys want to give orders, etc
What I imagine is mainly people screaming "take that zone back!" or "paint there" which would basically be repeating the obvious.
When we have friend lobbies and teams, that would be different though. Even if I can't imagine it being a significant benefit compared to other games.
"OMG Dark_something look behin..."*splat*
Also multiple languages, too short time for a good leader to emerge even in the rare instance where not all 4 guys want to give orders, etc
What I imagine is mainly people screaming "take that zone back!" or "paint there" which would basically be repeating the obvious.
When we have friend lobbies and teams, that would be different though. Even if I can't imagine it being a significant benefit compared to other games.
Zomba13
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But the box on the rig down the south? Where there is nothing and no one ever is?
Filling the special bar for inkstrike and/or slowing opponents coming back?
The matches I won had people doing that and it worked
PadWarrior
Member
In-game or real life?