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Devil's Third Review Thread
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PapaEmeritus
Member
Jokes prolly been made.
More like Devil's Turd amirite
More like Devil's Turd amirite
giant_frying_pan
Member
That's what he gets for not calling it Devil's Tenth.
badcrumble
Member
Seems like Itagaki's not exactly doing as well as Kamiya and Itsuno these days. Sad to see.
Pro from Dover
Member
James Scott
Banned
I wonder if Nintendo would've benefited from axing the single player and just making the multiplayer game f2p on Wii U. Probably would've done a lot better especially with it seemingly being the only good thing about it and it being on PC.
I hope Nintendo got a better deal out of this with Valhalla owning the IP and publishing it on PC.
I hope Nintendo got a better deal out of this with Valhalla owning the IP and publishing it on PC.
You have to look at context. At the time no one knew what the quality of the game was other then Valhalla and Nintendo. They're the only ones that had seen it. We had their word to go on and Nintendo fans trust Nintendo's word usually. They wouldn't expect them to back a piece of crap. Now you might not like all the games they release or back but they certainly aren't unplayable, ugly, crap. They're usually very solid games gameplay and graphics. Even the ones people don't like much like Metroid Other M or ones that don't sell a well like Wonderful 101. That's where people were operating from.
The second part is what Nintendo themselves due to the lack of third party support didn't have anything to offer the more hardcore customers that liked playing games like Call of Duty, etc. This showed up and it seemed like it might be a weird alternative, especially since it was finally reveal that Black Ops 3 would not be released and Treyarch was the last hope for a lot of those customers.
Then Nintendo went dark on the game after showing it off at E3 2014. Other then the initial reveal on IGN I found the Treehouse footage interesting and something I'd like to try. When it was a no show at E3 3015 people got worried and wanted to know what was happening. Especially after Europe and Japan got release dates and Nintendo of Americas as usually wouldn't say a damn thing. That is what what caused people to go into a fit about the game and demanding it be released. If it was bad at least people wanted the option of seeing for themselves or having a choice in buying it or not. That really was just another stone toss in the waters along side a LOT of other issues a large section of the customer base has with Nintendo of America.
It was only after all of this that reports of what the game actually was like came out and interest and general concern dried up and I think majority of people no longer care. If there was any cause for the flare up then it was because of Nintendo of Americas lack of communication of any kind when NoE and NCL make announcements. Nintendo as a whole even backing this in the first place. I really doubt the quality of this game wasn't known when they first signed on.
The huge downside of this is not that this game doesn't sell. It's that will people trust Nintendo again going forward when they decide to back a third party game then continue to go dark on it. Their judgement is greatly in question now and there should be concern over how they view their customer base if they thought they could sell this to them, especially the more hardcore customers. This hurts Fatal Frame which is likely a quality game. Especially since they seem to be backing Devil's Third more with how it's being released vs Fatal Frame getting a digital only release.
Jokes prolly been made.
More like Devil's Turd amirite
Nah, this is a totally original joke, just like this arrow stuck in my knee
Bobs Big Boy
Member
Absolutely... going to gauge post-release and see if it's still getting picked up.
yep pretty much. nintendo fans backed the wrong horse real hard.
Or Xseed took a closer look at the quality of the game and backed out of the deal forcing Nintendo of America to do it themselves because they couldn't pawn it off on anyone. That's what the Xseed talk sounded like. That NoA didn't want their name on this for some reason (we know why now) and that was why they weren't talking about or even acknowledging it at times. That's how I interpreted this.
Again people wanting this to release had more to do with what NoA presented initially and the lack of communication in general afterward. It was more so the issue of NoA's actions because no one had a clue about the quality of the game and trusted that Nintendo wasn't putting out a piece of crap. Once the quality was known people stopped caring really quick. Quality I have a hard time believing was found out about only recently.
Nintendo never should have backed this in the first place. It was the wrong and stupid move. That money and effort would have been better spent paying for the development of a Wii U port of Black Ops 3 or even Destiny.
Why they ever decided to back this is a question that must be answered but never will be unless someone high up leaks something.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
And yet I still want to play this game haha.
Enough reviewers have found it so bad it's at least amusing for me to pick it up when it hits bargain bins. Though Nintendo's decision to publish this is inexplicable, and such a waste when there are probably plenty of projects they could have freed from limbo that could have been better.
My review in Italian with a quick English recap
http://www.wiitalia.it/2015/08/26/devils-third-recensione/
"I can't deny having had fun with the story mode, but only accepting what Devil third (unconsciously) is: a trash parody of that developer that has been a guru for so many players around the world"
http://www.wiitalia.it/2015/08/26/devils-third-recensione/
"I can't deny having had fun with the story mode, but only accepting what Devil third (unconsciously) is: a trash parody of that developer that has been a guru for so many players around the world"
Ninja Scooter
Member
Devil's Turd indeed.
Castef
Banned
So, you'll rather play Devil's Third than the fine DmC?
Eurogamer's quote makes me shake my head.
DOA5 and 3RE are good games.
Also, dissidia will be a good game.
On the other hand Devil's third's outcome was predictable, because of the development hell of the game, as well as Itagaki not being the dev he once was.
DOA5 and 3RE are good games.
Also, dissidia will be a good game.
On the other hand Devil's third's outcome was predictable, because of the development hell of the game, as well as Itagaki not being the dev he once was.
Sanctuary
Member
Did anyone actually expect the game to review any better, going by the horrid trailers?
Also, I wonder how much of the game budget was spent on Itagaki's rockstar lifestyle? Since, you know, the game couldn't possibly fail; who cares about how much is actually used for development?!
Also, I wonder how much of the game budget was spent on Itagaki's rockstar lifestyle? Since, you know, the game couldn't possibly fail; who cares about how much is actually used for development?!
RubberJohnny
Banned
Edge Review quote:
"a failure in almost every respect"
"a failure in almost every respect"
MaverickVII
Member
Itagaki is incredibly overrated (see the Eurogamer review quote) so this is not surprising. He's made one good game and that was over a decade ago.
To Far Away Times
Member
Not surprised. This game looked horrible in the trailers.
Makes me wonder if Itagaki even had much to do with Ninja Gaiden and DOA. That's a huge drop in quality.
Makes me wonder if Itagaki even had much to do with Ninja Gaiden and DOA. That's a huge drop in quality.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Nope.
XSeed was super not happy with Nintendo taking back publishing. This likely harmed their relationship long term, so we're even less likely to get situations where Nintendo passes on something and XSeed picks it up.
The DOA series that he directed is really good, so is Ninja Gaiden. Yeah they are only two franchises, but let's not do revisionist history and say they weren't quality entertainment
Windom Earle
Member
I want to play this for shits and giggles.
ShogunDarius
Member
really?
Which one? Super Tecmo Bowl? DOA1? DOA2? DOA3? DOA4? DOAX? DOAX2? Ninja Gaiden? Ninja Gaiden 2? Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword?
Which was the "one good game"?
Pro from Dover
Member
So if it is true that XSeed was going to publish it, why would Nintendo take it back? Some have been saying because of fan backlash, but I think it's not so much fan backlash as what caused fan backlash: Loose lips. XSeed comes across as a company that can't keep a secret then.
I want to believe something different then like conclusion jumping.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
People got mad that NoA didn't localise this instead of Rhythm Heaven 3DS. SMH
MaverickVII
Member
DOA is okay but the best entry in the series is the one he had no involvement with. Ninja Gaiden 2 was also decent but I wouldn't call it great by any means, unlike the first title.
To his credit, Ninja Gaiden/Ninja Gaiden Black was fantastic.
Sanctuary
Member
Destined to be remembered as the new Superman 64 or E.T..
This all happened before Pranger opened his mouth
I highly doubt Pranger had anything to do with the DT leak.
But he was involved in DOA2U....
privitsan02
Member
I doubt anyone would actually go out of their way to purchase this over Metal Gear Solid V, Tearaway Unfolded, Mad Max, Until Dawn, Gears of War Remastered or a ton of Steam games that are on sale. Even if you only own a Wii U, (why?) that would be a disservice to gaming.
Best wishes.
Best wishes.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I don't know from which side this leaked. But it was known at E3 that XSeed was publishing it and NDAs were involved.
I'd guess they weren't coming out and saying so because of an intended marketing plan.
I'd guess they weren't coming out and saying so because of an intended marketing plan.
Joseph Merrick
Member
really looking forward to playing it :O~
They also helped out alot in Hyrule Warriors which turned out to be the best Mousou game ever made. Then there's the Toukiden series which have also been very good.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Even if you discount everything else, DOA5 was a really good DOA game.
That alone shows me there's talent left at Team Ninja. They just need to find the best way to bring that out.
That alone shows me there's talent left at Team Ninja. They just need to find the best way to bring that out.
Sumio Mondo
Member
And this gets physical release and Fatal Frame V doesn't in North America? That's messed up. I will still play this somewhere down the line, but man, they chose the wrong game to publish, definitely.
Nope, a 0/10 or 1/10 should be reserved for games that don't work.
3/10 should be reserved for a bad game that's functional.
Hyrule warriors, Toukiden, NG3RE, DOA5, Dissidia versus NG3 and that Metroid game.
I'd say that their track record has produced more good games than not.