Xamtheking
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Nin1000 wins the I Can't Read Award, calling it right now
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Final Fantasy [Mafia] |OT| Living in a Materia World, and I am a Materia Girl
- Thread starter ScraftyDevil
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LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I have no idea why people do this, but the cop in NX did this.
So, you think there are no ordinary roles?
You think it's possible there are two scum roleblockers? Really?
And you're thinking that a town roleblocker blocked a scum investigator?
Ok, so why should we vote him out if there is a possibility of there being switchers?
nin channeling MGS Hyper and Heist Ourobolus in here, I see
Xamtheking
Member
Also, inb4 "its Wednesday why are you in the thread" conspiracies, going to board a plane in 15 minutes
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
On a train...
Xamtheking
Member
Yeeny is best conductor
Then it's stupid and confusing. The only way I can see it being a town gambit is if Hyper is trying to draw a mafia kill. But if so he should have come clean today, or else I'm chasing a dead lead.
No, I said 'most' roles are probably PRs, just like in the HP game. Scrafty herself said that ordinary roles are job titles, so they must exist in the game. However she also gave this game an 8 on the Crab scale, meaning role madness.
Ok, slow down. Two scum roleblockers is not outside the realm of possibility if this is indeed a role madness game. Additionally, if I remember correctly, the first mafia game had two mafia RB-ers.
I'm not saying that Hyper is a scum investigator. I'm saying he's Chaos, and could very well be lying about being roleblocked. It gives us a 'reason' why he is still alive, despite claiming the most dangerous role to the Chaos team.
I said this because I am not sure if Hyper will actually get voted out today. But if he isn't, and if he keeps remaining alive, then we need to lynch him, especially if he never delivers results. It's just super suspect. I mentioned the possibility of switchers in case I'm wrong about Hyper and he is indeed cosmos.
I want to vote him out today because he is currently my top chaos. I just don't see how his gambit helped town.
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I'm working on that reads list, luckily we have an extra day but I won't be able to do it tomorrow or the day after...Expect it some time tonight!
You think it's possible there are two scum roleblockers? Really?
And you're thinking that a town roleblocker blocked a scum investigator?
Ok, so why should we vote him out if there is a possibility of there being switchers?
Ugh...edited.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Swamped, you are scum.
Aside from your constant pushing on Hyper, who has provided very strong evidence to his being an investigator through his roleclaim which can easily be refuted (such is the nature of these named role games), you seem to be intentionally or unintentionally implying that you have a role.
I had no thoughts one way or the other on whether this game was a role madness game or not; you just brought it up pretty randomly and eager to push that point. There are a few problems with this approach.
First, it would be a statement someone who has a role would make, because of the roles they've seen (the 6 roleclaims + their own role), they've all been PRs. You're only using Scrafty's claim that there are ordinary roles in the game as a point of reference on that.
However, and perhaps more alarming if you follow that logic, you make these statements without thinking of the implications. A person with an important PR would be thinking more carefully about what information they broadcast. If someone with a role makes a statement that alludes to them having a PR, like you have been doing, they know that unless they announce themselves as having an innocuous role, they will be killed during the night phase. There is only one reason why you would be so careless, and it's because you know you're protected from being killed - because you are mafia.
There's also the point that you're willing to throw Hyper under the bus, despite his utility. If he's not able to use his investigation, he can at least keep the RB busy for another turn or two. A willingness to sacrifice PRs, or even just townies, is a big scum tell.
VOTE: Swamped
Aside from your constant pushing on Hyper, who has provided very strong evidence to his being an investigator through his roleclaim which can easily be refuted (such is the nature of these named role games), you seem to be intentionally or unintentionally implying that you have a role.
I had no thoughts one way or the other on whether this game was a role madness game or not; you just brought it up pretty randomly and eager to push that point. There are a few problems with this approach.
First, it would be a statement someone who has a role would make, because of the roles they've seen (the 6 roleclaims + their own role), they've all been PRs. You're only using Scrafty's claim that there are ordinary roles in the game as a point of reference on that.
However, and perhaps more alarming if you follow that logic, you make these statements without thinking of the implications. A person with an important PR would be thinking more carefully about what information they broadcast. If someone with a role makes a statement that alludes to them having a PR, like you have been doing, they know that unless they announce themselves as having an innocuous role, they will be killed during the night phase. There is only one reason why you would be so careless, and it's because you know you're protected from being killed - because you are mafia.
There's also the point that you're willing to throw Hyper under the bus, despite his utility. If he's not able to use his investigation, he can at least keep the RB busy for another turn or two. A willingness to sacrifice PRs, or even just townies, is a big scum tell.
VOTE: Swamped
Launchpad, you are better than this. Think . You are reading too much into my PR statements.
If I'm getting lynched today (and it's possible given that Darryl has the double vote and is also suspicous of me), it's not the end of the world. The way people have been interacting with me should be pretty telling. But i promise to post my reads list this day phase at the very least.
If I'm getting lynched today (and it's possible given that Darryl has the double vote and is also suspicous of me), it's not the end of the world. The way people have been interacting with me should be pretty telling. But i promise to post my reads list this day phase at the very least.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Hyperactivity
Banned
Awake now
I'll be honest with you, I had 0 idea as to how quickly the bandwagon was going to turn around on me. I was expecting to draw a couple of the votes, get scum off my back as a scummy player they could easily get lynched, etc. etc. It was a vote to prove a point, not to self-lynch
I'm questioning how exactly you know this. You and a couple other players have called this role madness, but I've seen nothing official to confirm or even hint towards this. I might be wrong, maybe Scrafty said this on the sign up sheet or something, but I personally haven't seen anything
Already addressed this, but yeah, you covered this yourself
The specific words I used was "Possible pr".
A. Xam had not been there to defend himself, as he indicated in the thread
B. I was sure he had a named role.
Of course, that means pr and scum, and while I gave Xam brownie points for seemingly trying to improve, another reason I was more supportive on a lynch on some of the other inactives/fluffy posters, I also didn't want to develop a huge blind spot in my defense of him.
I'm gonna have to take issue with some of the logic at display here. If Scrafty was smart (which she is XD), she would have provided safe fake claims to scum, and, learning from the mistakes of the mods before her, given scum main characters to work with. There's 0 indication that Zidane or Squall being claimed necessarily means these two are more likely town.
I'll be honest with you, I had 0 idea as to how quickly the bandwagon was going to turn around on me. I was expecting to draw a couple of the votes, get scum off my back as a scummy player they could easily get lynched, etc. etc. It was a vote to prove a point, not to self-lynch
I'm questioning how exactly you know this. You and a couple other players have called this role madness, but I've seen nothing official to confirm or even hint towards this. I might be wrong, maybe Scrafty said this on the sign up sheet or something, but I personally haven't seen anything
Already addressed this, but yeah, you covered this yourself
The specific words I used was "Possible pr".
A. Xam had not been there to defend himself, as he indicated in the thread
B. I was sure he had a named role.
Of course, that means pr and scum, and while I gave Xam brownie points for seemingly trying to improve, another reason I was more supportive on a lynch on some of the other inactives/fluffy posters, I also didn't want to develop a huge blind spot in my defense of him.
I'm gonna have to take issue with some of the logic at display here. If Scrafty was smart (which she is XD), she would have provided safe fake claims to scum, and, learning from the mistakes of the mods before her, given scum main characters to work with. There's 0 indication that Zidane or Squall being claimed necessarily means these two are more likely town.
Meh, i just don't really feel like fighting. But i would like the chance to look at some other players. I don't want to get fixated on one person and then they turn out to be Cosmos, would tell us hardly anything lol. Should have more time tonight or tomorrow morning!
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
There's a reason why I believe this logic holds in spite of that, but I can't reveal what it is right now.
I swear Scrafty said this was an 8 on the Crab scale. I distinctly remember thinking that the Heist and FF games were very different from each other, yet recruiting at the same time. I thought it was funny.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Iirc, this was a ? on the crab scale
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
That means we're in a bastard game, all hail the death Miller!!!
Can some one post a vote count, for some reason the tool isn't working for me.
Royal said the tol is not working atm and we should count the old faishon way.
The tool is likely going to be down for another week or two - Flush said he was having issues getting into it since he's off on holiday.
Tool won't be working until after the holidays, someone needs to be physically on location and Flush is away.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Wait, guys I don't understand, is the tool down?
VOTE: nin1000
VOTE: nin1000
Xamtheking
Member
Tool is down
Also, my plane had wifi, so I can be in here for a few hours
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Hyperactivity
Banned
Making a post with vote count and links, hold out for a bit XD
ScraftyDevil
Banned
It was an 8 at one point but it's more balanced now. Ouro says he'd give it about a 6 in its current state, possibly a 7.
I'll get working on a vote count now, btw. Sorry that it's coming so late; I was out for most of yesterday.
I am The Looks ! Ask Ouro,Retro,Burb,Mike,Scrafty or Yeeny
Xamtheking
Member
[Highlight ]SUE: Cabot
Hyperactivity
Banned
Darryl (1):
Zippedpinhead (1008)
Hyperactivity (2):
Pop-O-Matic (1032)
LaunchpadMcQ (1069) (1096)
Swamped (1139)
nin1000 (1140) (1147)
Pop-O-Matic (0):
Hyperactivity (1033) (1048)
Blargonaut (0):
Hyperactivity (1048) (1081)
LaunchpadMcQ (2)
Hyperactivity (1081)
TheAwesomePossum (1102)
TheAwesomePossum (0):
LaunchpadMcQ (1100) (1137)
nin1000 (1103) (1115)
Xamtheking (1):
Blargonaut (1126)
Seath (0):
LaunchpadMcQ (1137) (1159)
nin1000 (2):
TL21xx (1138)
Terrabyte20xx (1172)
Swamped(1):
LaunchpadMcQ (1159)
Zippedpinhead (1008)
Hyperactivity (2):
Pop-O-Matic (1032)
Swamped (1139)
Pop-O-Matic (0):
Blargonaut (0):
LaunchpadMcQ (2)
Hyperactivity (1081)
TheAwesomePossum (1102)
TheAwesomePossum (0):
Xamtheking (1):
Blargonaut (1126)
Seath (0):
nin1000 (2):
TL21xx (1138)
Terrabyte20xx (1172)
Swamped(1):
LaunchpadMcQ (1159)
Hyperactivity
Banned
So umm, just use that post as a basis for future post counts, to make everyone's lives easier
on that note
UNVOTE
on that note
UNVOTE
Hyperactivity
Banned
oh goody.
Xam, thoughts on anything? On me? My roleblock? Swamped? nin1000? etc. Anything?
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but we probably have an official town consensus on this, Xam can we get an official statement on whether you have an ascetic type role (all night actions besides kills fail when performed on you)
Blargonaut
Banned
BLARGONAUT USED PHOENIX DOWN
AND THIS DISCUSSION IS IS SO HEALTHY
PROVE THAT, UH, DIETS WORK
PEOPLE.
AND THIS DISCUSSION IS IS SO HEALTHY
PROVE THAT, UH, DIETS WORK
PEOPLE.
Blargonaut
Banned
My favorite.
BUT BUT B BUT IF YOU, UH, TRANSLATE THAT INTO A, UH THE 3D-SCAPE YOU UH YOU UH
IT'S NOT OVER
AND GET OUT
Blargonaut
Banned
Xamtheking
Member
I do not have an ascetic(the fuck does that mean in English) type role.
Blargonaut
Banned
UNVOTE: XAMTHEKING
VOTE: LAUNCHPADMCQ
VOTE: LAUNCHPADMCQ
Ascetic - a person who practices severe self-discipline and abstention.
Ascetic - Not Sorian
Nor Ouro.
Hyperactivity
Banned
nor Cabot
Xamtheking
Member
Let's not turn this thread into Wereboot post Day 5
Hyperactivity
Banned
Xamtheking
Member
I don't have any sort of passive or active ability to negate actions targeted against me or circumvent them in any way, shape, or form.
That is my final answer, Your Honor.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Xamtheking
Member
Indifferent on your RB. I think nin might be a nervous Neutral, and I am getting decent town vibes from both swamped and you.
Xamtheking
Member
I am also now 90% sure Blarg's Pheonix Downs mean something