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benzy · Nov 28, 2016

dark10x said:
Nope. Same as Judgement demo even (1.02 is)

High resolution mode is as jerky as ever.

Make special note and emphasis on the frame pacing issues in your DF analysis, and I'll bombard FFXV social media about it. I'm pretty sure they'll fix it.

Btw, isn't framepacing just a bug not related to limited performance power? Weird there's varying levels of frame pacing issues on PS4 modes, and the XBO version completely lacks it.

Napalm_Frank · Nov 28, 2016

86 currently on MC? Oh fuck, I have avatar bet on this. Me betting 85 or lower naturally.

C'mon, somebody throw dat 5/10 in there!

DrBretto · Nov 28, 2016

Steve Youngblood said:
Yeah. I was thinking that earlier. We'll see where the dust settles, but my kneejerk reaction to the metascore earlier was that if you're looking for reviews drama, this is about as boring as it gets. A perfectly respectable score by today's standards that is neither so good that it puts the haters in their place nor low enough to justify meltdowns that it's being reviewed too harshly.

Honestly, it's kind of refreshing. I was expecting the review thread to be a battleground, but it's kind of nice that its drama free. We can all live with 86.

royox · Nov 28, 2016

My friends are already playing it.
Webpages are giving reviews.
I saw a commercial on TV.
And I still can't believe this is really happening. Tomorrow will be a legendary day.

DirgeExtinction · Nov 28, 2016

Really good scores so far.

LordKano · Nov 28, 2016

Mercador said:
Gamekult is clickbait. They often put low scores to AAA. Just to put some perspective.

Stop with that bullshit please. They're not obliged to put high scores to AAA for whatever stupid reason.

Dynasty8 · Nov 28, 2016

Lunafreya Nox Fleuret said:
I really doubt the writing is bad as people say it is.

It is.

I am 30+ hours in. Not gonna be biased...I absolutely love this game, but whoever was in charge of how to tell this story needs to seriously get fired. As fucked up as that sounds, I mean it 100%.

Square hasn't told a good story in ages.

notaskwid · Nov 28, 2016

I'll go pro high quality mode, had no problem with in in JD.

Kenzodielocke · Nov 28, 2016

I am scoring this game with 1/10 because of the frame pacing.

daftstar · Nov 28, 2016

IGN posted a PS4 and PS4 Pro comparison vid showing the 4K and High-Framerate mode.

I thought the High-Framerate mode was coming later in a mid-December patch?

Vital Tundra · Nov 28, 2016

Expected. A good ARPG. I honestly expect KH3 to do better, though.

nelsonroyale · Nov 28, 2016

Elios83 said:
Western developers have far surpassed japanese developers in their ability to make AAA games for example.

FFXV is reviewing really well btw.
The goalposts moving by people expecting a disaster with lower than 80 metacritic and now turning the situation into "But no 90+ like in the nineties!!" or "Metacritic is useless" instead of eating crow is both hilarious but sadly expected.

Yeah, how many japanese games can now compete technically? FFXV obviously can, the new Yakuza also looks really nice overall...Some of the Nintendo devs can but they are obviously on weaker hardware. Gravity Rush 2 looks awesome visually as well.

BY2K · Nov 28, 2016

I love how both Metacritic and OpenCritic don't include the 6/10 review from Gamekult.

Nerokis · Nov 28, 2016

People realize FFXII came out in 2006, right? Since then, FF has been mismanaged to hell and back: FFXIII was a poor effort, and proceeded to become a subseries that would define the franchise's presence on last generation consoles; FFXIV ended up becoming an incredible success story, but not before being a complete disaster; Versus XIII was perpetually in "please be excited" territory; and then you had things like All the Bravest further diminishing the brand.

In addition, we've had games like Witcher 3 come out, and JRPGs have diminished overall.

So this "whelp, what happened to the FF brand?" sentiment strikes me as quite strange. It's been awhile since FF has been so prestigious, and the competition has both changed and become more intense. The point that FFXV failed to be another FFVII is well taken, and seems to be true enough, but that's a very narrow standard to judge it by.

The franchise has been struggling to adapt, has been losing relevance, for around a decade. FFXV seems to represent a step forward, and establishes a solid foundation to build on. Personally, I would be pretty happy with that.

CaviarMeths · Nov 28, 2016

A-One said:
Square hasn't told a good story in ages.

Heavensward came out in 2015.

KingdomHeartsFan · Nov 28, 2016

Holundrian said:
Somehow I'm not talking about the reviews? Lul dude. That's just three posts of a few of me trying. Maybe read the thread next time before throwing stones.

I mean admittingly I gave up after a while when the score jerking was too much and did troll answers/comments, but it's not like you're posts are particularly helping the discussion either.

I wasn't saying you specifically were derailing the thread, I was saying to the people that are saying metacritic doesn't matter, but you choose to respond. Anyway your right so Ill just end things here.

Bladenic · Nov 28, 2016

How much has the story suffered from the multimedia expansion attempt by Square? Or are the issues insular to the game?

Vital Tundra · Nov 28, 2016

CaviarMeths said:
Heavensward came out in 2015.

Boom

Charamiwa · Nov 28, 2016

The Gamekult guy is saying pretty much the same things everybody else is saying, he just feel more strongly about the low points of the game. That's all there is to it, calling him a troll or the website clickbait is ridiculous.

If you can't handle the fact that Gamekult is generally less forgiving than most review sites, just ignore it.

DrBretto · Nov 28, 2016

BY2K said:
I love how both Metacritic and OpenCritic don't include the 6/10 review from Gamekult.

That's because they have standards

Already Torn · Nov 28, 2016

Reviews seem more positive than the scores suggest when you read them.

Generalpsyduck · Nov 28, 2016

Does it use denuvo?

WordsintheWater · Nov 28, 2016

Bladenic said:
How much has the story suffered from the multimedia expansion attempt by Square? Or are the issues insular to the game?

I would say a lot. Everyone who plays it will experience that feeling. As of now I hope it gets better as it goes on.

orthodoxy1095 · Nov 28, 2016

Mercador said:
Gamekult is clickbait. They often put low scores to AAA. Just to put some perspective.

Based on what?

Last gen they loved games like Batman, RDR, Dead Space, The Witcher 2, Skyward Sword, Skyrim, Deus Ex, FIFA and Uncharted. They're just a harsher outlet than most.

Orayn · Nov 28, 2016

dark10x said:
It's already patched for Pro, really.

I fear that the update might be more harmful than good.

Imagine this - they don't fix frame pacing issue in the high-res mode, right? Very likely that it won't be corrected, I fear.

...but now, the "lite" mode uses an uncapped frame-rate that struggles to actually hit 60fps leaving you with ~45-50fps instead.

So it would be unsteady all around.

I hope that does NOT happen but it is a realistic possibility.

Nope. Same as Judgement demo even (1.02 is)

High resolution mode is as jerky as ever.

Have you guys reached out to S-E about frame pacing at all?

Hoping for another Destiny or Diablo 3 Ultimate Evil scenario if it gets to the right people.

DrBretto · Nov 28, 2016

orthodoxy1095 said:
Based on what?

Last gen they loved games like Batman, RDR, Dead Space, The Witcher 2, Skyward Sword, Skyrim, Deus Ex, FIFA and Uncharted. They're just a harsher outlet than most.

A review is more than a score. Read the review, and you'll see why no one is taking it seriously.

There's plenty of other data out there to get a solid idea of the game.

sdornan · Nov 28, 2016

This is almost exactly the score I expected.

Ray Down · Nov 28, 2016

Generalpsyduck said:
Does it use denuvo?

It ain't on PC yet.

Psycho_Mantis · Nov 28, 2016

Ganon Dragmire said:
Cheers Prince.

You have arrived.

notaskwid · Nov 28, 2016

LordKano said:
Stop with that bullshit please. They're not obliged to put high scores to AAA for whatever stupid reason.

No, but let's not act like they aren't a regular outlier

On average, this publication grades 14.7 points lower than other critics. (0-100 point scale

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamekult

Charamiwa · Nov 28, 2016

BY2K said:
I love how both Metacritic and OpenCritic don't include the 6/10 review from Gamekult.

I have no idea why Gameblog is the only french website on Metacritic. Jeuxvideo.com gets way more clicks and is much more popular overall.

User 479360 · Nov 28, 2016

I didn't want it, because I'd stopped playing long JRPGs and haven't played much FF in years, but now I do. I wish the price had dropped in Canada.

Do any of the reviews say how long it is?

JBwB · Nov 28, 2016

Generalpsyduck said:
Does it use denuvo?

It's not out on PC.

Expect the port to be released a year from now.

orthodoxy1095 · Nov 28, 2016

A-One said:
Square hasn't told a good story in ages.

Factually wrong.

Kalentan · Nov 28, 2016

CaviarMeths said:
Heavensward came out in 2015.

No lies detected here.

sanstesy · Nov 28, 2016

notaskwid said:
No, but let's not act like they aren't a regular outlier

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamekult

And this is a bad thing how?

Raven117 · Nov 28, 2016

A-One said:
Square hasn't told a good story in ages.

FFXIV:ARR is actually pretty good...with Heavensword...

But as a console game..yeah, you are right.

Ray Down · Nov 28, 2016

OCDChewie said:
I didn't want it, because I'd stopped playing long JRPGs and haven't played much FF in years, but now I do. I wish the price had dropped in Canada.

Do any of the reviews say how long it is?

Kotaku/Jason got through the main story in 25 hours and alot (I think all) in about 55.

orthodoxy1095 · Nov 28, 2016

notaskwid said:
No, but let's not act like they aren't a regular outlier

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamekult

When the complaint is so often that our reviewers are too lenient with shitty games or shitty practices, I don't see the problem with being a deviation or two off the average.

They have a different standard, there's nothing wrong with that.

styl3s · Nov 28, 2016

dark10x said:
It's already patched for Pro, really.

I fear that the update might be more harmful than good.

Imagine this - they don't fix frame pacing issue in the high-res mode, right? Very likely that it won't be corrected, I fear.

...but now, the "lite" mode uses an uncapped frame-rate that struggles to actually hit 60fps leaving you with ~45-50fps instead.

So it would be unsteady all around.

I hope that does NOT happen but it is a realistic possibility.

Nope. Same as Judgement demo even (1.02 is)

High resolution mode is as jerky as ever.

So since I have a pro and 4K tv I am fucked with the shittier version? Is there any way to not play it in high resolution mode on pro?

Spman2099 · Nov 28, 2016

Considering how well XIII reviewed, I am still super hesitant. I will approach this game with extreme trepidation.

LordKano · Nov 28, 2016

DrBretto said:
A review is more than a score. Read the review, and you'll see why no one is taking it seriously.

There's plenty of other data out there to get a solid idea of the game.

Please, tell me what's wrong in it. Assuming you can read it.

Xaero Gravity · Nov 28, 2016

Imp the Dimp said:
Combat is mind-bogglingly good. Probably the second best open world RPG combat after Dragon's Dogma. Fighing is so, so fun. Y'all are in for a treat.

I've seen that said a lot and it's the last thing I expected based on my time with the demo. So damn excited for tomorrow

JeffZero · Nov 28, 2016

General reminder that literally every last one of us was 10 years younger when this game's original iteration was announced; no one is special for this <_<;;

dark10x · Nov 28, 2016

styl3s said:
So since I have a pro and 4K tv I am fucked with the shittier version? Is there any way to not play it in high resolution mode on pro?

Of course. It's right in the options menu. You can choose between "Lite" or "High"

Charamiwa · Nov 28, 2016

DrBretto said:
That's because they have standards

But it's a great website. Do you guys just say this because they score lower than most? They have great content and experienced writers. I would compare it to Giantbomb or something, they're relevant.

Astral Dog · Nov 28, 2016

OCDChewie said:
I didn't want it, because I'd stopped playing long JRPGs and haven't played much FF in years, but now I do. I wish the price had dropped in Canada.

Do any of the reviews say how long it is?

25 to 30 hours for the main quest

Generalpsyduck · Nov 28, 2016

Never mind haha i don't know why I thought it was on pc.

Holundrian · Nov 28, 2016

LordKano said:
Please, tell me what's wrong in it. Assuming you can read it.

My guess "Je ne sais pas" :-x

LordKano · Nov 28, 2016

notaskwid said:
No, but let's not act like they aren't a regular outlier

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamekult

And ? As I said, they are harsher than the usual. What's the problem then ? Once you get that a 6/10 isn't a bad score for Gamekult (they call it a "honest" score), then everything is fine.

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