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cvxfreak · Dec 30, 2010

By the way, the MC site has numbers for 11 - 20 if anyone wants to check them out.

Grimmy · Dec 30, 2010

Poor Shining Hearts - from 6 to 31 :lol

jeremy1456 · Dec 30, 2010

Wow, PS3 is once again pulling down some Gamecube, albeit, holiday numbers.

onken · Dec 30, 2010

11 DS Mario Vs Donkey Kong 67,852
12 Wii Kirby's Epic Yarn 65,587
13 Wii Wii Sports Resort (M+ bundle) 61,942
14 PS3 Gundam Musou 3 59,559
15 DS Super Fossil Fighters 56,883
16 Wii New Super Mario Bros. Wii 45,344
17 Wii Taiko Drum Master 3
18 Wii Mario Kart Wii 39,785
19 Wii Super Mario All-stars 37,647
20 DS Tamagotchi Narikiri Challenge 33,144

_Alkaline_ · Dec 30, 2010

What's Kirby's LTD? Around 500K? Nice to see it performing well given it's rather lackluster sales in the US.

onken · Dec 30, 2010

_Alkaline_ said:
What's Kirby's LTD? Around 500K? Nice to see it performing well given it's rather lackluster sales in the US.

About 360k inc. this week.

Busaiku · Dec 30, 2010

_Alkaline_ said:
Nice to see it performing well given it's rather lackluster sales in the US.

Its debut month was similar to Super Star Ultra.
I imagine it could do similar numbers as well.

king zell · Dec 30, 2010

more "The Last Story" hype in Japan

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/17757

_Alkaline_ · Dec 30, 2010

onken said:
About 360k inc. this week.

Ohhh, so not quite as good as I imagined. Still not horrible though.

Ydahs · Dec 30, 2010

I would have thought the Kirby and Donkey Kong LTD would have been the other way around. Great to see Donkey Kong performing and hopefully it won't be another 13(?) years before we receive another DKC.

Also, how does DKCR compare to Jungle Beat's LTD?

confuziz · Dec 30, 2010

Ydahs said:
I would have thought the Kirby and Donkey Kong LTD would have been the other way around. Great to see Donkey Kong performing and hopefully it won't be another 13(?) years before we receive another DKC.

Also, how does DKCR compare to Jungle Beat's LTD?

Jungle beat's LTD is around 240k if I remember correctly..

Kurosaki Ichigo · Dec 30, 2010

About our prediction game, we have finished this year with the week this thread covers, so I'm thinking on doing some overall rankings. Since I didn't do anything for 2009 I think I'm doing a 2009 ranking, a 2010 ranking, and an overall ranking covering both. Although we usually just count victories this time I'm counting medals (gold, silver, bronze) so there's more variation, olympics style ranking of going by number of gold medals, then silver ones, then bronze ones. But I haven't done it yet so I'd like to hear some suggestions (if there are) that you would like to see so I can try to include them if feasible.

Kenka · Dec 30, 2010

onken said:
11 DS Mario Vs Donkey Kong 67,852
12 Wii Kirby's Epic Yarn 65,587
13 Wii Wii Sports Resort (M+ bundle) 61,942
14 PS3 Gundam Musou 3 59,559
15 DS Super Fossil Fighters 56,883
16 Wii New Super Mario Bros. Wii 45,344
17 Wii Taiko Drum Master 3
18 Wii Mario Kart Wii 39,785
19 Wii Super Mario All-stars 37,647
20 DS Tamagotchi Narikiri Challenge 33,144

And we know that NSMB DS sold about 27'000 from the previous thread. It missed the top 20, but not by much. Amazing. And no Christmas bump for Super Mario All-Stars.

Frillen · Dec 30, 2010

perfectchaos007 said:
PSP was the best selling console of 2010 in Japan. That is unless the week of 12/27/10-1/02/11 counts and DS sells about 20,000 more than PSP

The week we're in now is going to count as a 2010 week, at least according to media-create and Chris. So the PSP vs. DS battle is still not over.

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2010

01. / 01. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) {2010.12.01} - 404.175 / 3.565.976 (-30%)
02. / 00. [PSP] AKB1/48: If I loved an Idol (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.23} - 236.282 /
03. / 04. [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo) {2010.12.09} - 214.518 / 530.818 (+40%)
04. / 05. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} - 164.950 / 4.909.161 (+43%)
05. / 07. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} - 162.135 / 1.573.959 (+74%)
06. / 00. [PSP] The 3rd Birthday (Square Enix) {2010.12.22} - 140.476 /
07. / 08. [WII] Mario Sports Mix (Nintendo) {2010.11.25} - 136.295 / 435.829 (+56%)
08. / 03. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! The Ogre (Level 5) {2010.12.16} - 117.504 / 293.108 (-33%)
09. / 09. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 84.115 / 328.992 (+13%)
10. / 13. [NDS] Magician's Quest: The Merchants Store of Sorcery (Konami) {2010.11.11} - 74.255 / 249.450 (+95%)
11. / 10. [NDS] Mario Vs. Donkey Kong: Miniland Mayhem (Nintendo) {2010.12.02} - 67.852 / 231.781 (+24%)
12. / 11. [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) {2010.10.14} - 65.587 / 370.187 (+41%)
13. / 14. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Remote Plus) (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} - 61.942 / 185.290 (+66%)
14. / 02. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 3 (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.16} - 59.559 / 245.467 (-68%)
15. / 12. [NDS] Super Fossil Fighters (Nintendo) {2010.11.18} - 56.883 / 218.631 (+38%)
16. / 16. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} - 45.344 / 4.151.363 (+65%)
17. / 18. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 3 (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02} - 44.661 / 122.170 (+66%)
18. / 20. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} - 39.785 / 3.084.210 (+76%)
19. / 15. [WII] Super Mario All-Stars (Nintendo) {2010.10.21} - 37.647 / 780.508 (+26%)
20. / 21. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Narikiri Challenge (Bandai Namco) {2010.11.11} - 33.144 /

21. / 25. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) {2009.06.18}
22. / 24. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25}
23. / 27. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) {2009.10.01}
24. / 32. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco) {2010.07.01}
25. / 23. [NDS] A Penguin's Troubles: The World (Konami) {2010.12.02}
26. / 28. [NDS] Momotaro Railway: World (Hudson) {2010.12.02}
27. / 30. [NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 13 (Konami) {2010.11.25}
28. / 38. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco) {2010.09.09}
29. / 00. [360] Cyber Troopers Virtual-On Force (Sega) {2010.12.22}
30. / 31. [NDS] More! Stitch! DS Scribble Battle Through Rhythm DS (Disney Interactive) {2010.11.18}
31. / 06. [PSP] Shining Hearts (Sega) {2010.12.16}
32. / 29. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) {2010.05.27}
33. / 36. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo) {2010.06.19}
34. / 37. [NDS] Crayon Shin-Chan: Shokkugan! Densetsu o Yobu Omake Daiketsusen!! (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02}
35. / 34. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.11.18}
36. / 26. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) {2010.11.25}
37. / 22. [PS3] Tales of Graces F (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02}
38. / 43. [NDS] Minna to Kimi no Piramekino! (Bandai Namco) {2010.11.25}
39. / 41. [WII] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes Os (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02}
40. / 48. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005.12.08}
41. / 00. [PSP] Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 4: Aizouban (Koei Tecmo) {2010.12.22}
42. / 44. [NDS] Heart Catch PreCure! Oshare Collection (Bandai Namco) {2010.08.05}
43. / 19. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Dubbed Edition) (Square Enix) {2010.12.16}
44. / 45. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.10.28}
45. / 00. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village (Capcom) {2010.08.26}
46. / 00. [PSP] Starry Sky: In Autumn Portable (Asgard) {2010.12.22}
47. / 49. [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii Super DX: Hitori de Minna de Utai Houdai! (Hudson) {2010.12.09}
48. / 17. [PS3] Castlevania: Lord of Shadow (Konami) {2010.12.16}
49. / 00. [NDS] Gokujou!! Mecha Mote Iinchou: MM My Best Friend! (Konami) {2010.11.25}
50. / 46. [PSP] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes Os (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02}

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {2010.12.20} - 3.505.441 / 63.616.785 (+24%)

NDS - 21
WII - 13
PSP - 9
PS3 - 6
360 - 1
PS2 - 0

HARDWARE

Code:

_____________________________________________________________________________________            
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |        YTD |   Last YTD |         LTD |            
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------            
|  NDS  |   191.583 |   148.177 |   183.347 |  2.772.043 |  3.765.844 |  32.051.123 |      
|  PSP  |   183.071 |   164.507 |    82.454 |  2.798.638 |  2.138.178 |  16.541.726 |      
|  WII  |   131.761 |    99.681 |   191.915 |  1.597.131 |  1.747.238 |  11.202.330 |      
|  PS3  |    64.228 |    49.515 |   237.086 |  1.509.700 |  1.654.013 |   6.011.067 |      
|  360  |     5.298 |     3.726 |     8.965 |    207.118 |    366.868 |   1.416.790 |      
|  PS2  |     2.604 |     2.188 |     2.982 |     83.439 |    202.878 |  21.693.616 |      
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------            
|  SUM  |   578.545 |   467.794 |   706.749 |  8.968.069 |  9.875.019 |  88.916.652 |      
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------            
| DSiLL |    92.329 |    72.146 |    75.241 |  1.392.878 |    354.834 |   1.899.785 |      
|  DSi  |    93.464 |    71.804 |    95.227 |  1.156.743 |  2.901.142 |   5.495.689 |      
|  DSL  |     5.790 |     4.227 |    12.879 |    222.422 |    509.868 |  18.070.178 |      
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------            
|  PSP  |   177.691 |   162.558 |    79.194 |  2.723.052 |  2.070.518 |  16.390.385 |      
| PSPgo |     5.380 |     1.949 |     3.260 |     75.586 |     67.660 |     151.341 |      
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rolf NB · Dec 30, 2010

Whoah, PS3 hardware not keeping up at all with the year-end surge. Sales in week 51 even lower than its own in last year's week 50 (pre-FF XIII, 75k).

test_account · Dec 30, 2010

Regardless of who will win the DS vs PSP battle in 2010, i think that the PSP has made a great achievement anyway since it is the only system that managed to do sell more this year compared to 2009.

Nuclear Muffin · Dec 30, 2010

Kenka said:
And we know that NSMB DS sold about 27'000 from the previous thread. It missed the top 20, but not by much. Amazing. And no Christmas bump for Super Mario All-Stars.

Supply constraints perhaps? I know that it's out of stock pretty much everywhere in the US at least (since I can't find a bloody US copy to save my life

)

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2010

If you care so much for HW battles these are the traching periods.

Famitsu
2010 152 {2009.12.28 - 2010.12.26}
It ended last week

Media Create
2010 152 {2010.01.04 - 2011.01.02}
It ends this week

Souldriver · Dec 30, 2010

Chris1964 said:
If you care so much for HW battles these are the traching periods.

Famitsu
2010 152 {2009.12.28 - 2010.12.26}
It ended last week

Media Create
2010 152 {2010.01.04 - 2011.01.02}
It ends this week

But wait, that means everyone can probably claim victory?! THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*raaage*

Road · Dec 30, 2010

Famitsu YTD:

NDS - 2,749,958
PSP - 2,717,605

WII - 1,592,018
PS3 - 1,498,067

1 week (?) of data left.

Anasui Kishibe · Dec 30, 2010

as I was saying, DKCR 2 out next year. Believe.

great numbers for the Wii. Cannot be the DK effect can it? If not, blimey, didn't know a franchise like that could move some units

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2010

Road said:
Famitsu YTD:

NDS - 2,749,958
PSP - 2,717,605

WII - 1,592,018
PS3 - 1,498,067

1 week (?) of data left.

One week, the previous. If Famitsu is close to Media Create DS won there. Next week we will know for Media Create year results.

donny2112 · Dec 30, 2010

Souldriver said:
But wait, that means everyone can probably claim victory?!

The only system "race" really in question is DS vs. PSP by MC's YTD tracking.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Dec 30, 2010

Results Guidelines:
- Gold medal for the 1st position in a ranking by units or points
- Silver medal for the 2nd position in a ranking by units or points
- Bronze medal for the 3rd position in a ranking by units or points
- Each prediction week contains a ranking by units and points, thus awarding 2 medals of each metal.
- All rankings are listed by gold medals, then by silver medals and finally by bronze medals.

2009 Guidelines:
- 7 weeks of predictions + 1 monthly prediction (with just ranking by units)
- 11/09-11/15 week there's a tie at #1 in the units ranking between Kurosaki Ichigo and Chris1964 so two gold medals are awarded and no silver.

Code:

	[B][U]Prediction League 2009[/U][/B]			
[U]#	Username	Gold	Silver	Bronze[/U]
1	Kurosaki Ichigo	5	3	1
2	Chris1964	4	2	1
3	schuelma	2	3	3
4	Takao		2	0	0
5	Spiegel		1	1	3
6	Y2Kev		1	0	1
7	7Th		1	0	0
8	jj984jj		0	2	0
9	kay		0	1	1
10	botticus	0	1	0
11	ksamedi		0	1	0
12	onken		0	0	2
13	batbeg		0	0	1
14	LINK.AGE76	0	0	1
15	ivedoneyourmom	0	0	1

2010 Guidelines:
- 21 weeks of predictions
- 02/22-02/28 week there's a tie at #2 in the units ranking between Spiegel, Chris1964 and Nirolak so three silver medals are awarded and no bronze.

Code:

	[U][B]Prediction League 2010[/B][/U]			
[U]#	Username	Gold	Silver	Bronze[/U]
1	Kurosaki Ichigo	7	9	6
2	Chris1964	7	5	7
3	Road		5	4	3
4	duckroll	4	2	3
5	onken		3	2	2
6	MemoirsofMimi	3	1	0
7	KuwabaraTheMan	2	0	0
8	u_neek		2	0	0
9	jj984jj		1	3	3
10	FINALFANTASYDOG	1	3	0
11	The_lascar	1	3	0
12	Spiegel		1	2	6
13	Orgen		1	1	3
14	iifu		1	1	1
15	Brazil		1	0	1
16	BladeoftheIm.	1	0	1
17	starship	1	0	0
18	slaughterking	0	2	0
19	Nirolak		0	2	0
20	Mr. Pointy	0	1	1
21	cw_sasuke	0	1	1
22	Aad		0	1	0
23	Kenka		0	1	0
24	ksamedi		0	0	1
25	neutralgamer02	0	0	1
26	faridmon	0	0	1

2009-2010 Guidelines:
- Sum of 2009 and 2010 respective rankings.

Code:

	[U][B]Prediction League 2009-2010[/B][/U]			
[U]#	Username	Gold	Silver	Bronze[/U]
1	Kurosaki Ichigo	12	12	7
2	Chris1964	11	7	8
3	Road		5	4	3
4	duckroll	4	2	3
5	onken		3	2	4
6	MemoirsofMimi	3	1	0
7	Spiegel		2	3	9
8	schuelma	2	3	3
9	KuwabaraTheMan	2	0	0
10	u_neek		2	0	0
11	Takao		2	0	0
12	jj984jj		1	5	3
13	FINALFANTASYDOG	1	3	0
14	The_lascar	1	3	0
15	Orgen		1	1	3
16	iifu		1	1	1
17	Brazil		1	0	1
18	BladeoftheIm.	1	0	1
19	Y2Kev		1	0	1
20	starship	1	0	0
21	7Th		1	0	0
22	slaughterking	0	2	0
23	Nirolak		0	2	0
24	Mr. Pointy	0	1	1
25	cw_sasuke	0	1	1
26	ksamedi		0	1	1
27	kay		0	1	1
28	Aad		0	1	0
29	Kenka		0	1	0
30	botticus	0	1	0
31	neutralgamer02	0	0	1
32	faridmon	0	0	1
33	batbeg		0	0	1
34	LINK.AGE76	0	0	1
35	ivedoneyourmom	0	0	1

Congratulations to Kurosaki Ichigo, Chris1964 and Road for finishing 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectively in the 2009-2010 combined ranking.

Thanks everyone for participating! We'll start soon next year

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2010

Next week's releases {2011.01.06}

[NDS] SaGa 3: Jikuu no Hasha - Shadow or Light (Square Enix)
[PSP] Slotter Mania P: Mach Go Go Go III (Dorart)

Celine · Dec 30, 2010

Souldriver said:
But wait, that means everyone can probably claim victory?! THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*raaage*

*we-got-robbed.jpg*
:lol

cw_sasuke · Dec 30, 2010

Chris1964 said:
Next week releases {2011.01.06}

[NDS] SaGa 3: Jikuu no Hasha - Shadow or Light (Square Enix)
[PSP] Slotter Mania P: Mach Go Go Go III (Dorart)

Will it be SEs last "bomba" on DS ? I would be surprised if it sells more than 70k in it's first week, am i too pessimistic ?

onken · Dec 30, 2010

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Results Guidelines:

Yeah I'm going to stick with my "rigged" theory :lol

On the plus side, 7 point improvement this year. By that logic I should be -2 for 2011.

Celine · Dec 30, 2010

cw_sasuke said:
Will it be SEs last "bomba" on DS ? I would be surprised if it sells more than 70k in it's first week, am i too pessimistic ?

What it did the first one ( remake ) ?

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2010

{2009.09.14 - 2010.03.28} 0156. [NDS] SaGa 2: Legendary Secret Treasure - Goddess of Destiny (Square Enix) {2009.09.17} - 100.563 / 170.392

schuelma · Dec 30, 2010

schuelma for the 2009 BRONZE!!!!

WHOO HOOOOO

On a serious note, it really is amazing how relevant Nintendo hardware and software gets in December. I wasn't one of those thinking PS3>Wii easily in 2010 like a lot did, but I definitely thought this was the PS3's year hardware wise. Whoops.

Road · Dec 30, 2010

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Results Guidelines:

Congratulations to Kurosaki Ichigo, Chris1964 and Road for finishing 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectively in the 2009-2010 combined ranking.

Thanks everyone for participating! We'll start soon next year

I'm not even in the 2009 top. At least I'm improving. hahaha

Thanks for doing the data work!

Jokeropia · Dec 30, 2010

Chris1964 said:

Code:

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|  PSP  |     5.380 |   162.558 |    79.194 |  2.550.741 |  2.070.518 |  16.218.074 |      
| PSPgo |   177.691 |     1.949 |     3.260 |    247.897 |     67.660 |     323.652 |      
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think there was a mixup here.

Busaiku said:
That would make it bigger than the entire Metroid Prime series.

In Japan yes, but worldwide I'm pretty sure the Prime series has sold more than 4-5 million combined. Not to say DKCR can't sell even more.

cvxfreak · Dec 30, 2010

schuelma said:
On a serious note, it really is amazing how relevant Nintendo hardware and software gets in December. I wasn't one of those thinking PS3>Wii easily in 2010 like a lot did, but I definitely thought this was the PS3's year hardware wise. Whoops.

The PS3's chances died along with GT5's legs.

Road · Dec 30, 2010

On the subject of overall Nintendomination, I just saw an interesting observation:

Latest weekly no. 1s:

51 - [PSP] MHP3rd
50 - [PSP] MHP3rd
49 - [PSP] MHP3rd
48 - [PSP] MHP3rd
47 - [PS3] GT5
46 - [PS3] Black Ops
45 - [PSP] Tactics Ogre
44 - [PSP] God Eater: Burst
43 - [PSP] God Eater: Burst

Sony gets the top spot, but that is all.

[Nintex] · Dec 30, 2010

PS3 keeps tanking probably because they half assed the Move. First the Go, now the Move Sony can't seem to launch anything right these days.

Megadragon15 · Dec 30, 2010

[Nintex] said:
PS3 keeps tanking probably because they half assed the Move. First the Go, now the Move Sony can't seem to launch anything right these days.

Things aren't really that dire for the PS3 like you are making it out to be. They almost kept pace this year with the Wii in Japan.

Spiegel · Dec 30, 2010

Road said:
On the subject of overall Nintendomination, I just saw an interesting observation:

Latest weekly no. 1s:

51 - [PSP] MHP3rd
50 - [PSP] MHP3rd
49 - [PSP] MHP3rd
48 - [PSP] MHP3rd
47 - [PS3] GT5
46 - [PS3] Black Ops
45 - [PSP] Tactics Ogre
44 - [PSP] God Eater: Burst
43 - [PSP] God Eater: Burst

Sony gets the top spot, but that is all.

Adding Top 20 sales in December I think PS3+PSP games are selling better than Wii+DS.

Yes, it's mostly thanks to MHP3 but one MHP3 game sold counts the same as any other game.

cw_sasuke · Dec 30, 2010

[Nintex] said:
PS3 keeps tanking probably because they half assed the Move. First the Go, now the Move Sony can't seem to launch anything right these days.

So without Move Ps3 would be sellin more now ? I dont understand why an optional controller should have negative impact on the plattform.

Paracelsus · Dec 30, 2010

cw_sasuke said:
So without Move Ps3 would be sellin more now ? I dont understand why an optional controller should have negative impact on the plattform.

You probably misread, he said PS3 is selling as if Move (casual-friendly peripheral which should have boosted sales) never existed.

apana · Dec 30, 2010

DKCR may reach a million in Japan. Hoping that WW it matches the sales of the original Donkey Kong Country. It's a tough climb, it will have to keep selling small amounts every week for years after the first year. I think DKCR will eventually pass Twilight Princess WW which will be kind of interesting.

Road · Dec 30, 2010

PS3 has pulled ahead the Saturn to become the best selling loser home console in Japan:

PS3 - 6.01
SAT - 5.90
PCE - 5.84
N64 - 5.54
NGC - 4.02
GEN - 3.58
DC - 2.80
360 - 1.41
3DO - 0.72
XBX - 0.50

(Millions of units, sell-through or shipment data: http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm

cw_sasuke · Dec 30, 2010

Paracelsus said:
You probably misread, he said PS3 is selling as if Move (casual-friendly peripheral which should have boosted sales) never existed.

Erm okay, but there is already a market for that on Wii - i cant see how Move would have changed that, when most Ps3 Users probably already own a Wii and have access to Nintendos First Party Casual titles.

GregLombardi · Dec 30, 2010

Road said:
PS3 has pulled ahead the Saturn to become the best selling loser home console in Japan:

PS3 - 6.01
SAT - 5.90
PCE - 5.84
N64 - 5.54
NGC - 4.02
GEN - 3.58
DC - 2.80
360 - 1.41
3DO - 0.72
XBX - 0.50

(Millions of units, sell-through or shipment data: http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm

Wow at the worst selling.

Japan is very particular.

cvxfreak · Dec 30, 2010

[Nintex] said:
PS3 keeps tanking probably because they half assed the Move. First the Go, now the Move Sony can't seem to launch anything right these days.

Nintendo's done a good job reminding Japanese customers what makes the Wii Remote so special and more compelling than Move. The Wii Sports Resort Wiimote+ bundle is the best example why, and Wii Party is another good one.

There isn't much, if any compelling content for Move in Japan right now. I look at all the games available and the overall marketing behind it, and they just aren't compelling at all. It looked somewhat promising before launch, but I think the PS3's momentum from a few months ago (defined as such by outselling the Wii) in retrospect had little to do with Move.

If Sony is sincere about making the PS3 a motion control console that can be taken seriously, then they need to start making Move a default inclusion with the system, much like Nintendo needs to make the Classic Controller Pro a default inclusion to stop confusing consumers with different bundles and what-not.

jonnybryce · Dec 30, 2010

The problem with Move is clear, they kind of threw it out there as an alternate controller for people who want it rather than launching a new killer experience. I really don't see how they thought that would do anything but bring in the kind of numbers that reflect exactly that.

I don't think the PS3 sales numbers can be blamed on Move alone, though. Hopefully 2011's wave of content will have Sony seeing much higher numbers. They need to do something.

Rolf NB · Dec 30, 2010

Road said:
PS3 has pulled ahead the Saturn to become the best selling loser home console in Japan:

Lots of apologies are due now. I don't think too many will remember though.

ivysaur12 · Dec 30, 2010

Road said:
PS3 has pulled ahead the Saturn to become the best selling loser home console in Japan:

PS3 - 6.01
SAT - 5.90
PCE - 5.84
N64 - 5.54
NGC - 4.02
GEN - 3.58
DC - 2.80
360 - 1.41
3DO - 0.72
XBX - 0.50

(Millions of units, sell-through or shipment data: http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm

I'm more shocked that the Saturn outsold the N64.

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2010

Megadragon15 said:
Things aren't really that dire for the PS3 like you are making it out to be. They almost kept pace this year with the Wii in Japan.

This December couldn't be worse for PS3.

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