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FyreWulff said:
Got numbers?
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Halo: Reach |OT6| There Are Those Who Said This Day Would Never Come
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Got numbers?
Curious about the numbers. I did not see any drop off after they were introduced, but I only checked for a few days after the update.FyreWulff said:
432 players right now, which is about what it was running at nightly IIRC. TO usually only got much above 500 on the weekends.
Probably depended on when you looked; on the west coast where I am, I generally only get on after 8:00; the east coast was turning in around then on weeknights. I imagine it was a bit higher a few hours earlier.Havok said:
I wouldn't be too shocked to see the population drop with DMR starts, but I think hard numbers are needed when citing a "massive drop" in playlist populations.
Havok said:
Yeah. DEEP NNN didn't track Team Objective much, but it went from about 900-1500 nightly to maxing around 500-600.
DMR as a first voting option would have made sense.
AR skip after veto? Could see that.
100% DMR with AR start only being 2 Flag Classic? Same mistake they made with Social Skirmish when they crammed Team Throwback gametypes into it.
Making a playlist 100% DMR start ALWAYS drops population, just like making a playlist BR start in Halo 3 drop population. The definition of 'hardcore' is that it's not mainstream, and will therefore attract less players.
The rough order of population drop influence still remains:
1) Having any objective gametypes
2) Not allowing guests or bigger-than teamsize parties
3) Requiring DLC
4) Making it 100% DMR/BR start
5) Ranked
Making Social Skirmish a Throwback clone was a poor decision, and repeating the same mistake with Reach's Team Objective was just downright silly. I don't even know why they bother having AR start Objective anymore if they're just going to use it to pander to the hardcore that don't want to play it anyway down the line.
...you first saw this?
I remember exactly where I was and all the crazy thoughts running through my mind as I watched it eleventeen million times before I went to work that day. That was such a glorious day. What were your thoughts when you saw this? Hyped as I was?
Still one of the greatest game trailers I've seen to this date.
I remember exactly where I was and all the crazy thoughts running through my mind as I watched it eleventeen million times before I went to work that day. That was such a glorious day. What were your thoughts when you saw this? Hyped as I was?
Still one of the greatest game trailers I've seen to this date.
Oh sure, I definitely wouldn't describe anything about the change as massive. Besides, there are so many other factors to explain the drop in that playlist. Frustration with the extremely limited map selection, removal of all vehicle play, and if course the ever-looming Evade rage were what began my current habits of not playing it anymore. DMR starts were just another sort-of-neutral thing that was introduced.GhaleonEB said:
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I really want to tell you everything. But it will be naughty, so don't call your mom.Homeboyd said:
I'm tired right now. Have to go to school in one hour and so I don't really have the time :/
Slightly Live
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GhaleonEB said:
There are so many variables for trying to build an idea of playlist numbers - you've point out some there. Even then to make a proper assessment, you need historical data and comparative data for the same time period.
A drop in numbers in a particular playlist could be following a trend over a period of months or could even be reflective of a wider trend across many playlists that looking at one playlist in isolation wouldn't tell you.
Heck, playlist changes themselves are usually group together, if two changes are introduced simultaneously and there is a change in the population, how dod you determine why specific change is responsible.
Never mind the fact that player-based playlist population data capturing is almost meaningless due to the canyon-sized margin of error.
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Havok said:
I could see playing a game against someone who can evade + sword pretty well turning more people off than DMR starts.
Dani said:
True.
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The credts, dude. People will do everything for credits!FyreWulff said:
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The Halo: CE pistol was the main reason I didn't enjoy CE multiplayer. Sometimes I wonder if I would be a Halo fan today were it not for Frankie's Weekly Updates hyping me up for Halo 2.Steelyuhas said:
(Confession: The pistol was fun to shoot in the TU. Maybe it was witnessing bleed-through shields in Reach. I felt like I was cheating. Heh. I can't wait to play Pistols Only on Beaver Creek on custom nights.)
I plan on having an all-night Reach gaming session when we're graced with the TU's holy presence, so hopefully we can get a party going that day.
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So LASO Pillar of Autumn again next week?FyreWulff said:
Got it.
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Whoa, I've never seen that! I was super cynical about Halo at the time, and had stopped gaming almost entirely. It's crazy to see, and LOL @ only beta maps being shown.Homeboyd said:
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lybertyboy said:
Hah. Hilarious.
omg.kittens said:
Check out how cool invasion looks. Now think about how it really plays out.
/depressionmode
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EASYB Pillar of Autumn -- Easy Difficulty All Skulls on + Blindlybertyboy said:
They 'fixed' TO by: keeping in evade, removing one map (the vehicle oriented Hemorrhage), not adding any maps in, adding fringe gametypes while also keeping in Hot PotatoA27 Tawpgun said:
I guess... that's fixing it? All I really wanted around that Drop Shield BS time was simply, remove Drop Shield loadouts, add DMR start for Hemorrhage gametypes (hell, it was DMR starts in maps like Boardwalk and Tempest, but nowhere else), and add in 2-bomb. And as I said before, I don't encourage AR stuff - I loved using the Pistol against those AR jetpack wielders and on maps. Now it's just a DMR fray, which isn't necessary on small maps and, in my view, universally. Instead they did the opposite and just made it a stale playlist where I quite frankly am not desired to join much anymore.
Had some fun games tonight in Arena and BTB. Trueskill is the worst.
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Halo Reach Weekly #53: C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER - Earn 500 kills with the Assault Rifle in the Team Objective playlist. - 343 cR
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If I'd had mic, I would have recorded a "facking grenadez" to cheer you up.Devolution said:
mmh. Impossible. Can't wait for the weekly "get 1,000 Rejection medals in the Squad Slayer playlist".ncsuDuncan said:
It was definitely a case of overfixing things in some cases, yeah. Armor Lock was never really a problem in Objective, but it got the axe too while it and DS were replaced with Evade, which has become a bigger problem than either of them ever were. The lack of Multibomb is still completely baffling - one of the premier objective gametypes completely ignored.Striker said:
If Objective is ever touched again, I'd like to see how Classic Forge variants fare (sans the ones with technical problems + Rat Trap) - they sure can't be worse than some of the experiences I've had in there. Honestly, stuff like Noble Creek and Magus work better than Sword Base or Uncaged.
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Crap. I meant Rejection. lol.Homeboyd said:
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I think I was on GAF. I watched it and my head exploded. I watched it about a million more times after that to catch every single detail and my head still exploded every time. It hurt. It hurt so good.Homeboyd said:
EDIT: Awesome Devo! Haha
Nice Devo...lol
TO never had a population of 1500, we've played it pretty much exclusively since launch and it always hovers around 700 people or less at 9-10 EST+...
Played some truly awful people in Team Slayer all night, and that has like the second highest population in the game, so I guess my theory of trueskill not having enough players to pick from in TO for a competitive game is debunked.
TO never had a population of 1500, we've played it pretty much exclusively since launch and it always hovers around 700 people or less at 9-10 EST+...
Played some truly awful people in Team Slayer all night, and that has like the second highest population in the game, so I guess my theory of trueskill not having enough players to pick from in TO for a competitive game is debunked.
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I was sitting in the college library waiting for my girlfriend's class to end. It was during the height of my pre-acceptance HaloGAF addiction.Homeboyd said:
I remember audibly giggling like a Catholic schoolgirl. People shot me strange looks -- a mixture of silent surprise and deep-seated fear. I put on my best "Nuthin' but a G Thang" stunna stare, and then shit got real.
Two guys stood up from their table and approached my computer. "Who the fuck you think you is?" asked the first man. "This cracker is tripping," snarled the second white man without a hint of irony.
I cracked my knuckles, cleared my throat, and with all of the cool confidence of a fat cat on ice, I said, "Do you guys play Halo?"
They looked at each other, visibly surprised that their tough front passed over me like a tornado over a storm shelter.
"Well, if you weren't before, you will be now."
I turned the monitor toward the two gentlemen wearing finely pressed polos and cargo shorts, and I let the video roll.
Jetpacks. Loadouts. Assassinations. Each visual treat brought tears of joy to their eyes.
As the clip ended, so, too, did their reign of library terror. They shook my hand, thanked me for my time and took the elevator down to the ground floor exit.
And like the rolling thunder of a coming storm, the people around me began to clap, then cheer, and before I could grasp the situation, they gathered around me, lifting me on their shoulders and chanting my name.
For too long had they feared happiness. Too long had they hidden their gleeful faces behind solemn masks. Now they were free to laugh, to smile, to live.
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What does a "narrative design" do?Homeboyd said:
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I miss being able to fire the pistol that quickly.Homeboyd said: