BishopLamont
Banned
Yeah seriously, Layton?
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Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2012 (Jan 02 - Jan 08)
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Yeah seriously, Layton?
Eeeeh, for being an "adventure" game with a story and cutscenes, this is why I see something similar to Layton. It's also the way it was defined in the famous rumour list XD
But yeah, you're both right. In fact, I said "imitating". XD
Still talking about this week's releases, I fear Beyond the Labyrinth won't do as much as I hoped. If Google Translated did its work right, it seems Sinobi expect 50k, but I don't know if it's talking about first shipment or whole YTD.
But...Heroes Phantasia? I don't understand what it could do. Yeah, not so much, but...
They're both lower, but neither have dropped off too much.
The Inazuma Eleven Go movie might end up doing as well or better as the first film, cause it's in more theaters.
The TV show and franchise in general benefited a lot from the World Cup hype.
electroplankton
Banned
Actually, we don't know how adventur-esque Rhythm Thief is, since we have only seen the music parts.
In JP's Amazon, Kid Icarus: Uprising is number one in best sellers:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsell..._rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1281607882&pf_rd_i=468642#1
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsell..._rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1281607882&pf_rd_i=468642#1
electroplankton
Banned
omg million seller confirmed???
It's good that now it's first, but we have to see what will happen near the release dates, let's stay calm
Media Create look at 2011
http://andriasang.com/comznq/game_sales_4gamer/
Media Create look at 2011
http://andriasang.com/comznq/game_sales_4gamer/
It's good that now it's first, but we have to see what will happen near the release dates, let's stay calm
Media Create look at 2011
If someone knows Japanese he could try to translate this article:
http://www.4gamer.net/games/000/G000000/20120116002/
It's the source of andriasang and it has more information.
I like how you put a positive spin on it while it's worse than the farther off Tales of Heroes and at less than half of both its original DS version and the Abyss direct port on 3DS.
airmangataosenai
Member
The One Piece Musou game's performance on that chart is just absurd. It's been in the top 10 since it was listed as far as I know and is number 1 currently despite being a few months off still. Amazon isn't the best measure I know, but could this thing end up selling a million?
It's a "launch window" Vita title. There is nothing you can determine from its performance given the hardware installed base.
walking fiend
Member
No.
Also, it is not absurd that it will sell quite well. One Piece is very popular, and it fits the Musou genre quite well, which itself is also popular.
airmangataosenai
Member
I know One Piece is crazy popular there, what I was getting at was that even then this seems to have way more staying power on the charts than you'd normally expect given it's March release.
test_account
XP-39C²
When the DS version of Tales of Innocense was released, the DS installbase was like 13 million. The Vita installbase will be maybe 550k - 600k in comparison. While the userbase doesnt always mean that much, i think that it definitely something to concider when the difference is this huge.
electroplankton
Banned
Tales of Eternia was released on PSP during its first months and performed pretty well, wasn't it?
test_account
XP-39C²
It sold about 74k in its first week. LTD is about 193k. The PSP userbase was about 1 million units at that the launch of ToE.
People keep saying that ToI is one of the worse Tales game, but i havnt played any of them, so i cant comment much on that. But if ToI on DS sold about 106k in the first week (LTD = 246k) on a 13 million userbase, then i dont expect much from a remake on a ~600k userbase.
Well, now is number 2, but is pretty surprising that this game is very high in the ranking.
It's the next big Nintendo release for 3DS...and it comes with a free stand. Maybe, this is helping a bit! XD
Did we really need to explain this to you? If the game sells 50k at this point it would be surprising given only 500k or so Vita's have been sold. 50k would normally be a giant failure for a Tales game but considering the install base I think it's about the best that could be hoped for. And I'm sure Namco is hoping the game will show at least some small legs as the userbase grows although that could be a false hope.
Lack of install base doesn't make low software sales any more positive than they are. Arguing for the opposite is just extending the positive spin from the software to the hardware it's being released on. If you want to see surprisingly good sales for a low install base look at the best selling titles on Xbox 360. If we take Comgnet number as an indication Tales of Innocence R won't do such kind of notable numbers either.
iirc they were expecting 250k lol
The original plan was to remake Tales games on Vita but I'm sure Namco will scrap those plans when ToIR sells 30k in the first week.
Honestly, I can't see any announced Vita game debuting at >60k (the only exception would probably be FFX but that game might no even get released this year) until Sony lowers the price to 20000Y because a handheld with zero momentum, 25000Y+ as the base price and an uncertain future is the perfect "bomba" maker.
Honestly, I can't see any announced Vita game debuting at >60k (the only exception would probably be FFX but that game might no even get released this year) until Sony lowers the price to 20000Y because a handheld with zero momentum, 25000Y+ as the base price and an uncertain future is the perfect "bomba" maker.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
6/10 of the top 10 are 3DS.
It's crazy to think that PSP is going to surpass one of the best consoles of all time in term of sales in Japan, when some years ago almost everyone thought it would have reached only Saturn / N64 numbers. Absolutely CRAZY.
test_account
XP-39C²
He didnt said anything like this though. First he said that the Comgnet was a bit higher than he thought. Then he said that he think 50k is the best Bandai Namco can hope for. He didnt say that 50k was a great success or anything like that, so i cant quite see where the spin is.
Magicpaint
Member
I still don't know whose idea it was to remake ToI, especially when it's not that good a tales game and isn't that old. It's just begging for failure.
electroplankton
Banned
It's also the first interesting game for Vita after the launch.
Not even close (there's like 9 or 10 millions difference). And the GBA was killed pretty early for a handheld.
Hero of Legend
Member
How did Abyss 3DS do?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Not that lack of Tales legs is a surprise, but I guess Abyss 3DS failing to make the Top 100 (123K lower end) shows us it didn't move much since 107K in late September.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
RE is pretty low comparatively.
RE has been available for pre-orders for a much longer time so that's kinda normal.
Honestly, while using comgnet is interesting when comparing numbers with previous games in the same franchise too get a vague idea of how they'll perform, Amazon rankings are really pointless to judge a certain game's future.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
I'm hoping that Kid Icarus surprises me. I'm not exactly enthused with what we've seen so far, but the game is one of Sakurai's flights of fancy and the last time we had one of those we got Meteos, which was awesome.
test_account
XP-39C²
It depends on how much new content it has, and how much work that is put into the remake. As someone mentioned above here, ToI isnt really that old of an game either, so it depends on how many that wants to rebuy it. But sure, it shall be interesting to see how much it sells, but i wont expect much.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Yeah, I was just surprised that it was below Rhythm Thief. I know that Amazon is not representative of the market as a whole.
This extended amazon and comgnet analysis lately is killing me.
New releases {2012.01.19}
[3DS] Beyond the Labyrinth <RPG> (Konami) (¥5.800)
[3DS] Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure <ACT> (Sega) (¥6.090)
[3DS] Runabout 3D Drive: Impossible <RCE> (Rocket Company) (¥6.090)
[PSV] WipEout 2048 <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥4.980)
[NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (New Best Price! 2000) <ADV> (Capcom) (¥2.100)
[PSP] Heroes Phantasia # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.280)
[PSP] Heroes Phantasia [Limited Edition] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥9.980)
[PSP] Kannou Mukashi Banashi Portable # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Kannou Mukashi Banashi Portable [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[WII] Kiki Trick <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥5.800)
[WII] Sengoku Basara 2: Heroes - Double Pack (Best Price! Reprint) <ACT> (Capcom) (¥2.990)
[PS3] Red Dead Redemption: Complete Edition <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (¥6.090)
[PS3] Dead Rising 2 (PlayStation 3 the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) (¥2.990)
[PS3] Nobunaga's Ambition: Way of Heaven (PlayStation 3 the Best) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.040)
[PS3] Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll (Koei Tecmo the Best) <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.940)
[360] Red Dead Redemption: Complete Edition <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (¥6.090)
[360] Onechanbara Z: Kagura <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥7.140)
[360] PowerUp Heroes <FTG> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥5.880)
[360] Dead Rising 2 (Platinum Collection) <ACT> (Capcom) (¥2.990)
New releases {2012.01.19}
[3DS] Beyond the Labyrinth <RPG> (Konami) (¥5.800)
[3DS] Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure <ACT> (Sega) (¥6.090)
[3DS] Runabout 3D Drive: Impossible <RCE> (Rocket Company) (¥6.090)
[PSV] WipEout 2048 <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥4.980)
[NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (New Best Price! 2000) <ADV> (Capcom) (¥2.100)
[PSP] Heroes Phantasia # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.280)
[PSP] Heroes Phantasia [Limited Edition] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥9.980)
[PSP] Kannou Mukashi Banashi Portable # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Kannou Mukashi Banashi Portable [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[WII] Kiki Trick <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥5.800)
[WII] Sengoku Basara 2: Heroes - Double Pack (Best Price! Reprint) <ACT> (Capcom) (¥2.990)
[PS3] Red Dead Redemption: Complete Edition <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (¥6.090)
[PS3] Dead Rising 2 (PlayStation 3 the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) (¥2.990)
[PS3] Nobunaga's Ambition: Way of Heaven (PlayStation 3 the Best) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.040)
[PS3] Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll (Koei Tecmo the Best) <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.940)
[360] Red Dead Redemption: Complete Edition <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (¥6.090)
[360] Onechanbara Z: Kagura <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥7.140)
[360] PowerUp Heroes <FTG> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥5.880)
[360] Dead Rising 2 (Platinum Collection) <ACT> (Capcom) (¥2.990)
Cygnus X-1
Member
???
Heh I never knew Sengoku Basara 2 came out for the Wii.
Sakamoto's new kinda weird game experiment about recognizing sounds, it looks pretty fun.
Sakamoto's new kinda weird game experiment about recognizing sounds, it looks pretty fun.
My impressions bolded.
And all of you, remember: until next week Nintendo's Investor Meeting, Kiki Trick is the last brand new Wii release for a while...the next one is Mario Party 9, at the end of April.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Sakamoto, the creator of Metroid?
Kiki Trick could be a decent sleeper hit.
Yes, also creator of Rhythm Heaven and Tomodachi Collection.
Yeah. Game was revealed around a week ago during their online-conference-stuff.
It's like Wario Ware..but around sounds.
Lord_Byron28
Member
I think it'll be much harder for it to happen on Wii. Also I believe Sakamoto started up the Wario Ware series. Really besides Other M his contributions to low budget, casual, million + selling games the past two gens have been pretty good. Probably why he was allowed to take a big risk/budget with Other M.
Wow at Armored Core. Never really been the big of a series even in Japan has it?
Sammy Samusu
Member
[NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (New Best Price! 2000)
And I'm still waiting for the fucking english localization. A mess.
And I'm still waiting for the fucking english localization. A mess.