PixyJunket
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3DS eShop is beastly.
Well, to be fair, it's a mix of beastly and emptiness.
But the good is SOOO good.
Well, to be fair, it's a mix of beastly and emptiness.
But the good is SOOO good.
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Crimson Shroud |OT| Matsuno fails saving throw, relegated to eShop release
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To Far Away Times
Member
Sounds interesting.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Exactly, it's either nothing, mediocrity or AMAZINGNESS, compared to the constant torrent of shit that was DSiWare.
Wow... very, very interesting... I never thought I'd see something like this on the eShop. Really pleased with the quick turn around on the english release. I will be buying this.
Only thing I'm concerned about is the amount of gameplay that is included. A lot of these cheaper games trade content in favor of looking really pretty.
Only thing I'm concerned about is the amount of gameplay that is included. A lot of these cheaper games trade content in favor of looking really pretty.
gamergirly
Member
Humm. More $$$ gone
Snowden's Secret
Banned
It's still available for purchase (!)
I'd give it a 3/5, very solid but feels almost like an audition for a full game which gives it a shallowness.
Hours Left
Member
Will purchase.
Criminal Upper
Banned
It's not better than Liberation Maiden.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Its more like a choose your own adventure book that has dice rolls and a horrible battle system thrown in that uses those nice looking character models that are made like figures from a board game. Its pretty text heavy and personally was not all that interesting unless you are into that sort of game.
Alex
Member
The 3DS eShop, or the Push/Crashmo delivery service as I like to call it, has got to be the very last download service I would ever use the world beastly for.
So, branching stories?
I expected this to be a glorified game book with dice rolls and all.
TurnipFritters
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"We’re still wholeheartedly considering how to or whether or not we can make that title work at the moment. The game is actually extremely text-heavy, and it functions on the expressive power of its text and language. Hirai-san, the creator, is a famous comedian in Japan, and the game is deeply rooted in his talent for expressing Japanese culture through language. We need to consider the high pedigree of translation required, and the time and money needed to do that with this amount of text may surprise you. Another factor we need to consider is whether or not a large enough audience outside of Japan would appreciate a game that relies so heavily on knowledge of Japanese culture."
Game pros/cons:
Pros:
+Excellent Matsuno writing you've grown to expect. Very good characters with intelligent dialogue, story that keeps your interest.
+Story presentation. Has a neat take on the visual novel genre.
+Good music
+Battle system is solid. Has creative new ideas that you'd expect from Matsuno gameplay.
+Good challenge (maybe too hard forcing grinding for specific drops necessary to beat certain bosses though)
Cons:
-One of the slowest rpgs ever made. A random battle takes 5-10 mins. A boss battle takes 10-20 mins. Every action you take once a battle has started is like you're playing an rpg in slow-motion. It really feels like this is not purposeful either, but rather that Matsuno was paired with incompetent programmers who couldn't get the game to run full speed.
-Game is all equipment based. No levels/no stats. At times you gotta grind for specific drops to get an attack or spell you need. This would be ok if every random battle wasn't easy and still took 10 mins only to find you didn't get the drop and need to try over and over again for an hour+ until you get it.
-Just incredibly slow and tedious, which when combined with high difficulty level means only the most patient rpg players will make it to the end. You have to put in A LOT of effort and your own time if you want to see this very short story play out. Which is a shame because it's a well written neat story. It's just in a pretty shoddy game, which may be due to bad programming and not necessarily bad design.
Pros:
+Excellent Matsuno writing you've grown to expect. Very good characters with intelligent dialogue, story that keeps your interest.
+Story presentation. Has a neat take on the visual novel genre.
+Good music
+Battle system is solid. Has creative new ideas that you'd expect from Matsuno gameplay.
+Good challenge (maybe too hard forcing grinding for specific drops necessary to beat certain bosses though)
Cons:
-One of the slowest rpgs ever made. A random battle takes 5-10 mins. A boss battle takes 10-20 mins. Every action you take once a battle has started is like you're playing an rpg in slow-motion. It really feels like this is not purposeful either, but rather that Matsuno was paired with incompetent programmers who couldn't get the game to run full speed.
-Game is all equipment based. No levels/no stats. At times you gotta grind for specific drops to get an attack or spell you need. This would be ok if every random battle wasn't easy and still took 10 mins only to find you didn't get the drop and need to try over and over again for an hour+ until you get it.
-Just incredibly slow and tedious, which when combined with high difficulty level means only the most patient rpg players will make it to the end. You have to put in A LOT of effort and your own time if you want to see this very short story play out. Which is a shame because it's a well written neat story. It's just in a pretty shoddy game, which may be due to bad programming and not necessarily bad design.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Definitely interested. Will probably buy but still curious on reviews, impressions, and game length.
Also Kyoko Kitahara is involved, she is in the Crimson Shroud credits. Alexander O. Smith in the Japan credits is credited with special thanks.
The developer is Nex Entertainment.
ScreenSplitter
Member
There's more than just the 'Mo series. And I say that as a massive fan of the 'mo games.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
I will buy this just to support Matsuno. If I get 10 hours out of it, it'll be worth it.
SpaceBridge
Member
I just wanna see some gameplay video before committing.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Um...this is tearing me apart, bebpo!!
What are the chances the game got some speed adjustments?
I guess I'll buy it anyway...I mean...it's matsuno game, how many years will need to wait for another one?.
Here's some gameplay:
http://youtu.be/JCXxF0MacYQ?t=16m48s
http://youtu.be/JCXxF0MacYQ?t=16m48s
A Human Becoming
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Bebpo pretty much killed my interest in the game. Will wait for more impressions.
Will wait for more impressions.That's awesome!
I'm not sure if this is an already known fact or not but people who are being put off from impressions from the version included in the retail release might not wanna get their hopes down yet since apparently the downloadable version which was released a few days ago in Japan includes new items and balance adjustments: http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2012/12/01/61839.html?1354404601
Also this version apparently already has an English language option built-in, I guess this means the English version will be the same and you'll be able to play in Japanese? Hopefully: http://www.inside-games.jp/article/img/2012/12/01/61839/327501.html)
Also this version apparently already has an English language option built-in, I guess this means the English version will be the same and you'll be able to play in Japanese? Hopefully: http://www.inside-games.jp/article/img/2012/12/01/61839/327501.html)
This is worrisome.
Will buy regardless but I hope the battles are faster in the eshop version (a man can always dream).
Interesting, this is kinda unexpected, but this also explains why Matsuno only left Level5 after the completion of the English version of the game. Hopefully these new items and balance changes improves the game, and corrects some of the slow-paced and grindy nature mentioned by impressions of the Japanese game. Fingers crossed!
Sounds like they got that table top feel down all right.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Re: Bebs' criticisms of slow gameplay
It sounds like it's only a product of slow pace, but technical issues, am I understanding this correctly? (specifically the part about "bad programmers")
Ah, so there is still hope. Crossing my fingers as well.
It sounds like it's only a product of slow pace, but technical issues, am I understanding this correctly? (specifically the part about "bad programmers")
Ah, so there is still hope. Crossing my fingers as well.
Whoa! I hope this is true for the NA version too! I'm even more excited right now. I don't think I've had a game in awhile where I have felt legitimately excited for. That Sakimoto-Matsuno collaboration is too much for me to handle. No poor/questionable impressions can sour my excitement!
Not defending the translation, but the point of that sentence is that the narrator (presumably a character in the game) cannot discern her age just from looking.
Girl of sixteen or seventeen.
Can't make up mind.
Not sure.
Anyway keep reading.
I really enjoyed it! It was pretty short, but really crazy and fun. I played through on all difficulties.
Please tell me this is an exaggeration D:
Roughly how long is the game, by the way? I'm a sucker for a good story. I might be able to sit through the battles if the story is compelling enough.
Hey Bebpo, I got a question for you since you seem to be the resident importer/Japanese game player here. This is probably my most wanted game, at the moment. I'll be buying this game regardless of how disappointing/negative the impressions have been. Matsuno & Sakimoto collaborations don't come too often down our end of the road so I'll take what I can get.
With THAT said, how is the sound design in this game? One of my FAVORITE aspects of Vagrant Story was its sound effects. The enemy growls and monster death screams are my absolute favorite, in any game. My brother and I often talk about/bring up enemy death cries. The Dark Crusaders in Vagrant Story...doesn't get any better than that, it's like music to my ears, lol! So, are those little goblin dudes in Crimson Shroud making cool sounds when they perish? What about that classic Minotaur we've been seeing in shots (who looks straight jacked from VS)? Please, bring me good news! =D
With THAT said, how is the sound design in this game? One of my FAVORITE aspects of Vagrant Story was its sound effects. The enemy growls and monster death screams are my absolute favorite, in any game. My brother and I often talk about/bring up enemy death cries. The Dark Crusaders in Vagrant Story...doesn't get any better than that, it's like music to my ears, lol! So, are those little goblin dudes in Crimson Shroud making cool sounds when they perish? What about that classic Minotaur we've been seeing in shots (who looks straight jacked from VS)? Please, bring me good news! =D
First (?) review : http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2012/12/10/crimson-shroud-review/
If there's something I don't have it's patience with games. The Bepo's impressions scared me quite. So I hope these changes, speeds up the battles quite a bit or makes it less grindy.
Ah doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy tbh. Might I'll just buy it, to play it for whenever I'll travel(I'm more easily satisfied when I'm on the go).
Good read. It basically says the same things which Bebpo did, but with a more positive tone because presumably the writer actually enjoys the tabletop RPG experience.
Personally I can't wait to try it out this weekend.
GhostTrick
Banned
Day one for me.
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