I think the vocal fanboys who can't shut up about this one thing are just as insufferable as those "dudebros" imo.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2013 [Up5: Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, Official PS3/WiiU]
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I think the vocal fanboys who can't shut up about this one thing are just as insufferable as those "dudebros" imo.
That's what it seems like. 63K digital.
Oh finally we get all things working, perfect =)
pieatorium
Member
All systems yeah, I think people are freaking out because EA was supposedly positioning this as one of their 5 million + or bust tentpoles.
shinra-bansho
Member
Conditions that need to be met:
Xbox 360 = 302K
More creamsugar:
Wii U = 66K
PSV = 38K
My final take to meet all the conditions:
360 = 302K
PS3 = 262K
3DS = 189K
NDS = 101K
WII = 99K
WIU = 66K
PSV = 38K
PSP =9K
- Nintendo systems = 455K (Nintendo)
- Sony systems = XBOX 360 + 7K (creamsugar)
- XBOX 360 = 41% (Microsoft)
- Systems up on weekly average basis. (NPD)
- 3DS -27% Y/Y
Xbox 360 = 302K
More creamsugar:
Wii U = 66K
PSV = 38K
My final take to meet all the conditions:
360 = 302K
PS3 = 262K
3DS = 189K
NDS = 101K
WII = 99K
WIU = 66K
PSV = 38K
PSP =9K
Depends on if the FE bundles were included in the numbers Nintendo gave or not. *mind boggles*
Edit:
Oh, thanks! So 117K includes the bundles.
Edit2:
So it's
95K retail + 22K bundle + 63K download
for Fire Emblem, then. Sly Cooper's total now in question ...
Yep. 63K people purchased it from the eShop, so eShop does not include retail bundles. Good stuff to know! Brings Sly Cooper's total into question, though, since it's now only just > 95K.
Well, we know that it's at least 95k, and less than 117k. Not including digital sales, of course
nhlducks35
Member
I think they changed it a while back to where they only report rankings and no hard numbers.
Think I'll go with these for the prediction thread. Thanks!
Aquamarine
Member
NPD stopped publishing them to "preserve their product" by "stopping the release of information that isn't necessary outside of NPD's clientele."
Thank god we have people with access to the data that are willing to leak hints about it (creamsugar), otherwise we'd be very much in the dark in regards to NPD numbers.
You mean platinum fans? Yeah many of them can be a pain in the ass. It's like Dark Souls fans multiplied by however many games Platinum releases.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
My LTD and YTD estimates:
YTD:
DS - 167k
360 - 583k
PS3 - 464k
Wii - 201k
3DS - 334k
Vita - 72k
Wii U - 123k
LTD:
DS - 53.265 mil
360 - 38.563 mil
PS3 - 23.856 mil
Wii - 41.002 mil
3DS - 8.048 mil
Vita - 1.350 mil
Wii U - 1.008 mil
EDIT: Made some slight adjustments.
EDIT2: And again.
YTD:
DS - 167k
360 - 583k
PS3 - 464k
Wii - 201k
3DS - 334k
Vita - 72k
Wii U - 123k
LTD:
DS - 53.265 mil
360 - 38.563 mil
PS3 - 23.856 mil
Wii - 41.002 mil
3DS - 8.048 mil
Vita - 1.350 mil
Wii U - 1.008 mil
EDIT: Made some slight adjustments.
EDIT2: And again.
Haha you're one of the people who hates on the stuff that "dudebro" gaming brings.
I don't really blame you for it, though you do tend to be vocal.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Did Fire Emblem do well? I have no idea what those numbers mean for that kind of game.
Yes it did really well. The last one in the US did 250K LTD and that was due to bargain bins. It seems like it being a million seller is likely.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I forget, does Microsoft count the Wii U in that percentage?
Spieler Eins
Member
Fire Emblem might have hit the right nerves with the current 3DS audience as Golden Sun did back in the day on GBA.
Aquamarine
Member
Yes those are very good numbers.
pieatorium
Member
There is an assumption that they are having similar problems transitioning to HD developement that alot of other developers had at the start of this gen.
Aaron Strife
Banned
ambientmystic
Member
Their HD growing pains were delayed, they're only feeling the brunt of it now, as compared to MS and Sony (and other big name 3rd party publishers who feature prominantly on their consoles) who were forced to deal with it years ago.
They're probably doing things now that they should have done many years ago, which is no doubt slowing down whatever transitional period they are in.
freefornow
Gold Member
Yeah, i can hear them now:
" What do you mean 1280 x 720????? What voodoo nonsense is this??"
Gamer @ Heart
Member
They have restructured some of their largest divisions and have hired hundreds over the past 2 years. Restructuring takes time, especially with the way they develop games which is very different than the independent hubs of western publishers.
Also, when they made their estimates last year, I don't think they expected to delay so much to summer, but that is what Nintendo does. Their second half is a total mystery.
They thought Nintendo Land would be Wii Sports 2 and Mario would sell millions and millions of copies, and consoles.
Phonomezer
Banned
They've been in the industry for decades, HD console gaming has been around for almost a decade, it really isn't an excuse.
Also LOL @ "Nintendo Ecosystem".
Spieler Eins
Member
Iwata even said they still had problems developing on the Wii U hardware until last summer. Then they have some GCN level handheld to support (which has already received a ridiculous amount of 1st party software, probably too much). They likely just handled the teams poorly, With a 2 year drought on Wii, except late localizations, we should swim in WiiU announcements and not wait 6 more months for the cross gen developed Pikmin. Thankfully just slapping some New Mario cash in on this thing didn't work and now they finally need to get their shit together quickly.
Aquamarine
Member
386,908 as of March 10th. PS3 only.
pieatorium
Member
~400k after 3 weeks
ambientmystic
Member
As of last weeks MediaCreate:-
12./08. [PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance # <ACT> (Konami) {2013.02.21} (¥6.980) - 17.833 / 386.908 (-70%)
386,908 or 411,585 so far, depending on whether you go by Media Create or Famitsu numbers respectively (launch week numbers being 308,681 and 335,791).
RobbieNick
Junior Member
A price cut and a major title like Mario Galaxy 3 would help a lot. Worked for the 3DS.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Really? Sweet! Great, that's great. Fire Emblem is back baby
Wii U is in dire straits and the next gen machines from MS and Sony are not even out yet.
Technologically dated as it stands and a severe lack of games and third party support running away before the competition releases?
Won't take much for it to be classified as dead, GameCube / N64 numbers are looking good to Nintendo now for this thing.
Technologically dated as it stands and a severe lack of games and third party support running away before the competition releases?
Won't take much for it to be classified as dead, GameCube / N64 numbers are looking good to Nintendo now for this thing.
AranhaHunter
Banned
I play the game everyday, so that's going to color my view on it. But to me, it's much higher quality and fuller in content than the $20 Brain Age 1/2 games, so expecting it to only sell for $10, just because of the existence of iOS games is like saying all 2-D games should all be $20 or less downloadable titles. It completely ignores what's gone into the game to make it what it is. I'm gaining, what is to me, significant worth from playing it everyday, as well, so that adds to its worth, in my view, too.
Does the market agree? Obviously, not. But just saying "It should've only been $10" coming from someone, who I seriously doubt has played the game (if for no other reason than by looking at the sales
That's my reasoning, at least.
Thanks for your reply and I do understand what you are saying, you are vested in the game and probably really enjoy it so your opinion may be a little clouded as you readily admit. We have to see this as business though. What you are saying is true, BA does offer more content than your basic $.99 iOS Brain Training game. However, market has dictated that those types of games will not sell for $29.99, not even for $19.99. I don't know how much it cost Nintendo to make BA, or Sony to make Smart As, but those games should have been released for $9.99 DD only. If that's not enough to make a profit on the product, then cut the content and release new DLC/IAP.
The casuals are not going to pay premium for these types of games and there's nothing we can do about it. It's not a matter of whether you want or enjoy a game in a series, it's about making profit. Brain Age went from being a multi million seller to barely outselling the port of a port of a port on a "dead" platform. It did better in Japan (~200k LTD?), but it's still a steep decline over previous iterations. It doesn't make any business sense to keep releasing BA games if that's the type of sales that it's gonna get. Unless you are ok with the series becoming extremely niche, then, IMO, you should be wanting and hoping that the next iteration is a DD only game for ~$9.99.
Seems to be spot on. Glad we got something this month. Depending on the GOWs, especially since the Sony one has a hot red bundle and is advertising it pretty heavily, and how Infinite affects sales, the numbers could be REALLY close next month. Will be interesting to watch.
PS3 version < 94K
If PS3 version = 94K then Vita version = 15K (CS said PS3 version was 86% of total sales IIRC)
So
95K < Sly 4 < 109K
Somehow that seems off. At the very least Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance isn't Metal Gear Solid. A shooter isn't normally a brawler and so forth.
Not bad.
I can almost see that happening. Given Dragon's Dogma After Dark and Lost Planet 3 are still happening. In too deep to reverse course.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
I'll gladly take GameCube numbers at this point.
At least it isn't the Vita. How the hell that machine is still going I'll never know.