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Fighting Games Weekly | July 29 - August 4 | Obey your thirst
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Ragingnight
Member
imagine if all/most of the companies pulled out of the FGC.
The salt would be glorious.
The salt would be glorious.
gigantor21
Member
God, he is such an unlikable dickweasel. It's hilarious. XD
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Also make sure to disable 3D backgrounds; that helped my FPS out a lot.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Just got some pretty horrible news, in regards and follow up to this whole drama fiasco.
Sadly, I can't say any details, but the course of actions over the past week have dramatically damaged relationships between the FGC and potential big future opportunities.
This is a time where organizers and high-level players choose whether or not we want to grow up, or stay the same extreme minority for the coming future. Really wish I could talk about stuff but it'll probably come out eventually.
edit: and for the naysayers, this has no effect on myself in any way.
Sadly, I can't say any details, but the course of actions over the past week have dramatically damaged relationships between the FGC and potential big future opportunities.
This is a time where organizers and high-level players choose whether or not we want to grow up, or stay the same extreme minority for the coming future. Really wish I could talk about stuff but it'll probably come out eventually.
edit: and for the naysayers, this has no effect on myself in any way.
Leak it.
Seriously though expected this to happen. Have to be more professional once money is involved. Some people haven't got that yet.
Are we talking opportunities with external parties investing into the FGC? Or existing relationships breaking down?
Uh oh.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Both. People are extremely pissed regarding the behavior in question.
Ragingnight
Member
ironically, if you don't say what it is or it gets reveal in some way, people will say "stop making stuff up."
People need to see what they lost before they can actually understand what the fuck they did wrong. You think any of the top players reading Max's post are going to be like "O GOD WE GOTTA CHANGE OUR WAYS!"?
Now tell them that capcom pulled capcom cup, no more new fighting games/patches. Zero chance of MLG picking up fighting games. Now lets see where that goes. If that ever happens, they better start learning how to play LoL.
People need to see what they lost before they can actually understand what the fuck they did wrong. You think any of the top players reading Max's post are going to be like "O GOD WE GOTTA CHANGE OUR WAYS!"?
Now tell them that capcom pulled capcom cup, no more new fighting games/patches. Zero chance of MLG picking up fighting games. Now lets see where that goes. If that ever happens, they better start learning how to play LoL.
I have a feeling this involves WGC.
Thanks for the heads up though, Max. Hope it works itself out though.
EDIT: Beaten.
darkblade77
Member
Yeah, this is a big point if you're running an older machine--swapping to 2D backgrounds helps out quite a bit.
gigantor21
Member
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
There's a reason I would post it here, and not directed at the top players. As folks like the ones that frequent these forums are the ones that have a similar interest as I. And it's you who could be directly affected by what's happening.
Passive Assassin
Member
Some men want to watch the world burn.
Karsticles
Member
Since I'm not big on cock-teases: do you know when this will come to light?
No Marvel patch? :-(
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Pretty sure this has something to do with the Capcom Cup.
Would make sense since the Marvel part of that is invitational only.
Maybe they can still run it but only invite a bunch of goober OmGiTzAndres to play.
darkblade77
Member
This is starting to make me wonder about timelines and if there was more behind why Markman led the topic with that announcement when he did. In any case, it sounds like a shame. Thanks for letting us know.
SolarPowered
Member
I didn't know this was a thing until I checked Steam today. Looks like a store page is finally up. They took some great shots and made a nice trailer.
The best part is how pretty the 2D stages look. I honestly think the 2D Medici Tower is one of my top three favorite stages. The billboards and signs pop out a lot more than in the 3D version.
Don't even go there.
I didn't even know about it till I got to this post having just gotten home. First that nonsense collusion stuff and now this?! My heart can't take it.
It just seems a bit short-sighted of Capcom to have not worked harder with Marvel to make MVC3 a bigger phenomenon... it's like one of the best selling Marvel games this gen, right? If they had worked out a better contract or plan or something, the game might have amounted to something bigger than it is. Like, it's kind of crazy to think they put in all this work and money and now the game and team behind it is essentially dead (especially when you look at how SF4 is still going strong).
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
And all we hope for as it does is from the ashes something better comes.
Ragingnight
Member
understandable. But to be honest, I don't think it really affects us. I mean do the stream viewers of LoL get affected in reality if some scandal happens in LoL? Sponsors don't affect the 99% of players and stream viewers. When sponsors pull out it only really affects 1) top players 2) TOs 3) Streamer that rely on streaming big events.
Passive Assassin
Member
Triforce's dream is coming true. THE TROLLS AND THE FGC MUST DIE!
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
I think you're thinking way too small here, regarding sponsors and TO's.
Karsticles
Member
What could affect us, but not Max?
If you're going to give little hints here and there to tease the info, please just say it.
CrazyTank940
Member
Well the netcode is very iffy. It's not the worst thing out there (I have gotten a small amount of great matches) but it's mostly crap.
Holy crap lolHas this been posted? Saw it just now and just about lost my soul laughing:
I always thought that was a funny sounding insult, dickweasel.
So I'm guessing this is something to be on the lookout for at some point, thanks for the heads up
When MvC3 DLC turned into UMvC3, Capcom lost it's second release on the license.
UMvC3 could've been what it is with more, akin to a SSFIV release if it had that extra dev time. Shit, there might've been even a third game if UMvC3 did well and they decided to skip out on MvC:O.
They invested a decent amount into UMvC3 if you consider the dev time and the amount of coordination with Marvel that went in.
You can't just ask someone to leak something and then chastise the scene for not being more professional in the same post.
Capcom probably underestimated UMVC3's staying power after the initial performance of UMVC3. They probably thought the game would get one good EVO and people will just stop playing it much so they opted for a Marvel Origins release over 3rd expansion (a decision that even I would've made if I were in their shoes). Well that didn't happen, this year's crazy EVO happened and it got peopled riled up again. The game is pretty much locked for next year's EVO.
And I have to imagine that Marvel probably watches EVO too. What are they feeling when Zero is zapping all their characters to oblivion? How do they feel that their biggest star right now, Iron Man, is considered a non tournament viable character?
I think Capcom probably regrets the terms of the contract but with the bad shape they are in they can't really afford to re-negotiate another contract. I am pretty sure the license has gone up a lot since they first talked to Marvel for MVC3... I mean Avengers happened between that time. It's probably not worth the return of investment to re-negotiate a contract for even an expansion much less a standard balance patch.
Besides, it seems like most of their work force is shifted to mobile games... LMAO!
Ragingnight
Member
I really don't see it. Worst case scenario, Capcom abandons fighting games (Again).
I played 3s, and mvc2 for 10 years . There are a millions of other games and other companes that will make fighting games. Yeah it sucks that I won't get to play an updated game but when your a gamer and there are millions of other games to play, losing one or two games don't really matter in the long run.
It does hamper the growth of the FGC, but if people at the top want to piss away at the growth then why should I care anymore?
irfaanator
Banned
don't you know max is part of the board so he'll be fine i guess. I'm still calling it, fanfic is coming true but not as gruesome.
SloaneRisette
Member
It's soooooo great how the few at the top ruin it for everyone else.
Not.
Talked about this a bit with my dad since he's now starting to get (slightly) more into the FGC since Evo. He said that all tournaments should be random select the whole way through.
That doesn't sound like such a bad idea almost.
Not.
Talked about this a bit with my dad since he's now starting to get (slightly) more into the FGC since Evo. He said that all tournaments should be random select the whole way through.
That doesn't sound like such a bad idea almost.
Lambda Pie
Banned
Kinect detects collusion by reading lips.
"yo, i'm da king, Chris, imma gonna pick Rog."
Xbox Off.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Sloth speaks truth. It's more of a word of caution, for people that enjoy fighting games, and especially those with exemplary behavior on live-airtime playing them.
My focus has always been about the games, not so much directly the people playing them or surrounding drama. So my hopes with posting this, is the surrounding community around this stuff to be aware at how much it could affect the future of what we love.
i was boiling with hate but decided to not say anything else.
Ragingnight
Member
The problem is, others have been saying the same thing for a long time now. I don't even remember when spooky gave his whole speech about it. Valle has done the same as well in the past. Nothing has changed despite their warnings.
Karsticles
Member
The BoFVI thread has made me think about typing many things that would get me banned. iOS defenders...
That's a horrible idea.
Tell me this Max: will this directly affect the games themselves, or just events for those games?
I think the Spooky speech was after Final Round.
Ragingnight
Member
He has mention it before, long time ago before the Final Round incident as well. The Final Round incident was the last one before yesterday.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
I do see where you're coming from, but now is the part where we need a shred of faith that people in power (Organizers/Top Players) set examples, especially on behavior and respect for the viewers/audience watching. The audiences watching aren't just stream monsters anymore, especially if something makes front page news Kotaku and is on other feeds all the time.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
God damn it Max you are scaring me...
Sorry Dahbomb. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 GAF Edition was so close to making cert
SloaneRisette
Member
Just note this comes from a person who has only really watched my pools matches and all of the Top 8s at Evo this year