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nib95 · Sep 17, 2013

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900p (1600 x 900) upscaled to 1080p (1920 x 1080).

Confirmed now is Forza 5 at 1080p/60fps, Ryse at 900p/30fps, Killer Instinct at 720p/60fps and unconfirmed is Dead Rising supposedly having a dynamic resolution at 30fps.

Clarification of resolutions.

nib95 said:
720p | 1280 x 720 | 921,600 pixels
900p | 1600 x 900 | 1,440,000 pixels - 56% more pixels than 720p
1080p | 1920 x 1080 | 2,073,600 pixels - 125% more pixels than 720p, 44% more pixels than 900p

For kicks.

wapplew said:
1080-900=180

Xbox 180 confirm.

ReturnOfTheRAT · Sep 17, 2013

Interesting to say the least.

Chuck · Sep 17, 2013

-COOLIO- · Sep 17, 2013

close enough.

NSider · Sep 17, 2013

"Xbox One upscales everything to 1080p and they look amazing". lol

KaptinKeezey · Sep 17, 2013

But has he seen Titan Fall?

Whiteshirt · Sep 17, 2013

Goddamn it, after 8 years we still can't get 1080 native.

Gemüsepizza · Sep 17, 2013

That's 1600x900, right? Not really impressive at 30fps... For comparison: 1920x1080 has 44% more pixels...

squidyj · Sep 17, 2013

That's a shame, I hope it doesn't become a trend.

Whiteshirt said:
Goddamn it, after 8 years we still can't get 1080 native.

sure we can, just not from this game.

kpaadet · Sep 17, 2013

That's a bummer.

Jawbreaker · Sep 17, 2013

I guess that makes the bullshots a little harder to swallow. It's unfortunate since the game otherwise looks good.

TheLegendOfMart · Sep 17, 2013

This shouldn't matter much should it?

Can they use display planes to render game UIs at 1080p and 3d resolution lower?

squidyj said:
sure we can, just not from this console.

ftfy

puebla · Sep 17, 2013

squidyj said:
That's a shame, I hope it doesn't become a trend.

sure we can, just not from this game.

get used to it, both consoles are weak.

i HeaR MusiC · Sep 17, 2013

All of this resolution talk means barely anything to me on my 32in gaming TV lol. Highly doubt i'll notice the difference between 900p and 1080p.

Valnen · Sep 17, 2013

Does PS4 have a scaler chip too? Would be nice because I game on a PC monitor and they don't really do scaling.

Aussie Legend · Sep 17, 2013

Oh this just keeps getting better, this really is Lair 2.0 isn't it XD

NEO0MJ · Sep 17, 2013

Gemüsepizza;82266105 said:
That's 1600x900, right? Not really impressive at 30fps... For comparison: 1920x1080 has 44% more pixels...

You still have the feel of 1080p.

SenjutsuSage · Sep 17, 2013

Doesn't matter, game still looks incredible. As I said in the other thread, now I'm not as concerned that everything I was seeing was running on a high end pc, and thus would possibly not be representative of the actual game.

malboroking said:
I can tell this thread is going to go places.

Horrible, horrible places =P

Yea, the real hardcore console warriors will come out in force.

Ricerocket · Sep 17, 2013

Hrmm.. well so much for the legitimacy of those 1080p shots.

Parapraxis · Sep 17, 2013

malboroking said:
I can tell this thread is going to go places.

Horrible, horrible places =P

Yup, gonna be deep down & dirty.

Spongebob · Sep 17, 2013

You'll see this a lot with the Xbone so MS can get there games close to PS4 exclusives (poly/effect wise).

shwimpy · Sep 17, 2013

Dynamic resolution? the hell?!

Artorias · Sep 17, 2013

Honestly, it was nice of him to tell the truth.

I know that shouldn't be applauded but after these last few months of lies and FUD its decent of him to clarify this before release rather than ignore it until its thrown in their faces.

Kusagari · Sep 17, 2013

Upscaling thanks to the power of the Cloud.

xaosslug · Sep 17, 2013

nib95 said:
unconfirmed is Dead Rising supposedly having a dynamic resolution.

the hell is that?

Recall · Sep 17, 2013

squidyj said:
That's a shame, I hope it doesn't become a trend.

This gen we already had sub 720p on quite a few big AAA games so in the early days of the consoles life 900p will be far more frequent.

immortal-joe · Sep 17, 2013

Got to focus on dat image quality for promotional screenshots, resolutions and framerate be damned. This gen made that all too obvious.

Dukey · Sep 17, 2013

I imagine this is how many games on PS4/Xbox One are going to hit a solid 30 or 60 FPS next gen.

Parapraxis · Sep 17, 2013

i HeaR MusiC said:
All of this resolution talk means barely anything to me on my 32in gaming TV lol. Highly doubt i'll notice the difference between 900p and 1080p.

I like your approach.

Tagyhag · Sep 17, 2013

Man that's pretty crazy, It should at very least run well.

Funny side note: I remember back when people though there was no real difference between native and upscaled and now it's all the rage, oh how times change.

$h@d0w · Sep 17, 2013

Recall said:
This gen we already had sub 720p on quite a few big AAA games so in the early days of the consoles life 900p will be far more frequent.

frequent on xbox one

malboroking · Sep 17, 2013

Well, we've already got both "have you seen Titanfall" and "power of the cloud". I think we can wrap this one up folks.

jediyoshi · Sep 17, 2013

i HeaR MusiC said:
All of this resolution talk means barely anything to me on my 32in gaming TV lol. Highly doubt i'll notice the difference between 900p and 1080p.

Depends on thangs. On my desktop 27", 900p vs 1080p is pretty blatant

dmix90 · Sep 17, 2013

i HeaR MusiC said:
All of this resolution talk means barely anything to me on my 32in gaming TV lol. Highly doubt i'll notice the difference between 900p and 1080p.

I don't know how you cannot notice that really. Blurry mess

hawk2025 · Sep 17, 2013

SenjutsuSage said:
Doesn't matter, game still looks incredible. As I said in the other thread, now I'm not as concerned that everything I was seeing was running on a high end pc, and thus would possibly not be representative of the actual game.

It does look incredible.

But yes, it matters. It's a lower resolution, of course it matters.

Hydrargyrus · Sep 17, 2013

Ooooh god.

A shit storm is coming

Kaako · Sep 17, 2013

This is wonderful news! Hope more devs use this nifty technique and just upscale to 1080p.

malboroking · Sep 17, 2013

xaosslug said:
the hell is that?

Wipeout on Vita had a dynamic resolution, and that game looked awesome.

Spongebob · Sep 17, 2013

KI 720P and now Ryse 900p...

ReturnOfTheRAT · Sep 17, 2013

shwimpy said:
Dynamic resolution? the hell?!

You know exactly what it means.

dragonelite · Sep 17, 2013

Fuck next gen gaming when 1080p is even too much to ask for gaming. Fucking bait and switch.

Recall · Sep 17, 2013

$h@d0w said:
frequent on xbox one

You don't know what the PS4 will do either. Will it be upscaled also? You will have to wait and see.

mavs · Sep 17, 2013

malboroking said:
Wipeout on Vita had a dynamic resolution, and that game looked awesome.

Wipeout on PS3 did too, everyone knows that game is awesome. Couldn't tell you if dynamic resolution made it any better though.

$h@d0w · Sep 17, 2013

malboroking said:
Wipeout on Vita had a dynamic resolution, and that game looked awesome.

So does Killzone Mercenary - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-inside-killzone-mercenary

polyh3dron · Sep 17, 2013

I upscale NES games to 1080p and THEY look "amazing"

Iced_Eagle · Sep 17, 2013

xaosslug said:
the hell is that?

I don't know why you're laughing... A couple of games have used it already.

Basically it scales up/down the framebuffer resolution depending on frame rate. If you're below a threshold, it will render the game at a lower resolution. If it starts performing better, it will scale it back up.

Off the top of my head I know that Doom 3 and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 both have dynamic resolution.

Spongebob said:
KI 720P and now Ryse 900p...

I'm pretty sure you won't find many people arguing that in a fighting game, frame rate > resolution. It's always better to have a higher resolution, but maintaining 60fps is key.

I've seen Ryse in person at E3. It looked gorgeous. This is the start of the gen, so I'm okay with 900p. Hell, that's a higher resolution than most of the big games we're getting on our current systems, and I still think games like The Last of Us looked pretty. Just like current gen, once devs learn the ins and outs of the hardware, they'll be able to pull off more graphical tricks.

nib95 · Sep 17, 2013

shwimpy said:
Dynamic resolution? the hell?!

Means the resolution changes depending on what's going on or how resource intensive the particular scene or segment is in order to keep the frame rate stable. Eg, if there's lots going on (loads of zombies on screen or mass carnage) it could drop to say 720p, but other times run at 1080p or less.

RaySpencer · Sep 17, 2013

jediyoshi said:
Depends on thangs. On my desktop 27", 900p vs 1080p is pretty blatant

Im going to assume you sit a LOT closer to your 27" desktop monitor though.

Chance Hale · Sep 17, 2013

Aussie Legend said:
Oh this just keeps getting better, this really is Lair 2.0 isn't it XD

What does that mean? Not really? Lair wasn't a launch title and its issues were due to the forced motion control scheme. It was at the very least a pioneer in audio, think it was the first 7.1 game.

KoopaTheCasual · Sep 17, 2013

This thread will be all fun and roses and will surely not exceed 20 pages. Surely, right?!

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