This always seemed liked the bigger issue if it was true, but it did get lost in the shuffle.
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Xbox One Kinect and Gameplay Video (UI stuff)
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3rdamention
Member
The day we see the OS functioning seamlesss and fast, this rumor drops?
mingoguaya
Member
I bet this is fixed (almost all of it, anyway) by launch. Microsoft is a software company, launching what is their second biggest product of the year (behind W8.1), there is no way they will not have this ready by launch (or as part of the initial X1 update).
The problem isn't the fact that there are issues with connectivity for the OS and the XBL service. It's completely normal they are working on a different approach compared to the original one and certainly there must be a lot of debugging and testing in order for it to work on day one.
However, what should be the problem here is the fact that MS can't afford time. Launch is soon and if things are not fixed by launch, that may create an uproar for clients.
However, what should be the problem here is the fact that MS can't afford time. Launch is soon and if things are not fixed by launch, that may create an uproar for clients.
AlanzTalon
Member
Meh. The games work, it seems.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Just read it
Appreciate the info, thanks .
However, no need for that sort of major hyping on twitter from certain folks. Just no need at all and in fact it puts a doubt as to what info will be delivered in future if this is the routine.
It's disappointing to read about the OS and shame on MS but come on the hype did not justify this.
Appreciate the info, thanks .
However, no need for that sort of major hyping on twitter from certain folks. Just no need at all and in fact it puts a doubt as to what info will be delivered in future if this is the routine.
It's disappointing to read about the OS and shame on MS but come on the hype did not justify this.
CaptainSlow
Member
That's it? Xbox Live server issues pre-launch? Wake me up when XBL doesn't work on launch day THEN I'll hit the meltdown button.
That can't be true? Why would they do this?
I'm a Sony guy but I'm not fucking stupid, the Xbox did this "better" - it was clever. The PS3's method was messy and not integrated.
I find this kinda hard to believe it's so crazy and I'm only a portion down the article. That's totally weird / madness.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Sorry but this is nowhere near the hype that was created.
Derpcrawler
Member
2/10, would not read again. Hype killed.
Wait until you get your console and you won't be able to play games online for more than 5 min without crashing and loosing voip connections.
MORTALIS
Member
Early adopter. You play you pay.
Derpcrawler
Member
You know the saying? Don't fix what is not broken. MS seem to do exactly this, Win7 to Win8 and now X360 to X1.
cripterion
Member
All this insider stuff is getting a bit silly imo. I know, he knows, she said, he said... I know some readers get a kick out of this though. I'd understand if we had a RROD 2.0 situation, get this info to the masses asap cause that would be some game breaking shit.
And shaking my head at the people especting a Megaton, like a delay or hardware failure. How does that benefit you?
All in all, I'm ,not saying I won't be bothered if all this stuff turns out to be true come launch, you usually expect to buy a product with features advertised working off the bat.
And shaking my head at the people especting a Megaton, like a delay or hardware failure. How does that benefit you?
All in all, I'm ,not saying I won't be bothered if all this stuff turns out to be true come launch, you usually expect to buy a product with features advertised working off the bat.
I agree but the issue here is not with the network necessarly, it's with the OS which is worse.
OK so back to the UI. I wonder how notifications will work. Specifically, what kind of notifications can you set to be able to get? I've been watching sports nonstop tonight, what can I set with my friends? What about actual sport notifications while watching other games that allow me to jump to the other channel?
SlowRevolution
Member
Launch week sure. Mort's blog is talking about the possibility of things being screwed up for months.
Xbox Live not working isn't that bad?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The issues at work here are more severe aside from the network functioning. The other thread is discussing this more though.
Still potential to piss off a lot of customers at launch if multi-player has issues considering it's launching nearly concurrently with the two biggest muliti-player games of the year. But tough to tell the impact without seeing what the actual experience is like once they deliver the day one patch. This console has taken a lot of abuse considering no one actually has one yet to complain about.
What's more interesting to me is the issue raised by the VOIP stuff getting designed without an understanding of how and why it currently worked the way it does on the 360. After the re-org isn't the Xbox division now part of the OS group? I wonder if that means we're more or less likely to see issues like this crop up. One would think the move to a unified OS platform makes managing this stuff across so many products a lot more complicated given the extra variables you have to account for and the impact that has on complicating designs vs a dedicated device function.
What's more interesting to me is the issue raised by the VOIP stuff getting designed without an understanding of how and why it currently worked the way it does on the 360. After the re-org isn't the Xbox division now part of the OS group? I wonder if that means we're more or less likely to see issues like this crop up. One would think the move to a unified OS platform makes managing this stuff across so many products a lot more complicated given the extra variables you have to account for and the impact that has on complicating designs vs a dedicated device function.
This is the 3'rd or 4'th time I've seen an article / journalist / comment of sorts online, seemingly claim that the remaining management of Microsoft / Xbox division have no fucking clue about gaming.
Not that they are bad directly, not that it's deliberate - but that people making decisions are simply not gamers, don't get gaming and are kind of ... well clueless.
I dunno how much merit there is to these claims but they keep on coming up!
Not that they are bad directly, not that it's deliberate - but that people making decisions are simply not gamers, don't get gaming and are kind of ... well clueless.
I dunno how much merit there is to these claims but they keep on coming up!
Thaumaturgic Tomato
Member
That's fine. I'll just play in offline m.. oh. Ah well, gotta tend to the tomato garden anyway. Little sunshine sounds good.
Do you expect there will be great car art for Forza day 1?
Sinthor
Gold Member
Well, the video looks real. I'm not personally real excited about the new features of the XB1 but this is a good ad and shows some cool stuff. Definitely a good, short walkthrough of the new capabilities they'll be marketing the machine for! Good job.
This. If Skype is handling party + VoIP, why would games need to implement their own?
It sounds like Mortimer getting bad tips or something lost in translation.
Yeah, the only thing I can think of that games might have to be involved with in regards to parties are if the player is in a party(in case certain playlists should be off limits) and who the player is in a party with(so as to matchmake all players with each other). So strange that a robust standard was not designed from the get go.
soundscream
Member
Well, no its not real. What they do have is the smart match thing that finds a match and notifies you when your set to play. Hopefully we see it actually working soon.
That footage is from the TitanFall trailer, of course it's not "real"
SenjutsuSage
Banned
You're imagining things.
But, seriously, the exaggerated negative news for the Xbox One has reached ridiculous levels now. It's already weaker. What, are people suppose to now fear the system? Be very afraid? Don't even think about purchasing one around the holidays? What is the point? it's kind of nuts. So, there are possible early launch issues that will need to be ironed out. When hasn't the Xbox Live team taken care of problems?
If you're paying for Xbox Live though then that's pretty damn bad.
ionicbluebird
Member
Microsoft is really missing the boat putting Skype behind a paywall.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
This may not be popular, but I don't think Microsoft are complete idiots. Whatever the problems may be, if there are any on a big enough scale to begin with, they will sort them out. This isn't a reason to be worried about your Xbox One purchase if you're getting the system.
The Maverick
Member
There is no reason to have confidence in Microsoft at the moment. Do you ever not defend them?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Do people like you ever not attempt to exaggerate or blow things out of proportion just to have another apocalyptic doomsday story you can run into the ground regarding the system? Seriously, does it make any sense for people to go out of their way, with what seems like every other day now, to scare people about the prospect of buying an Xbox One? Is this what it has really come to? Scaring people? I especially find it a riot how innocent people try to act, almost as if they're somehow conflicted about what they're doing. Listen, people aren't stupid. Some will love this kind of crap, and eat it right up, but then others will see it for what it truly is. It looks opportunistic and petty. Some people just want to see a disaster, a trainwreck in the making, and will do whatever, say whatever they can to contribute to that cause. It may sound harsh, but that's what I see.
Microsoft releases a great looking video of the Xbox One OS/UI in action with Kinect, and almost immediately there's a rumor attacking that aspect of the system. It's not really a major surprise that something like this was brewing, because the UI/OS for this system has always looked and sounded particularly impressive. This video only served to help drive that point home. And with perfect timing something specifically designed to target it and tear it down is released, and nobody is going to say to themselves, "Now wait just a minute here. Doesn't this all seem a little too convenient?" Xbox One reveal: the OS and the way it worked was one of the most amazing things shown. The response? It was all fake, doesn't exist. Not real. It's vaporware. it's all a smoke and mirrors campaign. Or, even if they do, it doesn't work as nicely as shown. Family Sharing aspect of previous xbox one policy sounds pretty cool, many people like it, one of the few bright spots nobody could attack? Oh, wait, random online post out of nowhere from a no doubt fake MS employee claiming it was a demo, which it absolutely was not, and people eat it up, because it feeds right into that nothing at all could possibly be good about the xbox one narrative.
Microsoft may have some issues at launch, but is that really suppose to be a shock to anyone? People, people, people. We had "insiders" on here claiming that the fact that the Xbox One even attempts to run games in 1080p at all would send the OS crashing and failing. I mean, I'm sorry, but if that doesn't send your bullshit detector flying off the charts, then something has gone seriously wrong. Microsoft, as we all know from time to time, can be incompetent enough as it is on their own. They don't need extra help in the form of absolutely bogus and boneheaded falsehoods designed to scare the living shit out of people who may be, for their own reasons, interested in, or already committed to picking up the system.
The Xbox Live team does amazing work, and has consistently done amazing work now for years. Their track record is an excellent one, even if there have been some bumps in the road along the way. Does anyone seriously believe that if there are any serious issues with the basic functions of the system, Microsoft will fail to fix them as quickly as possible? This is what they've done now for years. People call themselves gamers and yet are bizarrely celebrating at the prospect that a platform they don't like could fail, and it's pitiful. it really is. When are people going to start rooting for a healthy and competitive industry rather than rooting for failure, which may satisfy your most selfish desires, but is ultimately not good for anybody?
And, yes, as rare as it may be, there are times when I absolutely don't defend them. There are just times when I think the silliness takes center stage.