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I know that you can build a stronger Gaming PC, so he is right, but..... NVIDIA's "anti-console" BS lately is rather annoying.
They should start to STFU already. Show more class (which is better PR) and stop with the bitterness.
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NVIDIA: "No longer possible" for consoles to have better graphics than PC
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I know that you can build a stronger Gaming PC, so he is right, but..... NVIDIA's "anti-console" BS lately is rather annoying.
They should start to STFU already. Show more class (which is better PR) and stop with the bitterness.
Their statements have reeked of "PC MASTER RACE LOL" for some time now.
EDIT: There's a difference between saying "we offer a product for those who want the highest end graphics and performance" and "now look at those poor, underpowered consoles. The poor things, trying to be PCs, lol."
EDIT: There's a difference between saying "we offer a product for those who want the highest end graphics and performance" and "now look at those poor, underpowered consoles. The poor things, trying to be PCs, lol."
Yeah, let's take a link off of a PC gaming site and whine about PC hardware manufacturer letting people know that there is nothing to worry about.
Makes sense.
Oh, and like you said...he's right, so why is everyone so mad?
Wasn't the only time this may've really applied was perhaps the 8-bit through 32-bit days, and the former two ONLY by merit of smooth scrolling while the PC was capable of more colorful, detailed, and simply larger games? And 32-bit only because 3D was just starting to take off on PCs, by the time real 3D hardware was hitting PCs... well, it was practically a generational leap. Actually, even by software rendering the PC could match up with consoles well, Quake was quite impressive from a technical angle even if artistically it's more of a hideous charm at best.
EDIT: I suppose there is something to be said about specialized hardware and how that's more or less a non-factor on consoles now. But at some point pursuing that really isn't practical, ergo Cerny pushing so hard to move to x86 for PS4.
EDIT: I suppose there is something to be said about specialized hardware and how that's more or less a non-factor on consoles now. But at some point pursuing that really isn't practical, ergo Cerny pushing so hard to move to x86 for PS4.
iamshadowlark
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E3 maybe. But I think there were a few stunners at tgs this year.
cheezcake
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famousmortimer
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I don't know what the fuck he is talking about... there were always pc's that were more powerful than consoles when they launched. It was just a matter of how much money you were willing to pay.
It's not different now. You can drop a couple grand on 2 gpu's and another grand on a motherboard, ram, power supply and cpu and kick the fuck out of the ps4. But that's not exactly in a consumer friendly price range.
The PC will always be king when it comes to graphic fidelity, if you have the cash. Always has, always will. Well maybe not always will when we all have apple chips wired into our spines, but you know what i mean.
It's not different now. You can drop a couple grand on 2 gpu's and another grand on a motherboard, ram, power supply and cpu and kick the fuck out of the ps4. But that's not exactly in a consumer friendly price range.
The PC will always be king when it comes to graphic fidelity, if you have the cash. Always has, always will. Well maybe not always will when we all have apple chips wired into our spines, but you know what i mean.
Krusenstern
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Sky is blue.
Will buy a dedicated home console alongside my gaming PC anyway.
MrCunningham
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This wouldn't be anti-console BS if Nvidia were supplying hardware for the next generation consoles too. It's simple, their biggest competitor in the GPU field is supplying hardware for all three consoles and well... something something, salty, something something.
Read about that on Blue's yesterday, and it is definitely annoying. Nvidia has been shoveling this kind of stuff out for a while now. If you look at what they've been doing, it's obvious to see why they would be acting like this in such an aggressive manner. I'm under the impression that there really is no good PR for anyone, honestly.
Check their articles/interviews since the PS4/XBone reveal.
It's bitterness, bitterness, bitterness, flaming, flaming, flaming.
This here is a rather innocent interview, but after all their comments lately..... you know what they are trying to achieve here.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm happy with my GTX770. Doesn't change the fact that their anti-console BS is annoying as hell. Grow up (NVIDIA)!
ebullientprism
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When was it ever possible before?
Also whats with the Nvidia salt comments? Didnt they make money in their last report and AMD lose money?
nelsonroyale
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Sky is blue....
Still, devs can keep up....
Still, devs can keep up....
Well technically they're right. Their products are more powerful.
Aussie Legend
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Mmm... the salt runs deep (even if they are right lol)
thunder_snail
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LOL. Nvidia's getting desperate. They are suddenly trying to suck up to SteamOS/Linux (even tho they have the best drivers, their relations to Linux kernel community is pretty shitty) and trying to downplay consoles.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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OP sounds just as salty/bitter
andromeduck
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if they could sell consoles at $1000 right now i'm sure it'd be a completely diffrent story
Metalmurphy
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Is funny cause I think the gap of price/performance ratio is gonna be even bigger now then it was last gen.
iamshadowlark
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Oh the irony. But consoles margins suck.
And they have always been. They just didn't come up as looking down on consoles before.
MS dropped them and one gen later, SONY dropped them, too.
It's HELL to work with NVIDIA (wish I could find the old article from an ex-MS guy) and their stuff is overpriced. MS and SONY said FU to them.
And since then.... you hear one anti-console comment after another.
Bitter because? MS and SONY are laughing all their way to the bank.
AMD was the better deal for them (and AMD is happy).
Ohh wait now I'm REALLY paying attention to this.
Ok, Deus Ex hit months after the PS2 hit in Japan, and took years to come to PS2... but significantly compromised due to needing smaller stages, and it took the DC and PS2 to receive HL ports that were just ahead of PC and I think the ports ran at 30 FPS rather than 60 or anything, and HL was a game that hit right at the peak of the 32-bit generation (1998.) As noted it's a question of affordability, and perhaps you CAN get a closer PC to PS4/XB1 at $400 than you could have a $300 PC in 1995 or 2000, but in the end it's the same: PC leads the technical charge, consoles are the compromise between affordability and playability (nevermind the plug-and-play angle) for mainstream accessibility.
Frankly, I wonder if this guy paid any damn attention at that time. Though in the late 90s Voodoo was the big thing, PowerVR was relevant as a PC choice, and nVidia was just getting started with the Riva TNT line but only hit it big with GeForce which I believe hit AFTER PS2. Yeah, that'd skew their world view if they weren't digging up information in preparation.
Ok, Deus Ex hit months after the PS2 hit in Japan, and took years to come to PS2... but significantly compromised due to needing smaller stages, and it took the DC and PS2 to receive HL ports that were just ahead of PC and I think the ports ran at 30 FPS rather than 60 or anything, and HL was a game that hit right at the peak of the 32-bit generation (1998.) As noted it's a question of affordability, and perhaps you CAN get a closer PC to PS4/XB1 at $400 than you could have a $300 PC in 1995 or 2000, but in the end it's the same: PC leads the technical charge, consoles are the compromise between affordability and playability (nevermind the plug-and-play angle) for mainstream accessibility.
Frankly, I wonder if this guy paid any damn attention at that time. Though in the late 90s Voodoo was the big thing, PowerVR was relevant as a PC choice, and nVidia was just getting started with the Riva TNT line but only hit it big with GeForce which I believe hit AFTER PS2. Yeah, that'd skew their world view if they weren't digging up information in preparation.
CaptainGyro
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You guys don't use the word salt nearly enough
amstradcpc
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Well, and a bad news Nvidia, like all the next gen games will be developed primarily on consoles based on AMD tech the PC versions of these games will work better with an AMD architecture.
That is not even close to true.
Nvidia has lots of dev influence and has a bigger market share than AMD, they will not be left in the cold.
amstradcpc
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Could not be true. But is very logical.
I'm curious to know how much money nVidia are making out of the mobile market.
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