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Headscratchers in otherwise great games
- Thread starter CloudWolf
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MAtgS
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Are you fucking serious? Did GF not playtest this game at all?
How? It's not a platformer. And heck, most of the 3D games really don't have a good button available for it.
How about this: Megaman X5!
Great game, aside from some bad design decisions with bosses, but....
In X5 you can play two characters: X and Zero. The head-scratcher is that boss weapons and health upgrades aren't shared between the two, which makes the game much harder if you try to use both of them!
It's a Megaman game, so beating a boss gives you a nice new weapon, which can then be used to beat other bosses and help out in stages. You can also collect health upgrades as well. But these weapon and health upgrades only go to the character you got them. As a result, if you try to use both characters, you end up gimping both of them! God help you for the final boss rush if you're missing subweapons!
And actually, on top of that, Zero's upgrades are actually instrumental to how he plays in general; he gets double jumps and air dashes and what not, similar to how armors give X similar upgrades.
To top it off, you have to select a character to play the opening stage with; the character you don't select get's gimped. (Zero looses his buster and X looses his Force Armor.)
It's really the silliest thing: Why let us play as both at the same time if it ends up sabotaging us? (And making the characters less fun to play as!)
V is definitely better, but when I say UI, I don't mean just the looks, but how it functions. GTA V's whole UI system for getting into an online game is convoluted.
Darkest_Templar
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Don't forget... Bug could also counter Psychics in gen 1 too...
But their only moves were Twin needle, pin missile, and leech life (all weak as hell)...
Only learn-able by trash like Beedrill (also part poison too)...
Yeah, I'm gonna pack my Beedrill tech versus Zam & Mewtwo (GameFreak plz)...
The final boss in Blackthorne. He was the only boss in the whole game and Blackthorne himself was pretty sluggish already control wise which fit the rest of the game. Then all of a sudden this boss comes around and is incredibly fast, the whole room is a danger zone and you have to readjust how you play the game (which could be by ducking, which you rarely use at all during the game) to beat a rather difficult boss. He isn't so bad once you figure him out, but it was bullshit how the game expected you to adjust to this boss right away. There are a few people I know that never beat the game because of that boss.
Plus because special hadn't been split yet all psychic Pokemon were able to do a ton of damage and take none from any type unfortunate enough to need special. Plus all the other stuff mentioned already like ghost immunity and useless bug type moves meaning your Jolteon better have pin missile or you're just totally boned.
I hate Bayonetta's turret boss way more than the Hang-On/Space Harrier tribute sections people more commonly complain about.
ArkhamFantasy
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Bravely Default is by far the worst offender here.
Recently Dark Souls 3's camera/lock on breaking was really frustrating. The lock on shouldnt disengage unless i disengage it. There was a boss that would break my lock on, get out of camera view, then attack me.
Recently Dark Souls 3's camera/lock on breaking was really frustrating. The lock on shouldnt disengage unless i disengage it. There was a boss that would break my lock on, get out of camera view, then attack me.
Lys Skygge
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Seriously the worst thing to come from the series. Extremely uninspired, repetitive, and boring.
The one part I hated in The Last of Us was the sniper section. I was fine with sneaking up to the sniper and taking him out, but having to provide cover fire for your group felt really "gamey" and took me out of the moment. It felt last minute and slapped together. It was like I was playing an arcade game without the lite gun.
Zeus The Dino
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Zeus The Dino
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Who ever knows? With the mess of Halo 4, MCC, and 5. I believe there brains aren't on straight.
The hours long intro to Persona 4. I love it and was super engaged the first time through, but the first replay I did made me realise that if you were looking for, you know, a video game this could be a huge turn off. Especially since it could be cut down considerably and not change the plot in any significant way.
CircleOfFire
Member
Yes, I'd virtually blocked that from my mind, loading screen before a menu so that it can show part of the world in the background being one of my faves.
BinaryPork2737
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Don't forget the other nonsensical learnsets. Sure, Charizard might have been able to learn Fly in Yellow, but Dragonite couldn't learn that move until gen 2. Dragonite can't even learn a flying type move in gen 1, despite being half-flying type.
Doduo, meanwhile, can whirl its neck around like a helicopter and learn Fly.
afreaknamedpete
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I have really mixed feelings about this one. In Bloodborne I cannot count the number of times I died when my forward dodge roll accidentally became a jump. There's a ton of times in the game when you have to convert your dash into a roll and instead just jump for joy. I really wanted a button on L3.
On the flip side, pressing L3 often jostles the directional input, and the Dualshock's left stick is pretty sensitive. I've died a bunch in Dark Souls 3 from jumps careening off at an angle. There was one particular jump in the final level that took me like seven tries because I kept messing off the angle. I never had a problem with getting Jumps to come out when it was tied to the O button, so it felt alot more like the controls are killing me than my own timing or judgment.
I think part of the reason they kept switching the jump command seems to be a desperation for more buttons or something.