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Star Wars THE FORCE UNLEASHED 2 |OT| You can use TWO lightsabers now

Forkball said:
Canon, lol

Also:

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It's obviously Gorbush Thriftweed, but what is this from?


edit: just found out he's a skin in the game. might purchase now.
 

A.R.K

Member
alterno69 said:
Nice OT, the demo was ok, if it had move support i wouldn't hesitate but as it is now i'll pass. Seems like a big improvement over the first tho.

Me too. Such a wasted opportunity for a MOVE game. I hope they patch it for MOVE and I'll buy day 1 (doubt it though :-( )
 
Jay-B said:
So.... does this mean we get to play most levels twice like in DMC4 or the first TFU, or just that the levels are uninspired?

The quote from the mag.

Many of the environments are set on Kamino or the space around it, which didn't entrance me like the varied levels in the first game. The only iconic locations are a gameplay free pit stop at a familiar setting from the original trilogy (Dagobah) and a trip to an intergalactic casino that was surprisingly disinteresting.
 
PC specs are out:

Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista® SP2, or Windows 7

Processor:
Required: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 5200+
Recommended: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 6000+

Memory: 2 GB RAM

Hard disk space: 10GB + 1GB Swapfile

Video:
Required: 256 MB Video Memory with Shader 3.0 support - ATI Radeon HD 2600 / NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Recommended: ATI Radeon HD 4800 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Sound: 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible Audio Device

DirectX®: DirectX 9.0c (March 2009)
 

Zenith

Banned
PS Move could never be applied to the lightsabre mechanics though. It'd be used for targetting force throws and the like.
 

WillyFive

Member
A game like Force Unleashed would not work well with motion controls, for either Motion Plus or Move, because it's too intensive. Motion control is for immersion and precision, not button mashing.
 
Excited for this game, loved the first one, but probably won't play it until next year.

I hope Unleashed difficulty isn't such a pain in the ass this time around.
 

Glix

Member
BattleMonkey said:
That's kind of out of date, right now with LFL it's basically all in continuity. The only difference is Lucas vs. everything else as he himself said as much. They used to try to keep things away from each other like in the Bantam books era where they didn't acknowledge the video games or marvel comics, but thats no longer the case. LFL's stance right now is pretty much it's all in continuity unless it just can't fit or goes against something specific Lucas says/does.

Right now its basically what Lucas does (movies/clone wars) and everything else in the other category.



Well you could read the book instead :lol

The first game while being out there wasn't that bad story wise, though it had me roll my eyes at some things as it felt like some bad fanfiction at times. But either way I thought TFU1 worked well on it's on story wise.... making a sequel though and it's premise is just a bit too far even though it looks cool. Seems like Jerry Bruchkeimer presents Star Wars to me I guess. And Maulkiller..... yikes.

The early Zahn books were definately cannon. Lucas signed off on everything, and even adopted Zahn's vision of Coruscant for the prequels.
 

.la1n

Member
The Lamonster said:
It's obviously Gorbush Thriftweed, but what is this from?


edit: just found out he's a skin in the game. might purchase now.

unlockable character in unleashed II
 
Glix said:
The early Zahn books were definately cannon. Lucas signed off on everything, and even adopted Zahn's vision of Coruscant for the prequels.

Lucas signs off on all the books, and is involved in the development of many of the storylines including lot of the current series of books, but in his own words he has considered it all a separate universe.

Coruscant also was not invented by Zahn, he himself has said so. He did come up with the name, but the planet was designed by Lucas long ago and was just known as 'Imperial Center'. When they made the prequels the folks at LFL got him to agree to using the name Coruscant. Lot of elements from the EU have made appearances in the movies and now in Lucas' produced tv series, but it doesn't make it part of his own mind's canon. The previous link given has a clear quote on what he thinks of it all. He just wants it all to conform and not clash, but he considers it apart from his own work.
 

A.R.K

Member
Willy105 said:
A game like Force Unleashed would not work well with motion controls, for either Motion Plus or Move, because it's too intensive. Motion control is for immersion and precision, not button mashing.

well then hoping for a separate MOVE title where you can control the light saber 1:1 and its not on rails :)

but yeah it has to be designed from ground-up to make it work 1:1
 
10GB for the PC version? Geez.

Review is disappointing. I hated the level design and relatively boring boss battles of the first one. Seems like all style and no substance.
 
I'll wait for a Steam sale. The demo for the first game was great because they gave you a fully upgraded Starkiller and a bunch of the weakest enemies in the game to go to town on. Then you get the full game and find out that you're pitifully underpowered and the game doesn't so much have 'difficulty' as it does 'dozens of enemies with too much health' so you had to spend so long hacking at enemies, seemingly ineffectually because the intangible lightsabre gave you no idea whether you were actually hurting anyone. I gave up on the third or fourth level because I just wasn't having any fun at all.

TFU II seems like it could be more of the same, only now with two lightsabres so they can tick all the preteen fanfiction boxes. *pushes glasses up nose* Well, my character is more of a grey Jedi, and you will note that he holds his lightsabres backhanded and is thus obviously a practitioner of the second Form.
 

Alucrid

Banned
Originally I had it preordered, then I thought about it and canceled it, then I played the demo and preordered it, then thought about it and canceled it. Now I'm split. :\
 
Glix said:
The early Zahn books were definately cannon. Lucas signed off on everything, and even adopted Zahn's vision of Coruscant for the prequels.

The Zahn books were pretty awesome, 100 times better than anything in the prequels. I used to read a lot of the expanded universe stuff. The whole Mara Jade storyline was great. That said I stopped reading the EU stuff after they started milking the franchise beyond belief. The last EU book I read was devoted entirely to Princess Leia's wedding. That's right. Her wedding. That came out like 13 years ago, though. I'm actually glad I stopped caring, because I'm sure the canon is so beyond fucked up at this point.
 

Monocle

Member
GillianSeed79 said:
The Zahn books were pretty awesome, 100 times better than anything in the prequels. I used to read a lot of the expanded universe stuff. The whole Mara Jade storyline was great. That said I stopped reading the EU stuff after they started milking the franchise beyond belief. The last EU book I read was devoted entirely to Princess Leia's wedding. That's right. Her wedding. That came out like 13 years ago, though. I'm actually glad I stopped caring, because I'm sure the canon is so beyond fucked up at this point.
Well, you should read Traitor at least (if you haven't already). I'm not hugely into the Star Wars EU, but I thought that book was something special. Revisited it a couple months ago and found my opinion unchanged.
 
Monocle said:
Well, you should read Traitor at least (if you haven't already). I'm not hugely into the Star Wars EU, but I thought that book was something special. Revisited it a couple months ago and found my opinion unchanged.

Kinda hard to read that when it's near the end of a 20 some books series.

GillianSeed79 said:
The Zahn books were pretty awesome, 100 times better than anything in the prequels. I used to read a lot of the expanded universe stuff. The whole Mara Jade storyline was great. That said I stopped reading the EU stuff after they started milking the franchise beyond belief. The last EU book I read was devoted entirely to Princess Leia's wedding. That's right. Her wedding. That came out like 13 years ago, though. I'm actually glad I stopped caring, because I'm sure the canon is so beyond fucked up at this point.

Courtship of Princess Leia? Her wedding didn't even make up a chapter of the book. It's almost entirely adventure on jungle planet with Imperials fighting force witches riding rancors :lol
 

Canova

Banned
DualShadow said:
Can anyone confirm if you can have 2 different coloured lightsabers, saw it mentioned somewhere else.

Thanks :D

yes you can equip 2 different colors lightsabers at the same time
 
When I went to preorder the 360 collector edition at gamestop, I was told its too late they stopped taking them.

I therefore ordered from amazon, just a head up for those that care.

I'm such a sucker for steelbook cases :lol
 

Infinity

Member
BattleMonkey said:
Courtship of Princess Leia? Her wedding didn't even make up a chapter of the book. It's almost entirely adventure on jungle planet with Imperials fighting force witches riding rancors :lol

I remember reading that book back when I was in college, and when I finished it, my reaction was simply, "Huh..."
 

kodt

Banned
GillianSeed79 said:
The Zahn books were pretty awesome, 100 times better than anything in the prequels. I used to read a lot of the expanded universe stuff. The whole Mara Jade storyline was great. That said I stopped reading the EU stuff after they started milking the franchise beyond belief. The last EU book I read was devoted entirely to Princess Leia's wedding. That's right. Her wedding. That came out like 13 years ago, though. I'm actually glad I stopped caring, because I'm sure the canon is so beyond fucked up at this point.

The Darth Bane books are pretty entertaining. I recommend them, especially if you enjoyed KOTOR.
 

jett

D-Member
Digital Foundry posted an e-mail from a LucarArts engineer about TFU2 tech and the differences between each console version(in response to an original DF piece):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-lucasarts-on-tfu2-tech-blog-entry

"I don't know how all those screenshots and comparisons I am finding on the internet are done... With 99.9 per cent confidence I can confirm that the game looks (almost) identical on both platforms. In fact, I have all captures right in front of me (the PS3 and Xbox 360) and if you don't know which one is which, then you can't tell the difference."

"We also make sure that the frame rate stays at 30FPS with as minimal drops as possible on both platforms so some dynamic performance adjustments are made, thus you have to really compare the game under the same conditions. On average, both platforms perform the same. Sometimes the Xbox 360 drops a little, sometimes the PS3. But we were quite strong about keeping the frame-rate and quality the same."

No fear there about which version to buy I guess.

Seems they're mostly identical. I don't really like their AA solution though, it blurs the overall image too much for my liking, and I noticed it in the demo.
 
Read the graphic novel last night.

Still can't figure out how Juno survived. Was she a Proxy droid all along? And Boba Fett showed his face too many times for the galaxy's deadliest bounty hunter.

Also, Vader captured? Yeah that's mildly believable, but still very strange. I wonder if you get optional endings like the first one.
 

JdFoX187

Banned
Rated-Rsuperstar said:
The quote from the mag.

Many of the environments are set on Kamino or the space around it, which didn't entrance me like the varied levels in the first game. The only iconic locations are a gameplay free pit stop at a familiar setting from the original trilogy (Dagobah) and a trip to an intergalactic casino that was surprisingly disinteresting.
Having played through the first game recently, the environments really aren't that varied. It pulled a DMC4 by revisiting every planet twice in the game, just at different times of the day. And all of the Emperial areas looked the same.
 

iratA

Member
Enjoyed the first and have this preordered. Wouldn't mind knowing how long the game is though. I'm predicting 6-7 hour mark.
 

Jb

Member
iratA said:
Enjoyed the first and have this preordered. Wouldn't mind knowing how long the game is though. I'm predicting 6-7 hour mark.
Nope, less than 5 hours.
(This dude was streaming the game a few moments ago.)
Also, the story is really bad.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
Lame. First game was around 8-9 hours IIRC (then again, half of that was probably just spent on that awful Star Destroyer part :lol )
 

iratA

Member
Jay-B said:
Nope, less than 5 hours.(This dude was streaming the game a few moments ago.)
Also, the story is really bad.

WTF.. seriously. This is shorter than most of my digital downloads. Why Lucas Arts why?

Regarding the story: It can't be worse than the first one? Can it.. Can it? (spoiler free please) I know Game Informer wern't really impressed but they still gave the game a 7.75 or something.
OMG this is starting to sound like a sinking ship.
 
Jay-B said:
Nope, less than 5 hours.
(This dude was streaming the game a few moments ago.)
Also, the story is really bad.
Not sure I believe you, considering the massive amount of mega-fanboy snobbery going on in this thread

iratA said:
WTF.. seriously. This is shorter than most of my digital downloads. Why Lucas Arts why?

Regarding the story: It can't be worse than the first one? Can it.. Can it? (spoiler free please) I know Game Informer wern't really impressed but they still gave the game a 7.75 or something.
OMG this is starting to sound like a sinking ship.
So you're gonna let a couple snobbish comments and another crappy game misinformer review sway your decision. You're too easily influenced
 

Jb

Member
AzureNightmare said:
Not sure I believe you, considering the massive amount of mega-fanboy snobbery going on in this thread
I understand your specticism, but I swear to God the less than 5 hours thing is true. And it's not like I wanted this game to fail. On the contrary, I quite liked the demo and had high hopes for the finished game. So no, I ain't no snob.
As for the story, I guess I'll let you be the judge. At this point I'm not sure what is and what isn't considered good as far as SW story goes.
 
Jay-B said:
I understand your specticism, but I swear to God the less than 5 hours thing is true. And it's not like I wanted this game to fail. On the contrary, I quite liked the demo and had high hopes for the finished game. So no, I ain't no snob.
As for the story, I guess I'll let you be the judge. At this point I'm not sure what is and what isn't considered good as far as SW story goes.
To me, blowing through the game on the easiest setting doesn't constitute as a "playthrough". A game's gotta have some difficulty, and not hold your hand. Which is why I am skeptical of the 5 hour mark since its more than likely he was playing on easy. a normal or hard game would most likely be longer.
 

Monocle

Member
BattleMonkey said:
Kinda hard to read that when it's near the end of a 20 some books series.
Not in my experience. I didn't read any of the prior books in the series and I was able to follow Traitor's plot with no trouble. Traitor is a dark, uncompromising piece of fiction—remarkably daring when you consider the slot it has to fill as just one more in a long line of linked installments. As far as I've been able to tell from reading a bunch of synopses, the books that follow Traitor make a spectacular mess of all the intriguing little seeds it plants. It may actually be strongest when removed from the broader context of its story arc.
 

Prine

Banned
Yeah i dont believe the 5 hour completion time too. A gamer intent on reaching the end on average difficulty in one sitting is not an decent indicator of length. I always reject numbers when provided like this. Or add another 2-3 hrs as im quite different when progressing through a game.

Also, motion controls for this game would not work. I dont see how one can view this as a missed opportunity, there is no opportunity (if your focusing on sabers). Maybe for force powers, but thats it. The game is highly stylized, motion controls relies on your input, the 2 methods conflict.
 

Boerseun

Banned
Willy105 said:
I wonder how different the Wii version will be.

The SD version of the original was quite different in many ways, from story to gameplay. This one seems to be even more different.

The Wii version of the original had several extra missions built in that was DLC in the HD versions, making the game and story a bit longer/more fleshed out. And while the HD versions were button mashers, the Wii version implemented the motion controls in a really good way.

The only dissappointment with the Wii version for me was the tacked on multiplayer mode. It can be fun with two players taking each other on, but could have been so much more if it implemented computer controlled players and various A.I. difficulty levels.

We already know TFU2 Wii has again an exclusive multiplayer mode. This time it is based on the Smash Bros. format and looks totally sweet. Also, with Red Fly doing the port the graphics should be much improved from the Ps2 assets of the original.
 
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