Greenpanda
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Error2k4 said:
Hard to argue with that!
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Is Dawn of Mana a bomb?
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Hard to argue with that!
Greenpanda
Banned
Avalon said:
http://psmk2.net/
Just click the genre (in the center box for PS2), and then the year ... if you can read the game titles in katakana, you're pretty much set.
At the top of the page you can see what section of the site you are on, click on HOME to see all the genres. There you can see genres for PS2 & PS3 games in the middle of the screen. I figured out which genre was which by hovering over the links, some (like RPG) are pretty easy to figure out though. When you choose a genre you'll get a list of games, some are easier to figure out, other you can see by clicking on the link and looking at the boxart. On the top of the each list you can see years and each list has the games that came out that year in each respective genre. That's pretty much it. On the HOME page you can also get to other mk2 sites for other platforms like PSP and DS.Avalon said:
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Speaking of Kenji Ito, is the music at least somewhat nice? I really liked his work on Final Fantasy Adventure (aka Mystic Quest)/Sword of Mana, though that may just be me.
Along with Kenji Ito (who just did the music to Culdcept Saga), Tsuyoshi Sekito, Junya Nakano and Masayoshi Soken are also featured.
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/seiken4/
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/seiken4/
PhoenixDark
Banned
MAF likes it so it must be AWESOME
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Yeah. I know he gets a lot of praise, but I'm really not a big fan of Junya Nakano. I didn't like most of his Musashi music, either.
I do like Ito's work, and Tsuyoshi Sekito is fantastic -- one of the best composers working at Square Enix besides Koichi Sugiyama and Masashi Hamauzu.
ethelred said:
Is Sugiyama employed by Square Enix? I figured he'd be one of those contracted composers, but that's pretty cool if he works there...considering his pre-DQ notoriety.
Shimomura, Sakimoto, and Mitsuda (among others) have a lot of freedom with what they do, so they have pretty cool arrangements too.
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Sugiyama may not work there. I originally was going to say that Sekito is the second best composer directly employed by Square Enix (behind Hamauzu), but I hedged that a bit because I wasn't 100% sure of Sugiyama's arrangement. I'm pretty sure he doesn't work for them, since he's always listed by himself in the DQ copyrights along with Armor Project (Horii) and Bird Studio (Toriyama).
Shimomura, Sakimoto, and Mitsuda all definitely don't work for SE, though. Shimomura and Sakimoto are freelancers... Mitsuda runs his own music studio.
ethelred said:
A lot? I wish.
His most popular work was on the FFX score, where his contributions were pretty weak, with the exception of "Summoned Beast Battle," "Illusion" and "Those Who Come Closer."*
*There's a good chance I'm the only one who likes that track.
Musashiden II has awesome stuff, like "Firewalker," "Meltdown," "Call of the Wild," the final battle themes, etc. Sylpheed is even more awesome because of his electro-acoustic compositions.
Nakano should co-compose FFXIII with Hamauzu.
Terrell said:
Eh, er... I don't think they'll be all that pleased with how it's selling. Frankly, it's looking quite possible that the game will underperform Children of Mana's 300,000 in sales. That's not good considering this is Seiken Densetsu IV.
For what it's worth, Legend of Mana on the PlayStation sold over 700,000, and Seiken Densetsu II and Seiken Densetsu III did... considerably better. This is a steep, steep decline for the franchise. Especially if you factor in how much the prices have been slashed for the game already.
Kobun Heat
Member
I've only played the first four stages, but all the things I was worried would be major issues seem from these reviews to be entirely true.
So yeah, kusoge total.
So yeah, kusoge total.
OOPS, my bad, thinking of a different game, last week's MC entry was its first, where it sold 150K+ at #6 on the chart. It slipped 2 spots to #8 according to Famitsu for the final week of 2006, which was the biggest sales week of the year last year, if I remember right... so I'm betting that Dawn of Mana has already eclipsed 300,000 in sales, putting it ahead of Children of Mana at the very least.jj984jj said:
Greenpanda
Banned
Crom said:
It's Charlotte Church, I believe ...at least that's what some other poster said
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Seiken Densetsu 3, the best game ever.
Seiken Densetsu 4, the worst game ever?
I mean, I'm still buying this shit but how can it possiblt score 20-30?
Seiken Densetsu 4, the worst game ever?
I mean, I'm still buying this shit but how can it possiblt score 20-30?
Tyrone Slothrop
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it blows my mind that after 11 years, there still isn't a proper SD game. i guess i'll call it a day and give up on there ever being proper successors to the super famicom titles. i'm always for moving franchises in "different directions" after awhile - but this is an exception where they veered way too far from the path
(i havent played SD4 yet but the fact its an action game while not being a spin-off says a lot)
(i havent played SD4 yet but the fact its an action game while not being a spin-off says a lot)
Final Fantasy XII scored a whopping 40-49/100 on that website
discoalucard
i am a butthurt babby that can only drool in wonder at shiney objects
Yeah these reviews might not say a whole lot, this is like trusting GameFAQs readers reviews for anything.
I snagged some examples. Not all of these are drastically off, but without reading any of the reviews, I can assume a lot of them were from sniveling fans who didn't like the changes of sequels and drastically dropped their scores because of it. (see: the Ratchet and Clank games).
RPGs:
Valkyrie Profile 2 - C
Suikoden 5 - C
Tales of Destiny Remake - A
Digital Devil Saga 1 - D
Digital Devil Saga 2 - B
Devil Summoner Kuzunoha Raidou - D
Dragon Quest 8 - B
Romancing Saga - A
Wild Arms 3 - B
Grandia 3 - E
Suikoden 4 - E
Final Fantasy X - A
Non-RPGs
OZ - A
God of War - S
God Hand - B
Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams - B
Devil May Cry 3 - A
Castlevania Curse of Darkness - C
Splinter Cell - C
Metal Gear Solid 3 - A
Ratchet & Clank 1, 2 and 3 - A
Ratchet & Clack 4 - E
Rockman X8 - S
Driv3r - B
Plus Japan seems to really like Driv3r? I have this old magazine that wasn't Famitsu but reviewed Famitsu style, and one of the dudes gave it a 10.
I snagged some examples. Not all of these are drastically off, but without reading any of the reviews, I can assume a lot of them were from sniveling fans who didn't like the changes of sequels and drastically dropped their scores because of it. (see: the Ratchet and Clank games).
RPGs:
Valkyrie Profile 2 - C
Suikoden 5 - C
Tales of Destiny Remake - A
Digital Devil Saga 1 - D
Digital Devil Saga 2 - B
Devil Summoner Kuzunoha Raidou - D
Dragon Quest 8 - B
Romancing Saga - A
Wild Arms 3 - B
Grandia 3 - E
Suikoden 4 - E
Final Fantasy X - A
Non-RPGs
OZ - A
God of War - S
God Hand - B
Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams - B
Devil May Cry 3 - A
Castlevania Curse of Darkness - C
Splinter Cell - C
Metal Gear Solid 3 - A
Ratchet & Clank 1, 2 and 3 - A
Ratchet & Clack 4 - E
Rockman X8 - S
Driv3r - B
Plus Japan seems to really like Driv3r? I have this old magazine that wasn't Famitsu but reviewed Famitsu style, and one of the dudes gave it a 10.
I dont know, site seems way more in tune with my tastes than gamefaqs ever will.discoalucard said:Yeah these reviews might not say a whole lot, this is like trusting GameFAQs readers reviews for anything.
I snagged some examples. Not all of these are drastically off, but without reading any of the reviews, I can assume a lot of them were from sniveling fans who didn't like the changes of sequels and drastically dropped their scores because of it. (see: the Ratchet and Clank games).
RPGs:
Valkyrie Profile 2 - C --> fair, the story is very sucky with awesome gameplay I would give it a B myself
Suikoden 5 - C ---> havent played
Tales of Destiny Remake - A ---> havent played
Digital Devil Saga 1 - D ---> yes you have to remember when DDS1 came out in japan DDS2 didnt existed
Digital Devil Saga 2 - B ---> fair I would give that score too
Devil Summoner Kuzunoha Raidou - D ---> I would give a B myself but I can see why they would give it a D game has a lot of shortcomings
Dragon Quest 8 - B ---> yes cant argue with this
Romancing Saga - A ----> omfg <3333333
Wild Arms 3 - B ---> I played a little but not enough to form a solid opinion
Grandia 3 - E ---> yeah this game sucks
Suikoden 4 - E ---> yeah game sucks
Final Fantasy X - A ---> I'll give it a B, but an A acceptable it's a solid FF game
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
If this game was handled by the Code Age Commanders team(just guessing due to the wacky gameplay system) then yeah it deserves to bomb.
CAC is a complete mess. Levelling is handled by doing special attacks and all it really does is level your weapons, your HP/other stats never go up from that. The game also features no less than four horrible game-breaking stages.
1. Escort your sister across a cannon-infested battlefield. Watch her dumbass follow you into the heart of danger even when you pick her up and move her a mile away from it all.
2. The first of four "final" bosses(one for each character you play as), things are fine until you get double-teamed towards the end and have to somehow beat this guy before you run out of lives.
3. Escort no less than three people through a cannon-infested battlefield. Sure they're warriors like yourself but they're about as stupid as the sister from a similar stage.
4. The Final...Final boss. Beating this guy normally is IMO impossible. The only way I managed to defeat him was through a special ability. Sometimes after doing a special move your character will turn into this super-powered cyber..bug...thing. I thought this sort of thing wasn't available for boss fights but luckily I was wrong.
Prior Mana games were junk anyway.
Secret of Mana- Defeating bosses was as simple as casting a few spells(you could also "stack" multiple spells since there was no delay in the menu), charge attacks were pointless since they take forever to charge up, tons of party-related glitches like getting a buddy stuck in a pit or a wall or something thus forcing a reload, many of the weapons were useless, and worst of all the feeling of "if this is an action game why can't I dodge 90% of the shit that gets thrown at me?"
Seiken Densetsu 3- Well they fixed the "spell stacking" and the weapon charging has been replaced. Also the weapon balance has been fixed simply by locking class-types. All well and good right? Whoops. Battles were entirely dumbed down as essentially all you did was walk up to stuff and attack. Bosses somehow quadrupled their HP so fights lasted far longer than they ever did in SD2/Secret of Mana. Dodging stuff was pretty much pointless, mimic traps could end games extremely quickly as the mimic was always the level of the party. Speaking of for some reason at times monsters levelled with the party which was pointless and frustrating. The inventory system was a freaking joke as there were way too many useless items and time had to spent managing them all. Class system was a nice idea but some classes are simply much better than others, kind of defeats the purpose if everyone picks the best classes right?
Legend of Mana- Ehhh not really touching this one. It's a button-masher's dream during boss fights though and the dungeon designs are probably the most dull of the entire series. All in all a huge step back.
Seriously though everyone should get Children of Mana, it's easily the most fun Mana in the series and also the least broken.
CAC is a complete mess. Levelling is handled by doing special attacks and all it really does is level your weapons, your HP/other stats never go up from that. The game also features no less than four horrible game-breaking stages.
1. Escort your sister across a cannon-infested battlefield. Watch her dumbass follow you into the heart of danger even when you pick her up and move her a mile away from it all.
2. The first of four "final" bosses(one for each character you play as), things are fine until you get double-teamed towards the end and have to somehow beat this guy before you run out of lives.
3. Escort no less than three people through a cannon-infested battlefield. Sure they're warriors like yourself but they're about as stupid as the sister from a similar stage.
4. The Final...Final boss. Beating this guy normally is IMO impossible. The only way I managed to defeat him was through a special ability. Sometimes after doing a special move your character will turn into this super-powered cyber..bug...thing. I thought this sort of thing wasn't available for boss fights but luckily I was wrong.
Prior Mana games were junk anyway.
Secret of Mana- Defeating bosses was as simple as casting a few spells(you could also "stack" multiple spells since there was no delay in the menu), charge attacks were pointless since they take forever to charge up, tons of party-related glitches like getting a buddy stuck in a pit or a wall or something thus forcing a reload, many of the weapons were useless, and worst of all the feeling of "if this is an action game why can't I dodge 90% of the shit that gets thrown at me?"
Seiken Densetsu 3- Well they fixed the "spell stacking" and the weapon charging has been replaced. Also the weapon balance has been fixed simply by locking class-types. All well and good right? Whoops. Battles were entirely dumbed down as essentially all you did was walk up to stuff and attack. Bosses somehow quadrupled their HP so fights lasted far longer than they ever did in SD2/Secret of Mana. Dodging stuff was pretty much pointless, mimic traps could end games extremely quickly as the mimic was always the level of the party. Speaking of for some reason at times monsters levelled with the party which was pointless and frustrating. The inventory system was a freaking joke as there were way too many useless items and time had to spent managing them all. Class system was a nice idea but some classes are simply much better than others, kind of defeats the purpose if everyone picks the best classes right?
Legend of Mana- Ehhh not really touching this one. It's a button-masher's dream during boss fights though and the dungeon designs are probably the most dull of the entire series. All in all a huge step back.
Seriously though everyone should get Children of Mana, it's easily the most fun Mana in the series and also the least broken.
Error2k4 said:care to explain? they gave your beloved XS ep3 an A rating btw.
I saw a lot of their scores for the games and it's pretty hard against a lot of those scores. FF12 having a D rating makes me smile
:0 :0 :0 I didnt notice that :/ I just found a lot to disagree with, like VP2, Suiko5, Digital Devil Saga, Driv3r :/
D is way too low for FFXII man, i wonder if you wouldve liked it more if you played more than 30 hours? Who am I kidding though, 30 hours is enough for an initial impression
Im loving it to bits though.
What I AM surprised at though, is their action game ratings, i think i agree with every one almost.
God of War S? DMC3 A? Onimusha DOD B? Rockman X8 S? MGS3 A? Hell yeah.
I wish THESE japanese gamers were overflowing in japan so these gems would sell more