Marty Chinn
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How can you say it's not? E3 hasn't happened yet.
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TVTVTVTVTV! Xbox One Goes to Hollywood
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How can you say it's not? E3 hasn't happened yet.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Because the guy who made that claim is Phil Spencer, Vice President of Microsoft Studios, talking specifically about investment in Microsoft Studios.
It's not the TV features that puts us off. It's the compromises made with the hardware specs to support said features.
I don't think it's overstating it, if that's mostly what Microsoft decided to focus on when they unveiled their console.
No, that actually seems like the sane thing to do. For either side. It makes no sense to go off on a tirade about "MS is dropping bombs, 15 exclusives" or "Those exclusives will be shit, tvtvtv sports!" because in 6 days you could look like a complete idiot. I could understand if E3 was 10 months away, but it's literally next week.
Melchiah
Member
Neither of those really exclude the 2nd party games, that are bought (and sometimes co-developed) instead of developed by Microsoft from the ground up.
Iced_Eagle
Member
I didn't realize people had to ask for something for someone to make something.
Ah yes, the good ol number battles. Let's wait until we see the actual games running before we start judging the consoles. Forza 5 and Quantum Break was trailers for games running on dev kits. They looked pretty fucking great to me.
crazy buttocks on a train
quite possibly the greatest username
...sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
HIX? nojustnoo.no.stahlp.
NullPointer
Member
You don't have to, but if there was actual demand it would probably help.
Why do people think 15 titles for Xbox One in the first year is outside the realm of possibility? Sony managed to do 28 first party exclusives in it's first year for the PS3 (including 8 downloadable titles, and not including crappy filler like "Go Sports SKI!"). 15 is a very easy target to hit.
The buttocks has spoken.
Iced_Eagle
Member
Well, absolutely it would be great if everything could launch with a demand for it. However, sometimes you need to create something new, in which case you start off with 0 demand for it.
Melchiah
Member
I personally don't think it's impossible, but I think the number includes games from outside of Microsoft's own studios.
The people who think it's impossible might not be the type to WANT it to happen. Naturally I think it's possible. Quality-wise, who knows?
3rdamention
Member
Exactly, with Microsoft saying they have a "plan" to reach out to Indie Devs, who seem to be left out in the Xbone dark right now, you would think they would be trying to meet with them.
Oh well, you cannot spell Xbone or XboxOne without the letters " Xbox Exclusive Television Content."
Marty Chinn
Member
They did? That many? Do you have a list?
Oh wow. All of the TV stuff? Jeez!
Wiki probably has them broken down by year of release.
Yeah, we found out shortly after the show. Apparently that wasn't the actual episode of Price is Right that was live at the time. Plus there were videos of an actual demonstration and while it worked ok (choppy video on initial channel pull-up) it wasn't as smooth as the stage presentation.
Uno Venova
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Did you see how fast that was!? Let's see it again!
Yeah there's a video interview where they actually show the real UI with the snap feature runs at like 5 frames per second. They faked all of it on stage.
I would argue that just about anyone buying a console KNOWS it plays games as its base function, and those same people are very interested in what else it can do.
I'm going to see games in 6 days at E3 and I am going to read about games on a daily basis from now until the day they launch.
I don't need Sony or Microsoft to tell me their consoles play games , it should be obvious to everyone. It's also not an issue to me or anyone else I know that their £3-400 plastic box will do more than simply play video games.
2006
Genji: Days of the Blade
LocoRoco
NBA 07
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7 (PAL version co-published)
2007
The Eye of Judgment
Folklore
Formula One Championship Edition
Heavenly Sword
Lair
MLB 07: The Show
MotorStorm
NBA 08
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
SingStar
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Warhawk
PSN :
2006
Blast Factor
Gran Turismo HD Concept
Go! Sudoku
Lemmings
2007
Calling All Cars!
Everyday Shooter
Go! Sports Ski
flow
Go! Puzzle
High Velocity Bowling
LocoRoco Cocoreccho
Pain (Blu-ray disc in PAL)
PixelJunk Racers
Piyotama
Snakeball
Super Rub 'a' Dub
Super Stardust HD
Toy Home
Warhawk
I want to believe. It seems like consoles never launch with stuff ready.
I counted 28 by looking at all the games that metacritic lists, maybe he has a more reliable source.
When you say Hix should stop, what do you mean?
ambientmystic
Member
There you have it folks. Confirmation from our insider.
What did he confirm? halp!? lol
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Its all right they have dead rising 3.
I think he's saying stop believing all the PR.
Opportunity cost. Its hard to argue this TV stuff will not effect MS's output.
dream431ca
Banned
Fantastic!!!
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
listen to this man.
A simple read of any book on narrative would teach you that interactivity breaks true immersion.
You can be immersed in a story and you can be immersed in gameplay. you cannot be immersed in both in the same time, unless you are unaware you are playing a game a la matrix.
tfur
Member
Sounds like another piece of evidence corroborating the 6 months behind schedule rumor?
Maybe?
Sure:
I was a bit off; 14 were downloadable, 15 were retail games. So even if you don't count the downloads list you still have 15 first party games made in the first year. We're not sure if MS is counting downloadables in it's 15 (though I'm sure they are).
Impeccable
Member
NCIS and Bones apps and they are well behind schedule. Oh and they are having heavy Kinect focus with heavy DRM.
The insiders have spoken and we're fucked. Honestly, I keep trying to keep positive.
Oh well.
The insiders have spoken and we're fucked. Honestly, I keep trying to keep positive.
Oh well.
Fresh Face
Banned
Yes, oh great crazy buttocks, answer this please! I'm confused as well.
I didn't know that at all. Doesn't surprise me, as I'm sure the PS4 UI was faked too.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Not sure if that's what he's talking about, it's pretty indisputable that Microsoft have done things like open new gaming studios from scratch etc.
SpinningBirdKick
Banned
Fixed.
Melchiah
Member
Huh! "The PS3 has no games", eventhough there were a plenty of gems for a variety of tastes. Well, perhaps not that much for the FPS fans.
Marty Chinn
Member
Oh I wasn't doubting you. I just never knew it was that high and was curious. I certainly don't recall there being that many and I think counting some things like Lemmings is pushing it, but that's an interesting data point. I would have guessed closer to 10 retail releases from memory.
Melchiah
Member
Perhaps repeating the 1st party mantra over and over again?
I see nothing wrong with that comment. MS have been building studios for awhile, theyre bound to have many games ready to go.
I know, that kinda surprised me too when someone mentioned that earlier (I had to go get a list myself because I didn't believe it, hah). Also Lemmings is a Sony owned IP so I think it should count.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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NullPointer
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Zero demand and zero latent consumer desire, outside of marketing and sales meetings, seemingly.