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GameInformer Oct WiiU Info (NSMBU/NintendoLand) [Don't Post Scans, Even Digital Ones]
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I ordered the digital subscription for 12 months over there. They redirected me to gamestop.com. I submitted the order and got 2 mails from gamestop. (one order confirmation and one shipping confirmation - with the latter there should be also an mail with a link to gameinformer.com's subscription validation site.
Starsunder
Member
HOLY SHIT this game looks amazing. Just beautiful and the news about the map (and even the naming scheme of the lands!) just makes me more excited. I wish I knew more about the branching paths in the levels.
I'm also pleased that NSMBWii is getting rightfully praised for its amazing level design. I love SMW and SMB3, but in terms of level design NSMBWii has em beat hands down.
I'm also pleased that NSMBWii is getting rightfully praised for its amazing level design. I love SMW and SMB3, but in terms of level design NSMBWii has em beat hands down.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Arent the physical copies out today?
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...ntendo-land-39-s-balloon-trip-attraction.aspx
Posted in Wii U thread
First trailer for Balloon Trip Breeze
Posted in Wii U thread
First trailer for Balloon Trip Breeze
Mr. Wonderful
Member
This comparison is dumb. You would never see the SMW Map all zoomed out like that. It would be way zoomed in, and therefore, not nearly as bland for what the SNES was pushing.
When I was looking for images for this comparison, I stumbled across a website that has full level maps from SMB3 and SMW:
http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/mario_game_maps/super_mario_world_levels/
http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/mario_game_maps/super_mario_bros_3_maps/
and I realized that even my memory of SMW made the levels more complex than they actually are. NSMBWii and NSMB2's levels are more complex than SMW's in general. Nostalgia is really hurting these games. This whole hatred of NSMB level design makes no sense at all.
Shikamaru Ninja
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More Nintendo Land tidbits.
1. There will be single player only games. Donkey Kong and Balloon Fight amongst them. These games will be the ones supporting the off-tv play. Will have challenging features.
2. Music is really good so far. Even the non-remixed music you hear in the theme park and menus.
3. Looks like there are random "games" or activities? That you can play outside of the big theme parks.
1. There will be single player only games. Donkey Kong and Balloon Fight amongst them. These games will be the ones supporting the off-tv play. Will have challenging features.
2. Music is really good so far. Even the non-remixed music you hear in the theme park and menus.
3. Looks like there are random "games" or activities? That you can play outside of the big theme parks.
Nocturnowl
Member
Pretty much, SMW has always been my favourite as well but lets not ignore its visual shortcomings, background wise you have 2 types of slanted mountains (I think, it may just be one), Cave, Cloudy Sky, Underwater, Forest, Castle/Fort, the blue dome mountains and that sort of Night Sky/Sparkly Cave thing in some star world stages and vanilla dome 4, it's really just that SMW was smart with the colour palette at times and would switch up these backgrounds with various other colour schemes which gives the illusion of more background variety, something NSMB should have done but didn't for the most part.
Now there's nothing wrong with the above backgrounds, they are visually basic but they have a nice feel to them, there's an absolute ton of platformers from the same era that destroy SMW in background depth much like how right now NSMB has many adversaries with far more interesting backdrops that are used to rally against its basic look.
This doesn't mean that NSMB should stick to the bare bones basic backgrounds (some of the new ones do well to alleviate this) but SMW barely has it beat in variety and depth so it's weird when people act like it's some visual masterpiece and the NSMB series is this one outlier.
One of SMW's main points to counter any blandness is the mostly new cast of enemies, it helps the game stand out quite a lot and gives it a more unique identity, NSMB draws enemies mostly from SMB3 with a few from SMW, SM64 and even fewer new enemies that haven't really entered character staple status, a few more new enemy types would work well for NSMB, at the same time the vast backlog of enemies is pretty solid in itself.
Really though if people really must pit NSMB against SMW in background warfare to rally against the "villainous" NSMB series then whatever, go nuts. I prefer the look of SMW to the previous NSMB games myself but it's not that much better at all, really they are both lacking. Mario games tend to favour having more simplistic backgrounds as to not obscure the stage itself, there's nothing really wrong with this, the real crime of the NSMB games was reusing the same world themes across three games with very similar backgrounds across them all, while it's still arguably sneakily sticking to the standard themes from what we've seen and heard so far NSMBU is doing much better already.
The short version: Being visually basic is pretty much a trait of 2D Mario anyway, SML2 is about as unique as things got.
DragonSworne
Banned
Aren't all scan digital?
I like SMW because it IS simple.
I like SMW because it IS simple.
Nostalgia will play a part, but pixel art has a charm about it. Being pixel based complements the simplicity. Once you go 3D things can go too clean, and the NSMB games took on that look by being too clean. Too safe really, so it loses that charm.
It's not ugly but it's not as appealing, although this one does look to be mixing it up a bit more than before.
Maybe I'm missing the point, but if I understand RagnarokX correctly he was talking about level design. Not sure why you are countering his post with a graphical statement. Whether or not Mario World's levels weren't displayed zoomed out doesn't really change the complexity of its level design.
That sounds awesome reminds me of those final levels of SM3Dland.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
more info from gameinformer from gn.
destroy me if old.
StreetsAhead
Member
Yes to all of this. I don't care about shaking and I'm not afraid to admit it!
New Super Mario World confirmed.
Mr. E. Yis
Banned
Sounds good except for the shaking parts. Shaking ruined DKCR for me. :/ I hope there's a way to map that stuff to a button....
Lord_Byron28
Member
uh oh. There are going to be some meltdowns about the shaking thing. I don't really care. I'm a little nervous though it sounds as if Yoshi will be like NSMBWii where he goes away at the end of the level.
TheCongressman1
Member
Oooh... Do not want.
TheCongressman1
Member
The shake doesn't bother me so much in NSMB, but I agree, it's not a good idea. It only ever really made sense in Wario Land: Shake It.
When I was looking for images for this comparison, I stumbled across a website that has full level maps from SMB3 and SMW:
http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/mario_game_maps/super_mario_world_levels/
http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/mario_game_maps/super_mario_bros_3_maps/
and I realized that even my memory of SMW made the levels more complex than they actually are. NSMBWii and NSMB2's levels are more complex than SMW's in general. Nostalgia is really hurting these games. This whole hatred of NSMB level design makes no sense at all.
Ok... now I'm officially impressed.
I just found a secret in SMB.3 I didn't know about its existence.
literally mind blown!!!
Edit: fuck it :O
I need to play this again :O
This game is looking so promising.
They should've just made the shake an option that way everyones happy.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Well you're holding a baby yoshi and when you shake it its powers activate. Either way a button press would've sufficed.
which button
TheCongressman1
Member
B doesn't do anything does it?
If Mario shakes it on screen when you do it, then that's a little better, but it's still completely arbitrary.
i've never found hitting the B button to be particularly comfortable when the controller is sideways.
AgentOtaku
Member
Good post man
When I was looking for images for this comparison, I stumbled across a website that has full level maps from SMB3 and SMW:
http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/mario_game_maps/super_mario_world_levels/
http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/mario_game_maps/super_mario_bros_3_maps/
and I realized that even my memory of SMW made the levels more complex than they actually are. NSMBWii and NSMB2's levels are more complex than SMW's in general. Nostalgia is really hurting these games. This whole hatred of NSMB level design makes no sense at all.
Even the backgrounds match. What kind of wizardry is this, Nintendo?!
TheCongressman1
Member
Same could be said for shaking the controller. Would be nice to give the option, that's all I'm saying.
StickSoldier
Member
I just want fucking different colored yoshis that we can ride and that stay with us after a level...
That's exactly what I want, I'm hoping with all these SMWorld references it means we should be able to take him
I hope this means what I think it does:
Coming from Game Informer...
- Three Yoshi variations
- Pink Yoshi: inflated with a GamePad/Wiimote shake
- This can take Mario even higher than the flying suit can
- Pink Yoshis don’t help in horizontal movement
- Large surface area useful for collecting a bunch of airborne coins
- Gold Yoshi: shake the controller to light up the immediate area
- Also stuns nearby enemies
- Gold Yoshis show up in the Fire Snake Caverns
- Blue Yoshi: can shoot bubbles
- Can ride the adult version of Yoshi in numerous levels
Lord_Byron28
Member
Are we talking about the Wii controller or Wii U gamepad? I thought you could play single player with the pad if you wanted.
It sounds like the opposite.That's exactly what I want, I'm hoping with all these SMWorld references it means we should be able to take him
I hope this means what I think it does:
Coming from Game Informer...
- Three Yoshi variations
- Pink Yoshi: inflated with a GamePad/Wiimote shake
- This can take Mario even higher than the flying suit can
- Pink Yoshis dont help in horizontal movement
- Large surface area useful for collecting a bunch of airborne coins
- Gold Yoshi: shake the controller to light up the immediate area
- Also stuns nearby enemies
- Gold Yoshis show up in the Fire Snake Caverns
- Blue Yoshi: can shoot bubbles
- Can ride the adult version of Yoshi in numerous levels
sounds like pro controller will be for teh pr0 gamer waggel h8rs
That's exactly what I want, I'm hoping with all these SMWorld references it means we should be able to take him
I hope this means what I think it does:
Coming from Game Informer...
- Three Yoshi variations
- Pink Yoshi: inflated with a GamePad/Wiimote shake
- This can take Mario even higher than the flying suit can
- Pink Yoshis dont help in horizontal movement
- Large surface area useful for collecting a bunch of airborne coins
- Gold Yoshi: shake the controller to light up the immediate area
- Also stuns nearby enemies
- Gold Yoshis show up in the Fire Snake Caverns
- Blue Yoshi: can shoot bubbles
- Can ride the adult version of Yoshi in numerous levels
Adult Yoshi is the best Yoshi. Also, what are the Fire Snake Caverns?
The only thing about that that is SMW is Yoshi, and they were in NSMBWii. It would only be a big deal if they brought back adult yoshis with color powers, but I doubt that'll happen.
well we're halfway there, and SMG2 went the whole way.
I don't think the baby yoshis grow up in this one. The pink and gold ones especially are too integral to level gimmicks.
But who knows. Maybe gold Yoshi turns into a permanent one of these when it eats 5 things:
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Everybody complaining about the shake..be silenced!
from game informer.
from game informer.
ThatObviousUser
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:O
Now confirm we can use Pro Controllers! (I wouldn't mind shaking with the Pro Controller, but with the GamePad it seems like it would be clumsy.)
shadyspace
Banned
the pro controllers have no waggle capabilities right
ThatObviousUser
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I dunno, I was wondering about that.
well the gamepad has waggle so id be surprised if the pro controllers didn't.
Indeed. Damn near ruined DKCR.
Wonder if they'll actually bother putting in an option to turn that junk off this time. Doubt it.