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Media Create Sales 12/3 - 12/9 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Pureauthor
Member
avatar299 said:
My stance has always been that releasing such games on the exact same day was a spectacularly dumb move.
However, as I am so very fond of saying, finding reasons for why the game does not do well does not change in the least the fact that the game did not do well. The games performed horrendously, and their releasing all on the same day is part of the reason, as is the release of far bigger games at the same timeframe.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
AnimeTheme said:
Slow start for GT5P. Not bad for Chocobo Dungeon. The rest: bombs.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
jj984jj said:
Shit. Just forgot it's december-time. This make these first day numbers even more pathetics.
duckroll said:
Shit. Bombs all around. Wii Fit has stolen all the attention.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
ziran said:
My opinion is that Nintendo is monopolising the market too much now. Shit, outside Nintendo's games & non-games, the rest is in decline in Japan. The fact that even X360 software is more successfull then most Wii Third Party games is really a bad sign.
ethelred said:
Right. I think the only exception is Square-Enix, as Dragon Quest Swords proved.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
So LE Red PSP is selling out quickly, thats up to 100k more PSPs for the week.
And they release the sequel to their best selling game since 2004 on any console one week before the limited edition PSP, and without bundles.
SCEJ fails once again, they fail horribly.
And they release the sequel to their best selling game since 2004 on any console one week before the limited edition PSP, and without bundles.
SCEJ fails once again, they fail horribly.
PhoenixDark
Banned
ethelred said:
Good luck making a game on the PS3 or 360 that will sale right now :lol
Third party Wii games don't sell well, you're right - but at least developers aren't losing shit tons of money while developing them
You're right, but it isn't Nintendo's doing. Nintendo responded to what was happening in the market, the mass market was getting bored of playing the same things over and over again and sw sales were declining as a result. This was extremely obvious, and as sad as it is to see 3rd parties suffer, they brought it on themselves.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Doing the same as always with better graphics/minor improvements was always going to be a huge risk, certainly as big as doing something new, as many of Nintendo's main teams did.
What seems to be reviving the home console market is new, innovative games that can only be played in the home, on Wii, i.e. a new control system, and Nintendo is driving this growth. This is what happened in the handheld arena with DS.
GAF can be reactionary, to a silly level, imo in 18 months or so all this furore will be forgotten as 3rd parties finally get Wii to the extent they have invested the right resources and are having big successes on the system, just as they are on DS now. It's going to be rough inbetween, but hopefully they'll all get through it.
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Yeah but those are few and far between. How many Xbox 360 games have made the charts in the past year? I could probably count them in one hand, maybe two. Big Japanese games that do hit Xbox 360 are going to make sales, because the userbase is starved for games that attract to their tastes (which is also probably why they venture out and get games like Assassin's Creed cause they need something). The entire install base in comprised of all hardcore gamers, which is why when a big game like LO comes out we don't see hardware sales jump but rather big software sales (if you want to call them that) from the existing consumers.
sucks to see all these bombas. But I think Nintendo just went with what is selling.
They saw handheld gaming becoming the norm and the DS absolutely exploded. The Wii in Japan pretty much is there to mop up most of the stragglers. as long as MS doesnt have a handheld they really have no relevance in Japan. Im actually kind of surprised the Wii has even made it to 4 million, though Nintendo has to be happy with that number after just a year of sales. All this and no price drops, and nintensdos own software selling worldwide. I think third party just needs to advertise the living hell out of their software. thats the main problem. Its not really the quality, or the avasilability of it, its the total lack of marketing.
Hell in the US even, Ive mentioned some of the Wiis great third party offerings so far and am met with total "??????" other than what nintendo itself makes. MARKET YOUR GODDAMNED GAMES, WII THIRD PARTY.
They saw handheld gaming becoming the norm and the DS absolutely exploded. The Wii in Japan pretty much is there to mop up most of the stragglers. as long as MS doesnt have a handheld they really have no relevance in Japan. Im actually kind of surprised the Wii has even made it to 4 million, though Nintendo has to be happy with that number after just a year of sales. All this and no price drops, and nintensdos own software selling worldwide. I think third party just needs to advertise the living hell out of their software. thats the main problem. Its not really the quality, or the avasilability of it, its the total lack of marketing.
Hell in the US even, Ive mentioned some of the Wiis great third party offerings so far and am met with total "??????" other than what nintendo itself makes. MARKET YOUR GODDAMNED GAMES, WII THIRD PARTY.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
AnimeTheme said:
Holy shit Japan, you fail so hard.
Wii love golf should sell 100k or more on the Wii.
Is aiming games at the Wii Sports crowd necessarily a good idea? Seems like most of them would be content just with that. You've got to take the idea and go one step further (Wii Fit).
Mario and Sonic did okay, but Sega's only like 3 million worldwide away from their 4 million goal.
Mario and Sonic did okay, but Sega's only like 3 million worldwide away from their 4 million goal.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
HK-47 said:
Yeah, I am happy that handhelds are dominating the world.
I just don't like seeing good games fail so badly.
Y2Kev said:Is aiming games at the Wii Sports crowd necessarily a good idea? Seems like most of them would be content just with that. You've got to take the idea and go one step further (Wii Fit).
Mario and Sonic did okay, but Sega's only like 3 million worldwide away from their 4 million goal.
That's a good point..but I honestly thought that crowd would jump at a full fledged Wii Sports golf. Maybe Wii Sports golf is good enough for most of that audience?
Re: Mario and Sonic. That 4M comment includes the DS version. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it reaches it.
According to Mainichi, DQ4 broke one million shipped as of Thursday.
Hellsing321
Member
Wow We Love Golf is total bomb. I bet if Nintendo just let Capcom use Wii in the title it would have done like 30k first day.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Since you've played through NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, we could really use your impressions in the official thread.Laguna said:
DeaconKnowledge
Member
My hope is that Wii Love Golf was just poorly advertised and will grow legs a la Mario and Sonic.
Hcoregamer00 said:
Yep. That's a disgrace. Hot Shots Golf debuts at 80,000 last week and Wii can only pull this? I know HSG has pedigree, but they're basically the exact same formula. And We Love Golf is on a platform where a good golf game should be a goldmine in Japan. Disgusting.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
WOW at Wii 3rd party Software sales.....just WOW....
GT5P...not too good either....
GT5P...not too good either....
TheKingsCrown
Banned
Part of an amazing game is its marketing effort / reaching its effective target market. Zack and Wiki's presentation has no viable target market. That's not Nintendo's fault, but Capcom's.Jirotrom said:
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Jirotrom said:
Wii Love Golf,is a good game,even a very good game....
Nights as well....
I can understand bombas like Z&W and others,but every game released that day bombed,(yes even the chocobo one)....it just....those aren´t normal software figures for a console with 4 millions installed base....
Well, we did have quite a few notable games released at the same time... maybe they ate into each other too much?
We Love Golf is the real dissapointment though... that game *really* should've done better 1st day. Camelot and Capcom need to pray for Nintendo holiday legz.
Chocobo and GT5P are okay at least, both should have a respectable 1st week (if somewhat low for their respective franchise heritages). NiGHTS is too bad, but not totally surprising really... SCL is as expected though, everyone should've seen that one tanking a mile away.
We Love Golf is the real dissapointment though... that game *really* should've done better 1st day. Camelot and Capcom need to pray for Nintendo holiday legz.
Chocobo and GT5P are okay at least, both should have a respectable 1st week (if somewhat low for their respective franchise heritages). NiGHTS is too bad, but not totally surprising really... SCL is as expected though, everyone should've seen that one tanking a mile away.
hahaha, poor the Wii. The PS2 and DS have the games & the consumers the console is aiming for. Until the console creates for itself a distinctive and attractive mass market appeal (ex: Wii Fit), it's probably going to live in the shadows of the two top consoles in the software charts.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Error said:
What will happen with that Namco´s Dream Team?....
I fear for they future.....
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Needs more epic games, am I right? :lol Feel free to use 'Bu,bu,bu Resident Evil...' too.