TangoAlphaLima
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Beat ya by 6 hours on that joke, chief.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=103813454&highlight=#post103813454
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GiantBomb - TitanFall framerate in mech combat is not fixed in Xbox One retail code
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Beat ya by 6 hours on that joke, chief.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=103813454&highlight=#post103813454
If history tell us anything. Don't every buy ps console just for killzone Lol. Other than that, that no games statement is like beating a zombie horse to death.
Green Yoshi
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Perhaps it would have been wiser to only show the PC-version at the review events.
Yeah, this seems to make the most sense. It just sucks that in the end, it is the developer who picks the shortest stick.
Even though it isn't really my type of a game, I hope it will do well.
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Sweet!
Been playing all day, game is a blast
Sorry if numbers get in the way for fun for some of you guys.
Those numbers represent how smooth and responsive the game is, if they are low it impacts how enjoyable the game is to play!
SneakyStephan
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Andronicus
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Lmao this post. Never give up.
Seems like the framerate issues didnt impact the score on polygon huh?
Papacheeks
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Me too, they got my and room mates money
.Just wish Developers had more say when they want more time, especially people like Vince and his team. I mean 90 people worked on a game from Pre-alpha in the late summer and got it to go gold by End of February that is no easy task.
If only those numbers were official. Unless I'm mistaken, we haven't seen any video analysis of how bad this framerate drop actually is. Did I miss a post that went into detail about this, or are we all just taking a reviewer's word as gospel?
I really don't understand.
Are there any Source games that have 64bit builds? Maybe the memory addressing is a train wreck because there wasn't much to build from?
The framerate was fine for the vast majority of the time while on foot and only really dropped into the 40's when in a Titan. I never found it to be a hinderance to gameplay. I know you had some serious issues when you tried the beta on PC, I think you may be projecting your experiences from that onto the Xbox version. The Screen tearing was a far bigger issue than the framerate, imo.
SneakyStephan
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idk man
I know cs go suffered from stuttering when it was first released (though I did still have an average of 100++ fps) but that was patched later, never seen a source game perform like this
Papacheeks
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Actually Holly crap, I didn't think of that. Especially when you consider all the issues back in the day with Vista and Windows 7 64 bit and games like Left 4 dead. Memory crashes and issues all over the place until steam and Microsoft updated OS and the game.
Yea source is mostly handled by Dx9.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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I dunno. Team Fortress 2 runs great on my PC at very high resolutions though.
That does not mean that you can dismiss framerate as just an unimportant number!
meanspartan
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They meant the Xbox One framerate apparently. Hey-oh!
lol. But seriously, I wonder if it can be corrected via patch.
Of course not. But what I'm saying is if the framerate only dips in rare occasions, and for the most part maintains 50-60fps, then is it really that big of a deal? It seems everyone's freaking out about a few sentences of one review taken out of context of the rest of the review and is assuming the game plays like shit.
If the game really did play as awfully as some are assuming, don't you think it would have affected the scores of all the other reviews out there?
I don't know. I think they were pretty harsh to GT5 when they posted all those Forza / GT5 comparison videos showing the FPS display/graph. "Oh my, the framerate just dipped to 58 on GT5. Game is broken!" And even that game was pushing more pixels on a previous gen console. (Yes, textures, effects, etc. I know all that.) Albeit 2 completely different genres, but when it comes to dips they aren't being judged evenly, either.
Doctoglethorpe
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The framerate isn't dropping, your just witnessing the Titan's imax monitors losing power and stuttering during intense combat while its circuits get banged around. Its an immersive feature.
thats a joke
Jeff said that it dips into single digit framerates during some gameplay situations (single digits = unplayable!, so yeah, it is a big deal) and even when not in those situations, the game has some framerate hitchers (which was shown to be true by DF in the beta).
Nothing was taken out of context!
Other reviews not talking about framerate issues does not mean anything, at least not with how bad game reviewers have shown themselves to be in the past with pointing out major performance problems.
Also, take into account countries like Australia and NZ who are getting the game at the same time as the US, yet have no local Azure Servers available to them (I think, from memory, all TF traffic from Aus and NZ have to go via Singapore). Dropped frames + no local MS "Magic Cloud" is going to be a double kick to them.
From the DF beta video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_yRdB5plvg#t=0), it seems like enemy titans tank the fps. It got down to 34fps when there was 3 titans on the screen. Silky-smooth frame rates due to the cloud? Ooooooh yaaaaaaaa.
Been playing all day, game is a blast
Sorry if numbers get in the way for fun for some of you guys.
lol this guy.
this isn't resolution. frame drops definitely impact enjoyment, especially if they are regular.
Has anyone actually made those kinds of claims? Fucking PR idiots fueling delusions...
Anyways the only thing I can see "the Cloud" doing here for better gameplay is just that without being ping's not a big deal unless you're in the "wrong" region and your internet connection isn't screwy for whatever reason, and that's always the case with a good dedicated server rather than depending on everyone's home connections.
Yeah, this is NOT the kind of game to go acting like this is a complete non-issue, it's a pure MP game without a single player mode and so this sort of stuff matters in a contest of skill. Frankly I don't care that much to be angry about Titanfall failing to stay at 60 FPS all the time, it is what it is, but I'm not going to act like it simply doesn't matter because I happen to be having fun.
Bright-Light
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I have been watching twitch streams for a couple of hours, a few streamers complaining about how bad the drops are, and they seem to happen quite a bit.
Again, not exactly in depth analysis, but it appears to be enough for people to be moaning about it.
Sakura
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Forgetting about the single digit fps for a second (it seems pretty rare anyway) the frequent drops to 30~ frames and tearing sound pretty bad to me. Especially if you consider this is a multiplayer only, fast paced first person shooter. Maybe they can fix it post launch but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Tidus_Great
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so mediocre graphics, framerate, no single player. welcome to next gen on the xbox lol
Netherscourge
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Avenger54321
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That's really disappointing. I was too busy to play the beta, but it looked fun. From the videos I've seen it looked like it ran pretty smooth. I wonder how well the final PC version runs.
Beta ran like a champ for me. Never dropped below 60 and probably would have gone much higher if it wasn't locked at 60. This is with vsync off (I have a gsync monitor).
That gif sure is taking a long time to lo....oh.
Heh, I saw that shortly afterwards, though looking at the specific quote I wonder if the writer might be jumping to conclusions. There's benefits just for having a central server do that stuff rather than trying to keep things in sync when run across multiple machines, but given the CPUs we have now and how important they actually seem to be for game processing I doubt those generic enemies were really taxing. Hell, I'm not sure those kinds of enemies have been taxing since the PS2 days with Dynasty Warriors breaking out then.
bigboss370
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Soo is the problem related to the game engine or the hardware (X1)? I'd like to think the former, since people on PC also complain of framerate drops I believe.
beautiful
Honestly, he's not wrong. Graphics don't look great, the framerate is rocky and there isn't a single player component.
It's really disappointing for a "next generation" console. It might be Respawns fault for a poorly optimized game, but it definitely doesn't seem like a false trend so far.
Framerate drops existed on the PC beta, even on a high-end rig, so it's likely to be the engine and not necessarily the XO that's causing it. But we'll probably have to wait for Digital Foundry's evaluation to learn more about the situation. I'm more than sure they'll go into it.
He's not completely wrong and not completely right, but his attempt at a joke is very lowest common denominator.
Not to mention the game is also for Windows and exhibited some of the same framerate and tearing problems during the beta. So it's likely the game engine just needs some patching in general.
I was in the beta.
mid-range rig.
i5 2400k @ 3.8GHz, GTX 570 1.2Gb VRAM, 8GB DDR3 RAM.
With adaptive V-Sync forced and texture resolutions set to high (as opposed to insane) the game ran pretty consistently at 60fps.
Holy shit I thought my phone connection was bad, until I remembered I'm on wifi.
Edit: derp, it was my connection. Gif was moving a slow and I was like "Ha ha, clever."
SteveWinwood
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Just in case that guy still cares and might see this, they're doing a live quick look tomorrow.
http://www.giantbomb.com/
i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz, GTX 670, 8GB DDR3 RAM.
1920x1080, textures set to Insane.
FPS dipped down to 40 at times, tearing evident. Regardless, we're discussing a game that hasn't had any patches yet. It might not be the most impressive next-gen game we've ever seen, but it's definitely not the worst, and Respawn has said they're continuing to optimize it. They've been very upfront with us about everything so far, so why are we suddenly doubting them?
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