I guess NOA and NOE have lower standards. I guess that explains why NOA was so against publishing Xenoblade Chronicles.
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Devil's Third - NoA Drops Plans For US Release (Unseen 64)
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I guess NOA and NOE have lower standards. I guess that explains why NOA was so against publishing Xenoblade Chronicles.
Triggerhappytel
Member
While I can't blame the decision from a certain point of view because I think the game looks balls, I don't think Nintendo is in a situation to be refusing to publish software; especially first party stuff like this. Even if they just released it as an eShop exclusive so there are no overheads, and it must already be translated into English, French and Spanish which I guess would cover all standard NA languages?
Windows RT
Banned
I feel bad for Itakagi san. He deserves to have more budget for his game. MS, it is your time to step in for his next game.
I will buy Devil's Third even it is a shitty game.
I will buy Devil's Third even it is a shitty game.
JetSetRadio
Banned
I am really not seeing why this shouldn't be released, it doesn't look that bad to be honest.
It couldn't sell worse than W101 right?
It couldn't sell worse than W101 right?
This can't be overstated enough. Valhalla fucked up. The reception on re-reveal was deplorable and for good reason.
I imagine there's a decent chance Nintendo and/or Itagaki will look for a publisher willing to pick the game up for a muted release, I wouldn't be surprised if the lack of even an eShop release is because Itagaki would want the game to have physical availability. That said, the game wouldn't be in it's mess if it seemed to have any evident semblance of quality control behind it, proof enough being that no one wanted to pick this up after THQ fell under.
Falling back on a game is perfectly reasonable if the publisher doesn't like where it's going. That's probably a prevalent reason for most cancellations. It's easy to let the mind assume something's better than it's made out to be when you don't have the chance to play it, but with as bad of a reception as this had both on reveal and now after accounts from people who played it, it screams Duke Nukem Forever levels of "perhaps what was left to the imagination was better". Hell I remember for a moment on reveal I actually thought it was somewhat decent but I've since lost complete interest considering the jank-levels were hard to overlook and I had assumed they'd be ironed out after another year in development.
Haha.
Probably a sensible decision by NOA. No one would be begging for release if the game was being published by EA.
Wasn't the game essentially restarted after THQ dropped it from their line-up? I mean, Valhalla had to switch to Unreal engine 3 and drop at least two platforms (not including the PC and tablet ports by the defunct Doobic). The main character looks completely different than the debut trailer. It would seem that this iteration of the game was made mostly under Nintendo's watch.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Man, I've noticed a lot of hate for Star Fox Zero in this thread. I think that game looks like a ton of fun.
You'd rather have a loud, stupid game developed by Itagaki's ghost than a Platinum developed StarFox?
OK...
It's the most un-platinum game ever, you can tell they don't have much say in the actual game. It looks pedestrian and boring, even the crazy/fun visuals aren't there. I bet 99% of people wouldn't even realise Star Fox was getting co-developed by platinum if they didn't announce it. So yes, I'd rather play Devils Turd than star Fox right now.
i thought the controls were weird but the level design was good.
Unfortunately there is nothing Platinum in that game. Slow action and non spectacular looking is like the antithesis of Platinum Games.
Who knows, maybe Platinum Games hasn't started yet working on they part of Star Fox Zero.
yeah but infinite space is like one of their best games
Devil's Third underwent two engine switches before Unreal Engine 3. After a change to an engine by Relic, it eventually changed to Vigil's Darksiders II engine. The Unreal Engine 3 switch was most likely spurred by the company going defunct. There was still a time when Valhalla had a seeming level of autonomy in terms of self-producing while looking for a publisher and presumably that's when UE3 entered the picture. Itagaki originally wanted the game out in 2014 and going by most accounts it seems like Nintendo must have acquired the publishing rights some time late 2013 or early 2014.
I don't think the general aesthetic change of the game was brought on by Nintendo necessarily since during the reveal, Itagaki explained the full impetus of going with that particular stylistic approach and main character. Keep in mind that the debut trailer was revealed way back in 2010, only a year after Valhalla was established. Plenty of changes must have happened beyond just Nintendo within development
papercan55
Member
you have no idea, they are super busy...
zelda nx
star fox nx edition
animal cossing nx
mario nx
diddy kong racing 2 nx
pikmin 4 nx
Anyone that really thinks they should be wasting any time with this title is crazy.
Even if the game is good there's a 90% chance it will score low with reviewers and sell poorly.
They have more than an entire years worth of games which need moving from wii u to the nx ready for launch next holiday, and that's alongside games which have been made specifically for nx.
the wii u is already getting yoshi, star fox, xenoblade and animal crossing which is plenty for a fall release schedule.
I didn't play it, as I never was into handhelds. But reading and setting a bit about it, wasn't a different genre?
At least they reused the assets.
/jk
YianGaruga
Banned
Triggerhappytel
Member
Nintendo own the publishing rights. Under what terms exactly would you be looking to sue them?
imagine gurren lagann except good the whole way through and that's what infinite space was.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Time for everyone to buy it. :3
Triggerhappytel
Member
What exactly would NoA be doing for these
imaginary
Just another symptom of the weirdness going on at NoA. I feel like they need a real shakeup over there BEFORE the NX platform is launched. It's reached the point where Reggie and co are almost antagonizing fans.
This was one of the most important changes both Sony and Microsoft made this time around. I think painting a picture of a "new" Nintendo could really help their situation.
This was one of the most important changes both Sony and Microsoft made this time around. I think painting a picture of a "new" Nintendo could really help their situation.
Acquiescence
Member
The game doesn't even look that bad. I always thought it looked mildly intriguing myself, and I say that without even acknowledging the gratuitous asian ass shot that featured in the trailer from last year.
I mean, it's just such a shitty thing to do on NoA's part. The Wii U is starving for exclusives, and you're going to deny your audience the opportunity to play one because you don't think it's good enough? Let the gamers be the judge of that, especially after you were confident enough in the game that you let it feature in your E3 direct, thus granting it all that exposure. And it's no wonder people are always kicking up a fuss about region-locking when shit like this is pulled off. At least if the Wii U was region-free then folks could import with minimal issues, but they can't even do that. Anyone in America who wants to play this game is fucked.
dat ass tho
I mean, it's just such a shitty thing to do on NoA's part. The Wii U is starving for exclusives, and you're going to deny your audience the opportunity to play one because you don't think it's good enough? Let the gamers be the judge of that, especially after you were confident enough in the game that you let it feature in your E3 direct, thus granting it all that exposure. And it's no wonder people are always kicking up a fuss about region-locking when shit like this is pulled off. At least if the Wii U was region-free then folks could import with minimal issues, but they can't even do that. Anyone in America who wants to play this game is fucked.
I didn't know about the earlier engine switch. Yikes! Even more troubled than I thought.
In 2012, Eurogamer reported that "three billion yen (about £2,448,360) has been spent on the game since it began development in 2009." That's ridiculously low. With Doobic going out of business, THQ dropping the game, and the studio still shopping it around to potential publishers in mid-2013 it would seem production was very stop and start. Itagaki said the game was 80% complete at the end of 2013.
THQ probably announced Devil's Third the second it left pre-production.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
It's coming.
it could really just be a return on investment thing where noa just doesn't have the time to devote to this. this game is getting buried in japan too, so it's not like iwata seems to be a fan of it.
the wii u has enough exclusives. what it lacks is multiplatform games. this was not going to make or break the wii u's lineup this year, or change its fortunes.
To be fair, Devil's Third wasn't in the actual E3 Direct. It was saved for IGN's exclusive stream so the exposure was much smaller. It did get one or two Treehouse demos on the second or third day but it was a fairly tepid showing that was kind of mocked by people here for half of it consisting of slideshow pictures explaining the multiplayer.
papercan55
Member
you just answered your own question, they are all complete and need translating/advertising to be ready for 200 million new nx owners ;-)
Agreed. I said it before but it amazes me Nintendo even has fans in north America with the way they get treated. Reggie is awful.
Bioshocker
Member
So that kind of explains why Nintendo didn't bother to show anything at their Digital Event at E3.
Anyway, There will be no cancel on releasing this game to NA. Good.
Yeah, time to show NoA they would have bought Another Code or Disaster : Day of Crisis.
clevbrowns94
Member
If it's so bad, don't publish it at all or just have as Japan only. I think it has more to do with the quality of NOA than the game. And so what if it will bomb? It will bomb in Japan and Europe and yet they get a release. Plus a system needs games and you have to keep current owners happy even though this won't be selling systems. I just hope someone publishes it.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Someone is.
clevbrowns94
Member
No thanks to NOA. And we will likely have to thank them for digital only Fatal Frame.
SatoAilDarko
Member
Feel like it should be a new thread. Anyway yeah, its probably Xseed.
I'll be there Day 1. It probably is a 6/10 game but what I see I like a lot. I love Japanese hack and slash jank.
I'm still super curious about Fatal Frame V. It doesn't have a psychical listing on stores. Even Devil's Third has that from last year.
It'll be really messed up if Devil's Third gets a physical release but Fatal Frame doesn't in North America.
It's amazing really. NoA is the only Nintendo branch that has a PR specialist as head (Iwata is not really present in US that much) and has produced the most incidents with negative feedback from the fans. Maybe they should replace Reggie with someone that knows what games are.
Dr. Buni
Member
Yeah. Nothing of value was lost.
I'm sorry, but i won't buy it. The Game looks just okay to me. I mean, the Multiplayer seems fun, but thats it.
Additional to that i have a huge Backlog on the Vita, and my Wii U is just 6 Days old. I have yet to get Mario Kart, Smash Bros and Splatoon, and some other WiiU Games.
Devils Third is not something i plan to get anytime soon because of that. Sorry.
But what is a bad game?
I tried playing the original dmc like five minutes ago, and it was bad--no camera control, confusing level layout, no tutorial, janky movment. I'd bet ninja gaiden black also is bad in similar ways.
Should the hd version of dmc1 never have been released? Is it a good thing NGblack is not available any more?