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System re-designs.. which ones never had them
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Dreamwriter
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Shiggy said:
Never used? I and all my friends used the component-cable port, it was the way to get the best graphics out of the thing, even with games that didn't support 480p. The problem is Nintendo just never released the dang component cables in stores, only directly, and eventually stopped selling the cable period. Nintendo has *always* thought that their customers won't ever have decent TV's.
AzureNightmare
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Dont forget the bulky, but ever so sexy Panasonic QShiggy said:
Gameboy415
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racerx77 said:To my knowledge the few systems that were never re-designed during their life cycle were the original xbox, xbox 360 (so far) ,sega dreamcast and the turbographx 16.
any others (I'm only including consoles- not handhelds) that I'm missing?
Well Turbografx-16 looked a helluva lot different when it was originally released in Japan (as PC Engine):
Ninja Moomin
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speculawyer said:
Actually the Saturn had several models from other manufacturers and a revision from sega.
FrostuTheNinja
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One could argue that the TurboExpress is a redesign of the TurboGrafx-16.
It's a great little system.
It's a great little system.
B1gg_Randall
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The Sega Gensis had 3 re designs...4 if you count the normad (correct me if im wrong 
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)maniac-kun
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not true i saw this in toys r us in germanyracerx77 said:well, the 32x sort of did with the neptune (but it never made it to release of course)..
Acctully we are now up to 7 in NA. Anther company licensed the tech from Sega last year and there is now a "Model 4" or what they call 'Firecore'B1gg_Randall said:The Sega Gensis had 3 re designs...4 if you count the normad (correct me if im wrong
Its tiny!
And you can't forget the CDX or the X'eye.
Rocksteady33
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Drkirby said:Acctully we are now up to 7 in NA. Anther company licensed the tech from Sega last year and there is now a "Model 4" or what they call 'Firecore'
Its tiny!
And you can't forget the CDX or the X'eye.
I don't believe that's official. Rather clones start ramping up 20 years after their release (copyright is up?).
I believe Genesis Model 3 was the last official version (or I guess the Nomad).
Segata Sanshiro
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I think I understand HUELEN's dysfunction with regards to the DSi a little better now.
Rocksteady33
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Nintendo Systems:
NES -> NES Top Loader -> NES TV
SNES -> SNES Jr.
Nintendo 64 -> Nintendo iQue (this is questionable)
GameCube -> Panasonic Q
Game Boy -> Game Boy Pocket/Game Boy Light/Game Boy Color
Game Boy Advance -> Game Boy Advance SP/Game Boy Advance SP Bright/Game Boy micro
Nintendo DS -> Nintendo DS Lite/Nintendo DSi/Nintendo DSi XL
SEGA Systems:
Master System -> Master System II -> Master System III
Genesis -> Genesis 2 -> Genesis 3 -> Nomad
Saturn -> Saturn 2 (although the changes are incredibly minimal)
SEGA CD -> SEGA CD 2
Sony Systems:
PlayStation -> PSone
PlayStation 2 -> PStwo -> PSX
PlayStation 3 -> PlayStation 3 Slim
PSP -> PSP 2000 -> PSP 3000 -> PSP Go
Other Systems:
N-Gage -> N-Gage QD
Atari 2600 -> Atari 2600 Jr.
Intellivision -> Intellivision II
WonderSwan -> WonderSwan Color
Neo Geo Pocket -> Neo Geo Pocket Color
GP2X -> GP2X Wiz
NES -> NES Top Loader -> NES TV
SNES -> SNES Jr.
Nintendo 64 -> Nintendo iQue (this is questionable)
GameCube -> Panasonic Q
Game Boy -> Game Boy Pocket/Game Boy Light/Game Boy Color
Game Boy Advance -> Game Boy Advance SP/Game Boy Advance SP Bright/Game Boy micro
Nintendo DS -> Nintendo DS Lite/Nintendo DSi/Nintendo DSi XL
SEGA Systems:
Master System -> Master System II -> Master System III
Genesis -> Genesis 2 -> Genesis 3 -> Nomad
Saturn -> Saturn 2 (although the changes are incredibly minimal)
SEGA CD -> SEGA CD 2
Sony Systems:
PlayStation -> PSone
PlayStation 2 -> PStwo -> PSX
PlayStation 3 -> PlayStation 3 Slim
PSP -> PSP 2000 -> PSP 3000 -> PSP Go
Other Systems:
N-Gage -> N-Gage QD
Atari 2600 -> Atari 2600 Jr.
Intellivision -> Intellivision II
WonderSwan -> WonderSwan Color
Neo Geo Pocket -> Neo Geo Pocket Color
GP2X -> GP2X Wiz
Segata Sanshiro
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Technically there are at least four obvious renditions of that system. The Famicom, the Toaster, the JP Toploader (aka the AV Famicom, as it added AV connection to the Famicom), and the US Toploader (which actually took out the AV connection from the Toaster model).Raist said:
Segata Sanshiro
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Ah yes, don't know how I forgot that.Shig said:
The AV Famicom is the one I have. Picked it up just before Christmas along with an assortment of games. unf
B1gg_Randall
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umm no lol...But anywy the "new" Xbox controller was just the japanese xbox controller...JGS said:
I don't see why you arrive at that conclusion. The Pikachu N64 required an entirely different mold, and aside from the extended side with Pikachu actually has some pretty noteworthy design changes (elimination of the system's 'feet' in the front corners, casing narrows as it approaches the front, rather than widens). It's a wildly superfluous redesign, sure, but it's a redesign. The Halo Xbox on the other hand, is the exact same case mold in a different color.JGS said:
megashock5
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Drkirby said:
And didn't Majesco make some of the later Genesis models?
I wish Sega would have licensed them to make new Dreamcast models after they stopped production. My GD-ROM drive is acting up.
There was a rerelease of the system dubbed 'Kids Gear' in Japan that had a slightly redesigned casing and apparently loaded cartridges in the opposite direction of the original GG. Did some searching; it's fuckin' impossible to find a pic of the standard one apparently, but here's the Virtua Fighter edition:Drkirby said:
Looks pretty well slimmed down from the original, I think it safely qualifies as a redesign.
B1gg_Randall said:
:lol You guys take your redesign challenges seriously!
However, I thought they switched the controller for S all the way around.
FAKE EDIT- I was right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox
Now, I don't want to start anything, so I will assume this isn't a part of a redesign.
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
JGS said:
Well the S controller was standard at the console release in Japan. It was brought over to the US and became more popular, and thus replaced the Duke, and I assume the same thing happened in other places around the world.
The only difference is that Microsoft stopped packaging the system with the Duke and packaged it with an S controller. That's not a system redesign, simply a packaging variant.
A Black Falcon
Member
Shig said:
Right. Also, as was said earlier, the existence of the iQue gives an even better reason why the N64 shouldn't be on this list.
Drkirby said:
Shig said:There was a rerelease of the system dubbed 'Kids Gear' in Japan that had a slightly redesigned casing and apparently loaded cartridges in the opposite direction of the original GG. Did some searching; it's fuckin' impossible to find a pic of the standard one apparently, but here's the Virtua Fighter edition:
Looks pretty well slimmed down from the original, I think it safely qualifies as a redesign.
Huh... woah, I've never heard of that. Why didn't Majesco use THAT shell for their GG re-release? Also, what kind of battery life does it get? Any better than the original system?
Anyway, the other Game Gear redesign was the US-only Majesco Game Gear, released in 2000 and on sale maybe just until 2001 or so. The Majesco Game Gear uses the original Game Gear's shell shape, recolors it. The color is Genesis black instead of original GG grey. Also the power plug is black like the rest of the shell, not yellow or orange or whatever, the start button is purple instead of blue, and the three colored bars in the Game Gear logo are all white instead of being red, blue, and green. The insides were changed a little too -- the battery life is still an awful 7 hours max on 6 AAs, but the screen was improved and is much less blurry, and they did not use the bad capacitors Sega did as far as I know so you won't have the failing sound and graphics problems that plague Sega-model GGs. The only real negative is that it's incompatible with the TV Tuner.
Majesco did not release any new games for the relaunch, but did re-release some titles. These games have dark black cartridges, the same color as the Majesco GG, instead of grey carts the same color as the original system as Sega used. Put a Majesco and a Sega cart next to eachother and it's easy to tell the difference just based on color.
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