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Drake, Wayne, Kanye, and Eminem on one track.
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Kastro said:
Right, so everyone is wrong whereas you are correct... Relapse is nowhere near his best work. Hopefully, Relapse 2 can rectify that.
Which album is their "good album," per se? They have a couple of weak albums, but even those have several killer tracks on them. There's more good songs on UGK 4 Life, easily their weakest album, than Eminem has put out this decade. If you can't recognize them as one of the best rap duos of all time, you're completely deluded.Kastro said:
Eminem is technically a great MC, top 5 all time. But his content has been completely watered down for this entire decade. He hasn't put out a great album in 10 years. At that point he let his MTV-aimed filler take over, and decided to waste all his skills on "mercing" Mariah Carey and the Olsen Twins. Oh boy.
Pimp C has been cosigned by pretty much the entire south, and basically everyone (apparently, except for you!) has nothing but respect for UGK. For 20 years they put out the music they wanted to. When they started, rap wasn't respected in the South. And obviously, you still don't respect it. You don't have to like it, but UGK helped put the South on the map. If you don't like rap about sipping lean and wood grain wheels, then don't listen to UGK. You don't have to like it, but don't come in here saying that "people only care about Pimp because he died" and that UGK put out one good album. That's just ignorant.
I'm from way up north and I love the hell out of the south. Hell, dude, Rich Boy has put out more fire on mixtapes in the last year than Eminem has put out this decade. Just because southern rap doesn't appeal to your sensibilities doesn't make it garbage. GUCCI!
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Kastro said:
Kastro said:
Most people don't really rate Relapse and seeing as you just called those people sheep, you are pretty much saying that everyone is wrong (sheep) and you are right (non sheep).
Why the fuck are you being so defensive for anyway? You're taking everything so personally. Did you ghost write Relapse or something?
When did I ever say that it's not worth listening to? I only said Relapse was not his best work. I still listen to it. Learn to read dude.
Lambtron said:
Rich Boy? It's clear you have shit taste in hip hop so I'm not even going to waste my time. Also you seem to have heard nothing from Eminem besides his singles you've seen on MTV.
Your idea of quality hip hop seems to be based on whether something is a "banger".
UGK's only good album is Ridin' Dirty, the rest is entirely forgettable.
Also lol @ glorifying "sipping lean" when it's what caused Pimp C's death.
Well that was certainly a well thought out response to the points I clearly laid out.
You said you're not going to respond. I hope you don't.
Rich Boy is horribly underrated, and he has blossomed into a pretty great MC. But hey, if you don't listen to it you don't have to believe me. My taste in hip hop is wide ranging, and greatly varied. And hip hop is one small percentage of the music I listen to. I hate most "bangers," but I love good ones. Just because I love UGK, Rich Boy, Young Jeezy, and Project Pat doesn't mean I only listen to that kind of stuff. I listen to more than my fair share of Kool Keith, dälek, El-P, blah blah blah. I like good music, and I don't dismiss something as bad music because it's not considered "intelligent." Most "intelligent" hip hop is boring. Common? Sucks. Kanye West? Hasn't put out a good hip hop album since Late Registration. Talib Kweli? Sucks. But hey, you were pretty close at your attempt at pigeonholing me.Kastro said:
Alright. I'd argue that Super Tight.... is as good as Ridin' Dirty, at least. The first disc of Underground Kingz is of that same quality. I guess you just have crap taste in hip hop.
See what I did there?
I'm not glorifying it. That's what they wrote about. That's what they lived. Sleep apnea caused Pimp C's death at least as much as lean. I wish he was still alive, it kills me that there aren't many Pimp C verses left for me to hear. Unfortunately I have a lifetime of new Eminem trash ahead of me.
You said you're not going to respond. I hope you don't.
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It amuses me that Kastro's leading argument in this discussion boils down to "you have shit taste." Doesn't seem like a very intelligent argument. But then again, maybe my retarded southern rap-addled brain can't process the complex logic at work here.
Kreed said:
A lot of you guys are kinda dumb or sarcasm has to go (sarcasm)(/sarcasm). Whoever said the SH album was just about the decline, buy the album, listen to raindrops, salute, etc. Also, realize competitive, I'm better than you rap is more of a style than an extended whine.
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Best verse from Eminem since his Alchemist freestyle earlier this summer. Overall this Drake track is forgettable though.
PhoenixDark
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:lolKastro said:
Em is obviously a better rapper than Pimp C (and Bun B...). But your comments are ridiculous
He was a great producer and while his lyrical content wasn't particularly enlightening he could make you forgive it thanks to his charisma and charm.
Blackace
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Did someone come in here and just dog Pimp C for no reason whatsoever and then defend it with saying the south is ruining rap?
:lol :lol :lol
Sorry to say, but UGK is one of the OGs of Hip Hop without groups and rappers like them there would be no Em..
:lol :lol :lol
Sorry to say, but UGK is one of the OGs of Hip Hop without groups and rappers like them there would be no Em..
Knux-Future
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wtf why does every HipHop topic go off into
LOL YOUR TASTE IS WACK COMPARED TO MINE
just talk about the damn song....wtf guys? we are not Sohh.
LOL YOUR TASTE IS WACK COMPARED TO MINE
just talk about the damn song....wtf guys? we are not Sohh.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Kastro said:
Popping pills and killing your baby mother, or dissing a celebrity... we can play that game all day. His subject matter wouldn't be accepted if it wasn't for rappers like UGK; songs like "I got a pocket full of stones" got radio play because it got so popular.. people were trying to censor the content and so on.. if guys like that.. (not only UGK before you try to twist it anymore) have not been around Em wouldn't have much he could say..
PhoenixDark
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Wow, looks like I'm on Kastro's line of the sand now. :lol
Resurrection is one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time. Sure Common in 2009 sucks, but that doesn't take away from him as an overall artist
Resurrection is one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time. Sure Common in 2009 sucks, but that doesn't take away from him as an overall artist
Lambtron said:
What does that even mean? It has been just about 10 years since SSLP. Are you saying he hasn't done anything since then.....your not really making sense. People seem to only give recognition to the present day. He was amazing these past 10 years......Relapse was ridiculously hyped and was a letdown, if it weren't for that release you wouldn't be saying this.
PhoenixDark
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Eminem has been trash for some time, but he obviously has the talent/ability to still rap. He just doesn't seem to give a fuck about proving anything.
Everyone falls off eventually. Unless you're Ghostface of course
Everyone falls off eventually. Unless you're Ghostface of course
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
PhoenixDark said:
You mean Method Man right?
Encore wasn't so hot as well, but relaspe was really bad..
I blame Dre as much as Em..
To be honest I have not heard a Dre beat that just brings it in some time..
And from a west coast guy that just hurts to say.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Kastro said:
How so? You can say that UGK only talks about Rims and Hoes but someone else's opinon is so incorrect.. pfffttt..
I liked some tracks on HHNF and actually can listen to most of the album with having to change tracks which is something that doesn't happen much these days...
But that doesn't mean I was blown away or felt that it was a great album. I think mostly I am not too fond of the Neptunes' overall sound. For an entire album it really sounds blah.
ShinobiFist
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Respect the KING, fam. Alot of you Drake "Hipster" loving bastards have no idea how UGK influnce the Rap game. If you was a Rap fan, you wouldn't say something like that.Kastro said:
PhoenixDark
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HHNF is overrated. Lots of average punchlines and re-treads of ground Ghostface/Raekwon did far better with far more energy and lyricism. Don't get me wrong it's a good album but the love it gets always puzzled me
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Anth0ny said:
Where is the MMLP????????????????????????????????????????????
Yeah I understand having a hometown hero and all that and loving them rap.. but as long you know deep down inside he isn't as clever as people make him out to be..
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