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Is Anime one of the dirtiest entertaiment businesses out there?

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Broach

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The animators get paid even less than people working at McDonalds. Minimum wage.

Then they sell the Anime and Merch ridicioulusly overpriced, just so to couple of thousand freaks buy it. And they don't make it cheaper cause it's proven that only these couple of thousands will buy it. And to an extent they are selling alot of these people legal kiddy porn and other fetishes, they are exploiting them. If they make the Animator's salary higher the Anime would not be affordable anymore to sell.

I dunno I think it's pretty fucking shady. It's like the most colorful underground deal ever.
 
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BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
I wonder if Broach is brave enough to go to the geekGAF thread and tell them they are freaks for buying merchandise based off of anime and manga.
 
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NaughtyCalibur

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I really hate the generalization about anime fans and their fetishes. Such bullshit.

But I do also have a problem with animator salaries. I'd be interested in a documentary on the subject.
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
"Good" anime doesn't sell very well, just look at Dennou Coil. 10 years in the making and it was a financial bomb.

The state of anime as it is now is the only version of the industry that can survive in this climate.
 
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Good Job Bob

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Broach said:
not entertaiment
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Freezasaurus

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Haly said:
"Good" anime doesn't sell very well, just look at Dennou Coil. 10 years in the making and it was a financial bomb.

The state of anime as it is now is the only version of the industry that can survive in this climate.
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Is that also the reason the standard length of a series dropped from 25/26 episodes to 13?
 
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NaughtyCalibur

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Haly said:
"Good" anime doesn't sell very well, just look at Dennou Coil. 10 years in the making and it was a financial bomb.

The state of anime as it is now is the only version of the industry that can survive in this climate.
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I actually didn't know Dennou Coil bombed. That sucks.

Guess that explains why it wasn't picked up in the States.
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Freezasaurus said:
Is that also the reason the standard length of a series dropped from 25/26 to 13?
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I'm not sure, not familiar with the broadcasting length of older anime series.

But you're right in that this is one of the reasons we don't get 100 episode monstrosities like Urusai Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku and Legend of the Galactic heroes anymore (except for endless shounen).
 
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Makoto

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Broach said:
Then they sell the Anime and Merch ridicioulusly overpriced, just so to couple of thousand freaks buy it.
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I have to say, one thing about this I don't get is the obsession over figurines. Sometimes I see pictures of people's rooms and they have rows and shelves lined with these things and "wut" is honestly the only thing going through my mind when I see it.
 
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Freezasaurus

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Haly said:
I'm not sure, not familiar with the broadcasting length of older anime series.

But you're right in that this is one of the reasons we don't get 100 episode monstrosities like Urusai Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku and Legend of the Galactic heroes anymore (except for endless shounen).
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The older stuff was usually around 26 episodes or so. Back before Blu-Ray, when everything was most commonly being released piecemeal across 8 DVDs, with 4 episodes per. Which is just downright laughable now.

Either way, anime is still expensive as fuck if you want physical media. Crunchyroll FTW.
 
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Broach

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Well I guess Anime is just a really strange type of business that makes significant money. It's actually the strangest.
 
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Manmademan

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Broach said:
Well I guess Anime is just a really strange type of business that makes significant money. It's actually the strangest.
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nowhere close.

edit: This is what the CIA did during the 1950s. I'd bet serious money worse shit is done by them now, or by intelligence worldwide.

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Operation Midnight Climax was an operation initially established by Sidney Gottlieb and placed under the direction of Narcotics Bureau officer George Hunter White under the alias of Morgan Hall for the CIA as a sub-project of Project MKULTRA, the CIA mind-control research program that began in the 1950s.[1]

The project consisted of a web of CIA-run safehouses in San Francisco, Marin, and New York. It was established in order to study the effects of LSD on unconsenting individuals. Prostitutes on the CIA payroll were instructed to lure clients back to the safehouses, where they were surreptitiously plied with a wide range of substances, including LSD, and monitored behind one-way glass. Several significant operational techniques were developed in this theater, including extensive research into sexual blackmail, surveillance technology, and the possible use of mind-altering drugs in field operations.[citation needed]

The safehouses were dramatically scaled back in 1962, following a report by CIA Inspector General John Earman that strongly recommended closing the facility. The San Francisco safehouses were closed in 1965, and the New York City safehouse soon followed in 1966.
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your government was running top secret LSD fueled mind control experiments using hookers. But tell us again how strange anime is.
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Broach said:
Well I guess Anime is just a really strange type of business that makes significant money. It's actually the strangest.
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The reason you're not getting serious replies and mostly focusing on the porn derail is because the argument in the OP is pretty half-cocked. Its partially a generalized "anime and its fans suck" claim and half demonizing the entire industry as loli-pedo bait (which is of course, not entirely inaccurate, but its all very generalized).

In other words, you're making cartoons of cute girls doing cute things sound like a Mexican drug cartel without any particular evidence.
 
V

Vulcano's assistant

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How many times is Broach going to get avatar quoted this week?


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As for the topic, I think pretty much any cartoon nowadays has a similar business model were the labor is outsourced and underpaid, unless it was something like the Clone Wars.
 
Jex

Jex

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Freezasaurus said:
Is that also the reason the standard length of a series dropped from 25/26 episodes to 13?
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I've never read anything that would confirm that suspicion, but average season length has definitely reduced over time, at least according to the data I crunched.
 
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B!TCH

how are you, B!TCH? How is your day going, B!ITCH?
Just how lucrative is anime? I am not familiar with the anime business but what is stopping the animators from getting another job if it's as bad as you say it is?
 
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