ViciousDS said:

yes, that first planet was...........terrible. just everything. Combat is fucking amazing.....and I actually don't mind the animations as much as I thought I would.


Scanning is the worst part of the game though

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Renekton said:

Scanning is clunky.

Should streamline to one button and mouse-look, also remove the projection effect and just highlight key POIs within area around target reticle.

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Maledict said:

Meh, I'm not even enjoying the multiplayer. Not only does it look worse than ME3 on my PC due to the graphics settings, but it seems to have a number of issues:

1) The enemies simply aren't as interesting or varied as those in ME3. Geth, Collectors, Reapers and Cerberus all had character and different styles, this doesn't seem to be the same.

2) Enemies feel like bullet sponges in a way they didn't in ME3.

3) Bronze is definitely harder - I've been failing numerous missions right now.

4) Possibly because of the change in engine, but it seems like you can have a lot more enemies on the map at once now, and they can spawn much closer to you. That's removed a lot of strategy from the game that I enjoyed.

Some of it I'm sure will be adjusted with patches and free DLC - right now none of the characters are that interesting,. but neither was the initial ME3 roster. But all in all it doesn't feel like the return to form I was praying for, and whilst I like the unlinked power cooldown it's not enough for me to justify buying the game and investing in it.

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FrontalMonk said:

I'll give you that Bronze at least seems harder, but I think there's some rose tinted glasses there, because I remember failing the first few attempts in Bronze when I started off, and only beating them once I had levelled up a little and gotten some equipment, and the same things seems to have happened here. I "cleared" bronze for the first time this morning doing an APEX mission, but the airquotes are there because on the last wave I got wedged between a Fiend and an Ascendant and the Fiend ate me, but the rest of the group extracted.

I also realized on this last run that it was the first time a PUG I was with cleared wave 6...and then remembered that I have these things called Cobra RPGs that clear the big nasties real quick that I still haven't used.

So I think the game seems harder now, but will seem easier once we level up some and get some gear, just like in ME3MP.

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WhoDey Beerman said:

Yup, getting PUGs to use consumbles on wave 6 is the biggest challenge. Or just even equiping ammo powers. You lose half the combo potential by not doing so. In ME3 I had consumbles for years so don't horde them.

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Reizo Ryuu said:

1 more thing that sucks about MP...
Why are y'all joining silver and up with lvl 1 characters... like the game doesn't even default to random, but to bronze so you actively have to pick it...

Please, please stop doing this people.

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EatChildren said:

Anecdotal, but as an example of how quickly word and reviews spread: my boss loves his video games, and has cited on a number of occasions that The Last of Us, the Mass Effect trilogy, and The Witcher 3 are his favourite games ever. He has no particular platform allegiance, playing Civ on PC, Pokemon on his DS, and currently Zelda on his Switch and Horizon on PS4. He definitely does a lot of gaming, a huge amount, but isn't so entrenched in gaming culture that he visits forums or argues about developers or anything. He's the kind of guy to get his fix by just general buzz and word of mouth, YouTubing trailers every now and then, and still buys magazines. He loves having a gasbag to me about games because I think I'm one of the few people in the company he can.

Today he visited our office and immediately said to me that Andromeda wasn't getting many good reviews and despite his love for the series he'll be waiting awhile before he buys it. Not that I mind, it's his choice and that's the purpose or reviews, but yeah. That's how fast buzz travels.

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EatChildren said:

As I've said before, if this tanks in sales I'd say EA will do as Ubisoft have done to Deus Ex.

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Dany said:

Square makes Deus ex? and what do you mean?

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Maledict said:

So how did patch 1.04 affect the game?

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Singleplayer

• Fixed an issue whereby players were unable to land on Ark Natanus
• Fixed an issue whereby the game loaded to a black screen or ran as a background process when Corsair Utility Engine or similar programs were running

Multiplayer

• Fixed an issue causing players to stop hearing their character’s audio and start hearing another player’s instead
• Fixed an issue causing the game to crash when using the Human Male Soldier and F key

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General

• Overall performance improvements
• Fixed an issue with the title only accepting input from the last controller synced when two controllers are assigned to the same profile
• Fixed various collision issues
• Fixed a few rare audio issues

Singleplayer

• Improvements to many cinematics, conversations, and other character interactions
• Improved quest rewards
• Fixed an issue whereby a door could become jammed in mission 5
• Fixed issues with objective markers not appearing correctly
• Minor performance improvements after some Tempest transitions
• Fixed an issue whereby the combat music was not functioning as designed
• Fixed some minor quest-related issues
• Fixed a small cinematic issue during the Drack loyalty quest
• Minor balancing change to the “Remove the Heart” quest
• Improvements to quest tracking and waypoints

Multiplayer

• Improvements to Strike Teams UI screens
• Additional multiplayer tutorials implemented
• Balance changes to guns, reward packs, and objectives scoring
• Improved appearance of character portraits
• Added new artwork for MP characters, armor, and challenges in menus and codex entries

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Bisnic said:

Not sure what's everyone problem with Eos? Thought it was fine mostly(the underground part was cool), other than the Nomad sucking at even going up a normal road sometimes, plus trying to find minerals with it.

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EatChildren said:

As I've said before, if this tanks in sales I'd say EA will do as Ubisoft have done to Deus Ex.

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Patryn said:

What do think the odds are that we ever see single-player DLC for Andromeda at this point?

I'm guessing low.

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Ovek said:

Depending on sales we might not even get MA:A 2 let alone some DLC.

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Patryn said:

What do think the odds are that we ever see single-player DLC for Andromeda at this point?

I'm guessing low.

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Tony Redgrave said:

We even got DA2 DLC evn thought some was cut (the Exalted March).

Besides, it might not be looking so hot but I think we should wait for sales first.

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Patryn said:

Oh, I already figured that the Andromeda sub-brand for Mass Effect was dead. It's far too tainted at this point and brings far too much baggage.

I figure any Mass Effect 5 (if it happens) would be another reboot of some fashion, likely set back in the Milky Way.

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Bisnic said:

I haven't finished Andromeda yet, but if it ends up with "Shit, this galaxy was a bad idea, let's go back", i'll laugh.

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Patryn said:

Oh, I have no doubt it'll get DLC. I'm just guessing it'll all be MP DLC.

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Patryn said:

Let me clarify that I haven't finished the game, so I have no idea if it ends like that. I'm just guessing that they'll want to run away from the Andromeda name given the reputation it has acquired, and companies in crisis tend to like back to basics, which means Milky Way in this instance.

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Dany said:

Square makes Deus ex? and what do you mean?

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Patryn said:

What do think the odds are that we ever see single-player DLC for Andromeda at this point?

I'm guessing low.

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Dany said:

I want tali, wrex, garrus and liara back.

ME:a spoiler

Spoiler

THose liara audio logs were most certainly not the same voice actress of liara in the original trilogy

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Bisnic said:

This whole Andromeda idea was always just a trick for them to stay away from the ME3 ending, it's no surprise to anyone. Considering that a lot of the Milky Way was still unexplored, and how much people love the Citadel, the races, the lore being the galaxy itself, it never made sense to get away from all that.

They could either make a reboot without Shepard & the Reapers, or just create games happening during the ME1(or prior to that) or ME2(hell, they got 2 years with no Shepard to do whatever they want) timeline when the Reapers were just something that nobody but Shepard were worrying about.

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EatChildren said:

OI'm more concerned about franchise sales. I'm really enjoying my time with Andromeda so far. Lots I can dissect and nitpick, but I do that with everything. I want to see Montreal have the opportunity to do a follow up now a lot of the tech and premise is in place.

If the game tanks, that's it in my opinion. Catch ya later Mass Effect.

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Maledict said:

Creating a mass Effect game before the ending of ME3 is a bad idea. The ending of ME3 had galactic wide changes, so whatever you do is ultimately going to be eclipsed by that. It's why I was so opposed to the idea of a first contact game - it's a story already told, with an end we know about.

Personally, I think they should have just bitten the bullet and chosen a canon ending (most probably control as that keeps the Geth around. Alternative is you choose destroy, but have geth space remain 'off limits' so that their fate is unknown). That would have been better than this fake 'new galaxy' crap which coincidentally just looks like the old one (up too and including Krogan fucking mercenaries everywhere which makes absolutely zero sense in Andromeda).

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Maledict said:

Creating a mass Effect game before the ending of ME3 is a bad idea. The ending of ME3 had galactic wide changes, so whatever you do is ultimately going to be eclipsed by that. It's why I was so opposed to the idea of a first contact game - it's a story already told, with an end we know about.

Personally, I think they should have just bitten the bullet and chosen a canon ending (most probably control as that keeps the Geth around. Alternative is you choose destroy, but have geth space remain 'off limits' so that their fate is unknown). That would have been better than this fake 'new galaxy' crap which coincidentally just looks like the old one (up too and including Krogan fucking mercenaries everywhere which makes absolutely zero sense in Andromeda).

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Madness said:

Nah I like that they ignored it all. Maybe once we are at Mass Effect Andromeda 2, they can make one of the endings of ME3 canon. By then, no one would really care as it doesn't affect ME:A much.

I honestly would prefer Destroy to be canon, but one that somehoe kept EDI and the Geth safe. Having Synthesis be the canon option would be poor. What a shitty end to the trilogy. Still get upset thinking about it. One of my issues with Andromeda is that I care about none of it really. Unlike say the Milky Way which has Earth. It was a joy seeing things like Ilium and Omega and Thessia and Surr'Kesh for the first time because they have history to the story and races of the game. Oh well, hopefully they are even allowed to continue. Like EatChildren said above, bad sales and the negatige buzz and EA may just shelve the series while it is spending all its focus on Star Wars.

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dr_rus said:

Or they could've just chosen all three disregarding that awful choice in the end of ME3 (nobody would cry on that I think) and just create an ending where everything went somewhat differently - like Reapers are gone, Geth are still around, relays are partially functioning, Shepard is MIA, etc. It really isn't that hard if you think about it, especially if you let some time pass between the events of ME3 and whatever is the next adventure for Milky Way.

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FrontalMonk said:

The funny thing I think is how shit like this was handled in the Elder Scrolls games. They call them Dragon Breaks, and essentially say in-universe "some crazy shit happened nobody can explain it, but this is how the world is now" which is how you can explain how Daggerfall had like eight different endings that all radically reshaped that part of the world, and in the canon all of them and none of them happened, and now you have a canon view of how "shit went crazy but it's cool now" called The Warp In The West.

Like, I could almost see Bioware trying for something like this to say "look, we can't explain what happened, but reapers are gone, shepard is gone, and shit went sideways but we're cool now".

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Maledict said:

That's exactly what I was thinking of as well. Set it 10+ years after the end of ME3, have the reapers gone and the reconstruction efforts underway, have Shepherd vanish and the Geth retreating back behind the Perseus veil. That would be better than this farcical 'go to a new galaxy, everything's the same!' concept they have now where they utterly squander the presmise of the game to recreate poorer versions of the original trilogy.

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Garlador said:

They yanked one of the lead writers off Mass Effect mid-way through the trilogy and put him on The Old Republic as well.

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diaspora said:

EA is more likely to restructure BioWare's organisational model than kill the IP or even go back to the milky way. It's obvious that the location isn't the problem.

In any case this feels like the most star trek of any of the Mass Effect games.

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lucebuce12 said:

You guys need to seriously go to the crew quarters and read the log/message board.

It gets really funny ^_^

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dr_rus said:

EA have Star Wars license right now which is far more likely to produce sales for even mediocre games than new Mass Effect entries. So it is entirely possible that they'll shelve the franchise at least until their agreement with Disney will run out and won't be renewed (i.e. possibly forever).

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diaspora said:

EA could have killed DA after 2 but didn't. They know that they're better off keeping their internal IPs alive is as important as the Star Wars IP even if one of four entries got a lukewarm reception.

Because that's ultimately what it comes down to- shelve an internal IP because the leadership of BioWare Montréal appears to have goofed or simply fix the internal problem.

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dr_rus said:

They could have if they'd had, say, Lord of the Rings license. Since they don't Dragon Age is their main fantasy IP so it's rather unlikely that they'll ever kill it. As for Mass Effect...

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diaspora said:

EA is more likely to restructure BioWare's organisational model than kill the IP or even go back to the milky way. It's obvious that the location isn't the problem.

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