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GustyGardens · Jun 1, 2015

Did we all forget that the NX is not a mobile platform? Android based is not the same as Android Powered. As it stands Nintendo are fantastic when it comes to making games, but their OS offerings have been fragmented and not very well done. If they do plan on continued support for two hardware platforms they need to marry them with a familiar OS.

Android based OS also would mean that a lot of the features we've been clamoring for would be easier to implement.

Mobile and NX are not the and thing, which is why Iwata brought it up during that meeting.

duckroll · Jun 1, 2015

Faustek said:
Hi duckroll, can I ask you for the tiny favor of adding to the OP that this doesn't mean Ouya/Mobile Phone? People will just come bye and post strange things otherwise ^^

Okay.

ArcaneFreeze · Jun 1, 2015

Kotaku is gonna take this thread and run with it. "Nintendo NX will be Android Mobile Phone" I can see it now.

ArtHands · Jun 1, 2015

Kriken said:
I think it's more the initial shock of reading "Android OS" and thinking of smartphonesand Ouya, reading TDM posts gives a bit more clarity

That's jumping to conclusion there. Android is more than just smartphones ouya and tablets. Its just a OS, and can be found in various other applications like smartwatches, PC, smart cars , TVs etc nowadays.

Somnid · Jun 1, 2015

It's surprising but customizing AOSP isn't a bad strategy because they'll greatly reduce effort of getting basic functionality working and developers are already pretty familiar with it. Note that it doesn't have to function much like Android people are used to at all. It's not unlike them leveraging webkit for their browser, if there's an open source project that does most of what you want there's little reason to spend the effort to rebuild unless you have great and specific need and Nintendo certainly doesn't.

BocoDragon · Jun 1, 2015

GamerSoul said:
Really? Wow. I wrote a research paper on Windows CE for a class and i never came across this. But then again i was surprised to learn just how many embedded systems ran CE.

It was right on the front of the machine.

Faustek · Jun 1, 2015

Ninja Scooter said:
How do you know that it doesn't mean that? We don't know anything other than what Nikki is reporting. No need for preemptive damage control. As of now this is all speculation. Let's speculate. It's fun.

hmm, true enough.
I just wanted to mitigate my own headache as I'm perusing the thread. I'm selfish that way yo.

BigJonsson said:
I'll wait for the Cyanogen edition

Hah, that made me smirk

Man I haven't touched Cyanogen in ages. Xposed and stock android did it for me

duckroll said:
Okay.

Thanks

Compsiox · Jun 1, 2015

ArcaneFreeze said:
Kotaku is gonna take this thread and run with it. "Nintendo NX will be Android Mobile Phone" I can see it now.

Kotaku gon kotaku

Lexad · Jun 1, 2015

Wow, was expecting Console, but android would seem to suggest mobile.

Regulus Tera · Jun 1, 2015

This is only gonna make it more likely for third parties to support the platform. Kudos.

Zalman · Jun 1, 2015

I think there's more to the story since there are some issues here right off the bat (mainly piracy), but it's going to be interesting to see how it turns out. This isn't necessarily a bad thing depending on how they handle it.

Keep in mind Iwata already said it's a dedicated game platform.

GoonerTRON · Jun 1, 2015

I would probably buy a Nintendo phone if it's aimed at mass market pricing. Think of all the included ringtones and message alerts.

Trago · Jun 1, 2015

Lexad said:
Wow, was expecting Console, but android would seem to suggest mobile.

Just because it's Android doesn't mean it can't be both.

CO_Andy · Jun 1, 2015

Well, that's one way to get 3rd-parties *cough*

Compsiox · Jun 1, 2015

Zalman said:
I think there's more to the story since there are some issues here right off the bat (mainly piracy), but it's going to be interesting to see how it turns out. This isn't necessarily a bad thing depending on how they handle it.

How is piracy on Kindle android devices?

Hattori · Jun 1, 2015

Seems like it would be a double edge sword. I hope it pays off for them

Colonel Mustard · Jun 1, 2015

ITT I learned that apparently no one understands what 'Android-based console' means. Apparent Android isn't an operating system, its just the App Store. Nintendo is only publishing through the app store now.

Vampirolol · Jun 1, 2015

Waiting for people sure about a hybrid console explaining their magical world where specs don't matter.

ULTROS! · Jun 1, 2015

Crayolan said:
WELL SHIT

Heroman said:
It not going to be android.

NMFried said:
I don't think so. I think Nintendo will have the groundwork and the partnership to make a viable platform without Android.

Hopefully the Nintendo Network name transfers.

EDIT: I could also see Apple making a play at Nintendo, especially to get their IPs promoted on the App Store. It's going to be huge.

Chindogg said:
Stop with this.

Iwata has consistently stated that the next OS is based on Wii U's architecture.

Toki767 said:
Doubtful. It'll probably be more of an evolution of the Wii U/3DS OS. Probably with better Miiverse integration.

Occam said:
Nonsense.

JordanKZ said:
I'm a pretty big Android advocate... there is no way in hell Nintendo would touch Android.

HeartlessNobody213 said:
Extremely doubtful.

diablos991 said:
Clickbait title.
This belongs on Buzzfeed.

I believe Nintendo will have their own OS with app services on Android and IOS.

It would be a security nightmare to have Android or IOS on a home console. They would have to constantly update to protect against exploits. This would put the OS control away from Nintendo and into the hands of other companies. I don't think Nintendo wants to go that route.

shacklesmcgee said:
Why is this presented as fact? What's with the troll thread titles today, jeez

Chinpoko_Master said:
I highly doubt this. Android is way too open as a platform for Nintendo.

Huahuahuahuahuahuahua

mazpratim · Jun 1, 2015

I think this is a good idea

Neofire · Jun 1, 2015

If this is true I see widespread piracy in Nintendo next consoles future.

GhostTrick · Jun 1, 2015

I have mixed feelings about this announcement.
On one hand, it means it will finally have a decent account but also that Nintendo is taking forward thinking decisions.

On the other hand... I can see leading this easy piracy and a terrible direction in term of philosophy for their machine.

Pooya · Jun 1, 2015

Watch it be Gingerbread cause nintendo :b

BocoDragon · Jun 1, 2015

I can't wait to root my console.

Trevelyan9999 · Jun 1, 2015

Uncle BAZINGA said:
I wonder if it's true if Android is capable of displaying proper graphics? I mean, I don't play mobile games, but those I see from time to time can't even compare to Wii U graphics.

I can imagine that they use android for the next handheld while using a dedicated os for the home console, but both with x86 hardware since their already were reports about Nintendo using AMD CPUs next time, no?

Yes, the "reports" were strong rumors and speculation, but makes perfect sense for Nintendo:

http://powerleveled.com/amd-talks-new-custom-gaming-processors/

Ingueferroque · Jun 1, 2015

Not sure if I like the sound of that.

Somnid · Jun 1, 2015

Compsiox said:
How is piracy on Kindle android devices?

Same as anything, though Nintendo will likely not offer a developer mode to sideload things.

Maximo · Jun 1, 2015

catmario said:
Aaaaand It'll be hacked within 5 hours.

Castef · Jun 1, 2015

Makes sense. I'd have bet on Android for it.

Mihael Mello Keehl · Jun 1, 2015

Crayolan said:
WELL SHIT

Lol.. gonna be making crow everything for gaf potluck.
Crow stew, crow sandwich, crow fillet, fried crow, stir crow, crow cookies, crow cake, crow drank!

Illucio · Jun 1, 2015

Wouldn't this create a ton of potential for piracy? And emulations on Android devices?

NX is going to be a OS. Not a phone, but a gaming device.

So basically a tablet/ipod touch but it's a independent gaming system?

This sounds more and more like a Handheld/Console hybrid.... Very interesting to say the least, but I don't think it will be successful.

Nanashrew · Jun 1, 2015

Zalman said:
I think there's more to the story since there are some issues here right off the bat (mainly piracy), but it's going to be interesting to see how it turns out. This isn't necessarily a bad thing depending on how they handle it.

Keep in mind Iwata already said it's a dedicated game platform.

Nintendo will likely do everything they can to prevent that and have constant stability updates.

Compsiox · Jun 1, 2015

Somnid said:
Same as anything, though Nintendo will likely not offer a developer mode to sideload things.

Ah okay then. They'll find a way!

Father_Brain · Jun 1, 2015

Cheerilee said:
Hideaki Anno: "Anime will be dead in 5 years"

That doesn't say it's a fact. It doesn't have to say "rumor" in the headline. It means "Hideaki Anno said a thing." You can judge for yourself how much weight you want to put into his words.

I really expected Nintendo's response to go in the opposite direction and be "We need to ensure that we never have to depend on anybody ever again." I expected them to make a "Nintendo platform" like we've only joked about, with increased first party content capable of sustaining the platform (or trying to), and actual indifference to any third party that isn't working directly with Nintendo.

The bolded part and lowering barriers to third-party development aren't mutually exclusive.

Trago · Jun 1, 2015

GhostTrick said:
I have mixed feelings about this announcement.
On one hand, it means it will finally have a decent account but also that Nintendo is taking forward thinking decisions.

On the other hand... I can see leading this easy piracy and a terrible direction in term of philosophy for their machine.

Care to elaborate?

Nosgotham · Jun 1, 2015

Holy shit....at these crazy jumping to conclusion posts.

Faustek · Jun 1, 2015

Lexad said:
Wow, was expecting Console, but android would seem to suggest mobile.

There is always a possibility but I'll tell you that Android itself can be run on any hardware.
But if you missed it Android M is being fitted to able to run well in an desktop environment as well and Ubuntu has that seamless switching if you set it up for when you dock your phone to a desktop Screen.

Good times good times indeed.

Sandfox · Jun 1, 2015

Compsiox said:
How so? They haven't cared about 3rd party support since Pre N64. I don't recall any major changes in their ways.

They've been approaching software in a lot of different ways lately in addition to doing more to take advantage of their IPs.

Nirolak · Jun 1, 2015

Okay so people don't seem to understand what Android is.

Android is:
-An operating system
-An operating system you can customize how you like
-An operating system with the ability to call down to the hardware at a low level

Android is not:
-A hardware architecture
-A mandate to be a phone
-A mandate to not be a walled garden

HUELEN10 · Jun 1, 2015

Nirolak said:
Okay so people don't seem to understand what Android is.

Android is:
-An operating system
-An operating system you can customize how you like
-An operating system with the ability to call down to the hardware at a low level

Android is not:
-A hardware architecture
-A mandate to be a phone
-A mandate to not be a walled garden

Thank you, you've worded it pretty spot-on. You could also add "Androird is not mandatory google services or compatibility for any apps".

Nirolak · Jun 1, 2015

Uncle BAZINGA said:
I wonder if it's true if Android is capable of displaying proper graphics? I mean, I don't play mobile games, but those I see from time to time can't even compare to Wii U graphics.

I can imagine that they use android for the next handheld while using a dedicated os for the home console, but both with x86 hardware since their already were reports about Nintendo using AMD CPUs next time, no?

Android is an operating system, not a piece of hardware.

billeh · Jun 1, 2015

From an OS perspective, this is fantastic. Nintendo needs to stick do what they do best, GAMES. If using Android allows them to better focus on their core competencies, then I'm all in.

My main concern would be that most Android applications are ARM-based, and I'm not sure how well graphically it can compete with the x86 world on the XBO/PS4. Judging from what I've seen the Nvidia Shield put out, I think it might need a little more time in the over. Is there a mainstream use of Android using the x86 architecture anyone can direct me to?

Mushroomer25 · Jun 1, 2015

Very interesting. Though honestly, Android is a backbone of many different platforms - it's not just a mobile OS anymore. All this would do in a practical sense is lower the entry barrier for developers, since it'd be based on familiar architecture. Porting would be simple.

Kriken · Jun 1, 2015

ArtHands said:
That's jumping to conclusion there. Android is more than just smartphones ouya and tablets. Its just a OS, and can be found in various other applications like smartwatches, PC, smart cars , TVs etc nowadays.

Well, judging by the reactions and repeated reminders of this, I'd say I wasn't the only one

OmegaDL50 · Jun 1, 2015

Nirolak said:
Okay so people don't seem to understand what Android is.

Android is:
-An operating system
-An operating system you can customize how you like
-An operating system with the ability to call down to the hardware at a low level

Android is not:
-A hardware architecture
-A mandate to be a phone
-A mandate to not be a walled garden

Thank you.

I was just about to make a similar comment about the distinction between software and hardware.

GamerSoul · Jun 1, 2015

BocoDragon said:
It was right on the front of the machine.

I was honestly too young and ignorant to even care at that point in my life, when i did play on a dreamcast. As long as it played games, i was happy.

EmCeeGramr · Jun 1, 2015

piracy won't be that big of a deal once all the games are F2P anyway

Trago · Jun 1, 2015

Nirolak said:
Okay so people don't seem to understand what Android is.

Android is:
-An operating system
-An operating system you can customize how you like
-An operating system with the ability to call down to the hardware at a low level

Android is not:
-A hardware architecture
-A mandate to be a phone
-A mandate to not be a walled garden

elostyle · Jun 1, 2015

I still think they should buy Unity

They are going to have to fix that input lag though.

Compsiox · Jun 1, 2015

Sandfox said:
They've been approaching software in a lot of different ways lately in addition to doing more to take advantage of their IPs.

Oh okay I see. I guess you're right but I feel that this change will be more significant.

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