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Project CARS (crowdsourcing) racing sim by Slightly Mad Studios (fully funded 3.75M)
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mclaren777
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Can somebody please recommend some good FFB settings for the G27?
I wasn't pleased with the FFB when I recently tried pCARS and I'm wondering if there are any tweaks that can make it significantly better.
I wasn't pleased with the FFB when I recently tried pCARS and I'm wondering if there are any tweaks that can make it significantly better.
I had a quick go in the new Stock Car against some AI at Connecticut Hill Short and uploaded it to youtube.
Project CARS - 1990 Caper Stock Car at Connecticut Hill Short - 5 laps vs AI (build 197)
and two more shots from that race, cannot wait for that skinning contest to be finished so the other cars also have some nice paint jobs.
@McLaren no, just pick default (dev) logitech settings, map buttons, calibrate wheel/pedals and you could play with newest setting in menu that's added for this build (can't remember name, but you will see).
Project CARS - 1990 Caper Stock Car at Connecticut Hill Short - 5 laps vs AI (build 197)
and two more shots from that race, cannot wait for that skinning contest to be finished so the other cars also have some nice paint jobs.
@McLaren no, just pick default (dev) logitech settings, map buttons, calibrate wheel/pedals and you could play with newest setting in menu that's added for this build (can't remember name, but you will see).
No, could be (really) soon or when the deal does not goes trough a long time. You could just take the save way and pick up 10 Jr account and you can always pay the difference and upgrade if you feel the need to and you are in before closing, whenever that happens and max lost, 10 if you do not like it.Looks awesome
Any word on when they plan on closing membership for the beta? I wanna get in before but as close to that date as possible
All right so I tried the new build. The game is still pretty much unplayable with a Fanatec Wheel (I have a PWTS).
I mean...the game is technically playable but the FFB is completly borked. With the default setting there's a huge spring effect on the steering which is ridiculous. If you disable the spring via the debug menu (F1) then the spring is gone but the whole steering feel like its in molasses.
But overall, with or without spring the common factor is that there's no FFB at all! I mean there's no vibration and you have zero feel from the car.
I've been playing a lot of rFactor 2 and iRacing lately and you seriously can't put pCars anywhere near those games as far as FFB goes. Too bad because the content in pCars is amazing but right now the control issues just take all the fun away from the game.
I mean...the game is technically playable but the FFB is completly borked. With the default setting there's a huge spring effect on the steering which is ridiculous. If you disable the spring via the debug menu (F1) then the spring is gone but the whole steering feel like its in molasses.
But overall, with or without spring the common factor is that there's no FFB at all! I mean there's no vibration and you have zero feel from the car.
I've been playing a lot of rFactor 2 and iRacing lately and you seriously can't put pCars anywhere near those games as far as FFB goes. Too bad because the content in pCars is amazing but right now the control issues just take all the fun away from the game.
Man, you know you're up shit creek when the "world record" holder for that particular car and track is a reg in this thread 
Now, does anyone have any advice for setting up the Gumpert for taking tight, banked corners? Every time I either oversteer or understeer into them Unless I have to stretch out my FOV, but I really don't want to because it just feels weird otherwise.
Now, does anyone have any advice for setting up the Gumpert for taking tight, banked corners? Every time I either oversteer or understeer into them
Unless I have to stretch out my FOV, but I really don't want to because it just feels weird otherwise.Not wanting to shit on your parade or anything, but do you need to mark YT vids from pCARS as private or something? I'm not 100% sure (which is why I'm asking) but you may wish to be careful.I had a quick go in the new Stock Car against some AI at Connecticut Hill Short and uploaded it to youtube.
Project CARS - 1990 Caper Stock Car at Connecticut Hill Short - 5 laps vs AI (build 197)
and two more shots from that race, cannot wait for that skinning contest to be finished so the other cars also have some nice paint jobs.
Also, there's a replay mode?
I've put in a time for the challenge this week 2:01.681
The Gumpert is an absolute handful across the top of the mountain and that's where I'm losing all my time. If I could just get the car stable I could probably dip under 2 minutes, hey, even if I got The Cutting right I'd probably shave half a second to a second off my time as it stands.
Edit: updated time
The Gumpert is an absolute handful across the top of the mountain and that's where I'm losing all my time. If I could just get the car stable I could probably dip under 2 minutes, hey, even if I got The Cutting right I'd probably shave half a second to a second off my time as it stands.
Edit: updated time
Man, you know you're up shit creek when the "world record" holder for that particular car and track is a reg in this thread
Now, does anyone have any advice for setting up the Gumpert for taking tight, banked corners? Every time I either oversteer or understeer into them
Pft, the original world record was quite terrible.
No need to upload your "normal" videos as private, just add the curent state (build nr) to the description. It's only when you are bug reporting, so people in 12/14 months time do not mistake those bug videos as the "final" game.
Wow. That's an amazing video. Puts professional sites to shame. Well done, sir.
This is why I haven't given any money yet. People have posted their FFB plans (and they sound incredible), but until they're actually implemented, I'll wait and see. Hope it happens before they close the beta.
I was playing yesterday for about 3 hours. Trying every car and every track and yeah the FFB, especially during oversteer is bad. I feel like my steering input are heavily delayed and then there is the seesaw effect where it is almost impossible to know how much to correct. I would say the best cars are the Caterham and the Leonus F77.
I think they wiped the leaderboards, not sure if it's just on some tracks or all of them.
baH, I'm not sAyiNg that you shoulDn't buY it. i think it's still well worth it. i work in qa for a big videogame publisher so i'm used to see early versions with a bunch of stuff that doesn't work. that's just normal. i know they'll fix it before the game is released. you shoudn't pass on the opportunity to play the game every week until it comes out simply because of some nasty bug in a version that came out a year before release. if you want to wait until they fix that (or something else) before buying it you might miss the window since it looks like it's closing fast.
That's what I understand. And maybe even some specific wheels that have problems. Not sure but I think the newer Fanatec wheels are fine (CSW,CSR) but the older Porsche wheels (PWTS,GT2,GT3) might have issues right now. Not sure since I can only try the PWTS but anyway. Yeah that's why I've been playing mostly in G25 mode (it's not perfect when used on a Fanatec wheel but it's still better).
It's mostly because I didn't like the FFB in the Shift series and it doesn't seem to be much better than that at the moment.
But there have been some posts where they're talking about taking the direct feedback route rf2 and iracing use and going even further. If they actually do implement that, coupled with those cars and graphics, then we're talking about a killer product.
But it's just my Shift prejudice holding me back. And from many, it sounds like that's about its current state.
pCARS is already nothing like Shift 2, the feel is far from it.
Have you tried the latest build?
The current FFB is completely different from the Shift, as it uses the steering column torque(Mz), but it's the very first implementation of it:
And here's what AJ has said about the current physics and what might change in the future:
Hi guys, I'm such a noob about PC gaming so this is probably a dumb question: I have an "Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz", and I'm not sure if it is enough to run this game; judging by the minimun pc requirements in the OP I'd say no, but I don't understand much about all of this...
Also, how long until the beta expires?
Also, how long until the beta expires?
With the CPU alone, we can't tell.
The game is not in beta, it's pre-alpha. There's not an expiring day. There's a supposed deal that¡s going to be signed and when it is signed they will close access to new members. They said in three weeks, probably. It was three weeks ago.
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mclaren777
Member
Handling model: pCARS > Shift
FFB: pCARS = Shift (eg, neither are great)
There is a significant difference between the way cars handle and the feeling you get in the steering wheel. The car handling in pCARS is much more realistic than in Shift, but SMS still needs to work on the FFB in pCARS because it was pretty bad when I last played it (Build 189).
Foliorum Viridum
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You'll be Dilly's bitch in this game too. We both know it.
Metalmurphy
Member
This is absolutely NOT true.
SHIFT FFB felt like all cars were driving through a big ocean of jelly.
Yeah, I can't agree with Mclaren.
pCars' FFB feels so much sharper, lighter and stronger than either Shift's. I do miss some of the canned effects like more pronounced kerbs and G-Forces, but that customizable FFB should fix that.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
It may not be as bad as SHIFT, but pCARS definitely has the worst FFB of all the racing sims I play.
I realize this is prerelease and all but how easy would it be for a total sim racer newbie to get into this? I have never put enough time into a sim to get good but I never had a good one for my PC before. I like cars and the idea of racing but I know basically nothing about all of the tweaking and terminology. Also I'd be using a pad.
Edit: My PC is totally up for it though, i7 960 with 12GB RAM and 6970.
Edit: My PC is totally up for it though, i7 960 with 12GB RAM and 6970.
mclaren777
Member
I personally feel that both games have equally bad FFB they're just bad in different ways.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
You'll struggle a lot at first but it's not impossible to get good at, it will just take practice. If you put in the time you'll get a satisfying reward at the end.
I know fuck all about cars so don't worry about that.
I know fuck all about cars so don't worry about that.
I don't mean to be rude, and I don't know if you're playing a lot at a friend's house or what, but you left the project months ago, did you not? I think several people here are going to have a lot more experience with the recent FFB changes. =/ I don't think it's not really cool to offer assessments of the current FFB state.
I'm still just a bit confused since several weeks ago I thought there was a build that some considered nearly perfect with FFB. I feel like different people have different ideas of what it should feel like, however.
mclaren777
Member
Yeah, pCARS is arguably the easiest racing sim to play. You'd be fine with just a controller.
mclaren777
Member
I did leave the project back in January but my recent experience with Build 189 left me feeling quite cool to the project. It's been obvious that SMS has made big strides in the content and graphics departments, but the physics and FFB still seem to be lagging behind (I felt the same way back in Oct-Jan).
I asked people on GAF for tweaks/changes that could make the FFB better so I can have a better experience next time, but I didn't seem to get much help. I really want pCARS to have excellent physics and FFB, but I'm struggling to see any hope that things will improve due to the glacial pace of development in those two areas.
And while my time with pCARS was rather short (probably 60-90 minutes) I have more experience with other sims' physics/FFB than most people on GAF so I think I have every right to comment on its relative place in the pecking order.
mclaren777
Member
To see the culmination of if, read through the posts on pages 53 and 54 here: http://forum.wmdportal.com/showthread.php?2228-rFactor-2-Open-Beta/page53
Metalmurphy
Member
I don't think that was it. Pretty sure you don't think it either.
As long as you're not wrong when doing so, such as just a few moments ago.