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professor_t · Jun 18, 2012

Okay, I'll bite. If those are the actual Xbox specs, why would a bunch of developers say it's the better development platform? It seems like a significantly more advanced gpu and faster RAM would make the PS3 a clear winner in this category. I am a novice in this area, in case you couldn't tell . . .

shinobi602 · Jun 18, 2012

Boogybro said:
Wii U must have trained on Earth. They can suppress their power levels there.

You win this thread.

Boss Man · Jun 18, 2012

So...

Wii U = 4 Gamecubes duct taped together
Orbis = $599
Durango = Windows 8 with Kinect™

professor_t said:
Okay, I'll bite. If those are the actual Xbox specs, why would a bunch of developers say it's the better development platform? It seems like a significantly more advanced gpu and faster RAM would make the PS3 a clear winner in this category. I am a novice in this area, in case you couldn't tell . . .

Are you talking about that IGN thing? If so, it could mean anything and it could mean nothing. Something like that could come down to development tools or company policies or whatever. "Best development platform" definitely doesn't mean most powerful console.

Proelite · Jun 18, 2012

StateofMind said:
So...

Wii U = 4 Gamecubes duct taped together.
Orbis = $599
Durango = Windows 8 with Kinect

Orbis = $199

2+2=5 · Jun 18, 2012

How many teraflops does ue4 need?

Donny Hayabusa · Jun 18, 2012

Combichristoffersen said:
Can't say I've ever heard any English town name used as a codename for the PS4.

Sho_Nuff82 said:
He's thinking of Liverpool.

I knew it was something with Liv.... What was that all about?

-Pyromaniac- · Jun 18, 2012

Anyway 2gb GDDR5 and a GPU that strong will make me a happy camper PS4 wise.

subversus · Jun 18, 2012

if true Orbis will be the last Sony console

Corleth the Fey · Jun 18, 2012

Combichristoffersen said:
Can't say I've ever heard any English town name used as a codename for the PS4.

Me neither, but the PS4 shall be ever known as the 'Milton Keynes' to me from this day onward.

Liverpool's a city.

ElFly · Jun 18, 2012

IMHO Microsoft will prioritize having enough RAM on the console so you can play a movie while you have a game paused, without having to shut down the game I mean.

Umm, I am assuming you can't do this on the current 360, since I've only played one like a couple of times.

Rösti · Jun 18, 2012

2+2=5 said:
How many teraflops does ue4 need?

What is the target platform for UE4? What kind of hardware are gamers going to need to run UE4 based games?

Unreal Engine 4s next-generation renderer targets DirectX 11 GPUs and really starts to become interesting on hardware with 1+ TFLOPS of graphics performance, where it delivers some truly unprecedented capabilities. However, UE4 also includes a mainstream renderer targeting mass-market devices with a feature set that is appropriate there.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...-next-gen-gtx-680-powered-real-time-graphics/

Graphics Horse · Jun 18, 2012

ElFly said:
IMHO Microsoft will prioritize having enough RAM on the console so you can play a movie while you have a game paused, without having to shut down the game I mean.

Umm, I am assuming you can't do this on the current 360, since I've only played one like a couple of times.

I don't think you can but it doesn't sound hugely ram intensive.
I'm suspecting some of Orbis's rumoured 16 GB flash will be available to the current game, which would be potentially a lot niftier than using an HDD for virtual memory.

Zilch · Jun 18, 2012

Is 'tflops' the new 'bits'?

KageMaru · Jun 18, 2012

Proelite said:
Bingo, Kinect, OS apps needs ram.

Kinect would not benefit from a lot of RAM and neither do apps unless they are expected to run while you run games.

2+2=5 · Jun 18, 2012

Rösti;38999054 said:
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...-next-gen-gtx-680-powered-real-time-graphics/

Thanks dude!

In theory ps4 can handle ue4 easily, x720 is at limit.

Combichristoffersen · Jun 18, 2012

Donny Hayabusa said:
I knew it was something with Liv.... What was that all about?

Liverpool is the codename for the AMD APU rumoured to be in the PS4.

It is also an English city, and a football club from said city.

Grampa Simpson · Jun 18, 2012

professor_t said:
Okay, I'll bite. If those are the actual Xbox specs, why would a bunch of developers say it's the better development platform? It seems like a significantly more advanced gpu and faster RAM would make the PS3 a clear winner in this category. I am a novice in this area, in case you couldn't tell . . .

DRINK IT!

ElFly · Jun 18, 2012

Graphics Horse said:
You can't but it doesn't sound hugely ram intensive.

Dunno how intensive it but it'd require reserving some RAM that the games cannot access (even more than they reserve on the 360/PS3 which is minuscule). That, or doing some swapping on the fly, which isn't out of the question either, just maybe cumbersome.

Elginer · Jun 18, 2012

KageMaru said:
Kinect would not benefit from a lot of RAM and neither do apps unless they are expected to run while you run games.

which they prob will. news ticker, streaming radio etc.

jaypah · Jun 18, 2012

2MF said:
Easy way to hit the higher ceiling - render at 30 fps on the 720 and 60 fps on the PS4

Assuming the CPU does not bottleneck the framerate of course...

Well either way I guess it shouldn't be that big of a deal as I always buy every console as soon as possible (and these days that means day one, double income/no kids FTW!) but I'd still rather devs didn't have yo worry about it.

2MF · Jun 18, 2012

Zilch said:
Is 'tflops' the new 'bits'?

In this case it's actually better than "bits", since all these consoles are supposed to have very similar architectures (even down to the supplier, AMD). So as far as GPU power goes, the TFLOPS should be a pretty good representation of how powerful the hardware is.

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