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What were the levels of Master Sword in Skyward Sword?
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Zelda game set in Link to the Past world coming to the 3DS, holiday 2013
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What were the levels of Master Sword in Skyward Sword?
ClovingWestbrook
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I wonder if we will get a limited edition LttP 2 3DS XL
Ace Harding
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How about actually making a new game that was like the older ones? Not a re-imagined version of an older one?
I mean sure maybe the "story" is different, maybe there are some new puzzles, but we're seeing the same map. Zelda is all about the map. If that's the same and the dungeons are similar then its not really a new game.
Re-imaginings and remakes are fine. No problem with that. But I really would love to see a new 2D Zelda (and Metroid).
Edit: Also this will probably be the perfect introduction for you.
Napalm_Frank
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Thats not exactly what I meant
but pink hair would have been hilarious. Maybe as unlockable costume?
MisterHero
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Speculation but does this mean LttP Link is in contention for a Smash Bros. appearance?
I have no idea where to even begin. I really don't want Nintendo to settle for fishing sales through nostalgia, but that is really all I can see coming from this. I don't doubt this game will be well made (yet), but I really would have preferred something new. I guess we'll have to wait till the Wii U's rendition is announced. My breathe is held though...
peanutbutterlatte
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They'll just give him a "Masterlike Sword" e.g. Seashell Sword, Locomo Blade
It would be the Golden Realm. Could be an interesting take on it again.
Aquamarine
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nintendo needs to get their 3d artstyle right.
they all look blend
Comparative size + Direct feed comparison:
...is equivalent to...
What do you propose Nintendo do if they wanted to adapt the 2D art to full 3D?
Black outlines would muddle with the perspective, keeping the original color scheme would be too dreary in 3D, and too much detail in the textures would be too busy when looking at it through a small screen.
ThatObviousUser
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Right, it'll be the Sacred Realm. Who knows how different it actually was from the Dark World, though.
I suppose the Thieves' Town will be revitalized, at least.
KojiKnight
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if they used the 2D sprites from ALTTP or from 4-swords GCN everyone could complain that they are lazy for just recycling sprites.
But that's okay, we got people complaining they are lazy for making a direct sequel to ALTTP either way... People don't know what they want. This will likely go down as one of the better Zelda games, but expect in the mean time a lot of people complaining up till release, then a bunch of reviews that give it near perfect scores calling it the best zelda ever, THEN after a year or so it'll fall where ALL zelda games fall... "Not as good as my favorite, (insert LttP, OoT, MM, or WW) but it's still really good."
But that's okay, we got people complaining they are lazy for making a direct sequel to ALTTP either way... People don't know what they want. This will likely go down as one of the better Zelda games, but expect in the mean time a lot of people complaining up till release, then a bunch of reviews that give it near perfect scores calling it the best zelda ever, THEN after a year or so it'll fall where ALL zelda games fall... "Not as good as my favorite, (insert LttP, OoT, MM, or WW) but it's still really good."
TheNatural
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It's easier to make 3D models than hand drawn cel shaded or 2D sprites.
In 2013 it's extremely rare to see a faithful 8 or 16 bit restoration anymore, in a sequel or remake. Rayman Origins was a rare example of a great looking 2D game, and they went ahead and dropped it for Legends.
Even Duck Tales has great looking hand drawn cartoon characters, but the background and items were blocky run of the mill 3D assets.
It's better to just give up on the notion that you're going to get a super faithful awesome looking restoration of a classic series. It's just not happening anymore. It's a lot of time, effort, and money invested in animation and drawing that doesn't pay off at the retail end. Too many consumers are just ignorant of the efforts, as the New Super Mario Bros series show, no one really cares that much if the game is in weird fugly 2.5D.
EmCeeGramr
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it stopped at "true" master sword (which is the normal form)
Duane Cunningham
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I do, BRING IT BABY!
Lightning Lord
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Considering we got one for OoT3D, I would be surprised if we didn't for an all new Zelda. Perhaps if they announce it I'll get it--I've been meaning to get an XL for a while now.
peanutbutterlatte
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Is it confirmed to be the same overworld, or did they literally use an old picture to highlight how they're translating the art styles and people are being morons?
It's NSMB2 all over again. Gold gold gold GOLD!
bequietdrive
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Could be really cool, cautiously optimistic about this one.
Kamek Koopa
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Reggie said this game takes place in the same game world that AlttP but with a new story and dungeons. Don't know what it means but don't like the sound of it.
KojiKnight
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You could make that same of any zelda game... That said, Nintendo can't win with the Zelda series. They try something new? Then it's not the same. Go back and make the game more traditional? Then it's just the "same old same old" and "a quick cash grab".
Golly, this thread brings out the fanboy in me more than anything.
Lightning Lord
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Well, they said in the video it takes place in the same world as ALttP but with new dungeons and the like, so I would assume the overworld is going to be pretty similar, if anything.
I love that Nintendo is feeding off Nostalgia, but these slight changing of art styles really ruins the charm, WindWaker HD just doesn't quite look right and over bloomy, and this while totally setting off my childhood memories just doesn't have the same charm. They could make some beautiful looking 2D game on the hardware, but we end up with an iffy looking 3D aliased top down one instead. Everything in the game had a kind of menacing feel to it, even the buzz blobs were creepy, but this, nope, not feeling it, which is a real damn shame.
The one hope with all this Zelda remakes and going back to old games worlds is that we will one day get an old school 2D Metroid style game, though saying that I wouldn't want it if it ends up getting the same treatment.
The one hope with all this Zelda remakes and going back to old games worlds is that we will one day get an old school 2D Metroid style game, though saying that I wouldn't want it if it ends up getting the same treatment.
Most definitely . Hopefully they can create one as beautiful as the Zelda 3DS but in the XL version. Need a 3DS now, too many games i have missed.
peanutbutterlatte
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Does nobody realise that them not pushing the graphics means they can potentially have a much bigger overworld?
dragonbane
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Unfortunately this is not exciting me. I wanted to buy a 3DS for Zelda, but I really want a new world, not an old one I know by heart. Even with completely new content, this is not doing it for me sadly.
Expected a bit more. I hope this is not the "real" Zelda for the 3DS.
Expected a bit more. I hope this is not the "real" Zelda for the 3DS.
Master's Sword
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I am Korean.
It's not a hub world.
This is about a billion times better than any game using a hub world.
peanutbutterlatte
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Hm does "world" = "overworld" though? Link's Awakening technically took place in the same "world" as LttP
That's right. Just using that as an example. Whatever it is now should be there though. Or another world or reality if we are keeping with the same themes.
Wait, are you saying the dungeons are integrated into the overworld this time? They're not separate zones this time?
shinobi602
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Hmm? I just vastly prefer the 3D Zeldas.
ThatObviousUser
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"This is the Master Sword. And this... is what is known as the Master Sword that has ascended past the Master Sword. Or, you could just call this the True Master Sword. And this... is to go even further beyond!"
SlowRevolution
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Cool news but the art style is pretty bad, at least from what they showed. It seems like they're going for a claymation type look which could be cool, but I don't think they pulled it off.
Kind of agree with other posters' complaints about Nintendo playing on nostalgia.
Kind of agree with other posters' complaints about Nintendo playing on nostalgia.
If you're going to have a beef with Zelda graphics evolving surely it would lie with OoT when it went 3D, or MM that just lifted models and music wholesale, or the Celda controversy, or maybe the non Celda controversy of TP, or WW doesn't work on the DS with PH and ST. Feels odd to suddenly pick this one game out as being the tipping point, especially when it is so close to classic Zelda looks.
TalesOfWin
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havent kept up with the thread. Is this a new game or a remake?
peanutbutterlatte
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Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass sullied Celda's good name. And all in low-res DS graphics, ick. You want a sprite based Zelda? DS should have definitely had a sprite based Zelda.No more Celda
KojiKnight
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Yeah... but you've had a shit ton of 3D zeldas lately. Let us LttP fans have this game. Then you can go back to your slightly improved OoT sequels every couple years
Yeah... but you've had a shit ton of 3D zeldas lately. Let us LttP fans have this game. Then you can go back to your slightly improved OoT sequels every couple years
Two? And one was just a remake.
Thanks for quashing my dreams!! I know that's the reason they don't do it, but I can still dream. At least I'm not the only person who thinks 2.5D is hideous.
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