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dcx4610 · Aug 20, 2017

Sonic Mania's positive reviews has me thinking of all of the games that went back to their roots. The biggest stand out to me that hasn't done this is Ninja Gaiden.

One of the quintessential 2D action games of its time and in my opinion, the tightest/precise gameplay out of all of them.

I'm not a fan of the 3D Ninja Gaidens at all. The tone, the story, the gameplay. It doesn't feel like Ninja Gaiden at all.

Why not a part 4 that is 2D, challenging and a true sequel?

Transistor · Aug 20, 2017

Because 3 was terrible. Although I agree a 2D revisit could be good

-shadow- · Aug 20, 2017

I think 3 might've killed the potential future it had...

Nibel · Aug 20, 2017

We don't niohd it anymore

Hedgey · Aug 20, 2017

Nibel said:
We don't niohd it anymore

OP was talking about the 2D games.
Could be nice to revisit honestly

purseowner · Aug 20, 2017

MattAces · Aug 20, 2017

Every single new thread I click is somehow Sonic Mania related.

Revas · Aug 20, 2017

I'd prefer a 3D return to Ninja Gaiden(Black)'s roots but I'd play a 2D version if done correctly. Apparently they're in no rush to make another game after 3 underwhelmed. I tend to think that if they don't have the ability to do the game justice there's no reason to attempt a new one, see Mass Effect: Andromeda.

IbukiLordSA · Aug 20, 2017

I blame Yaiba uhg

At least 3 was salvaged into Razors Edge and that was good fun.

Finaika · Aug 20, 2017

2D is expensive, ask SNK.

Eolz · Aug 20, 2017

Because KT has no interest in 2D games, TN is busy with other stuff, there's no super talented fans wanting to make a 2D fangame as far we know, and there's not exactly a big nostalgia for 2D Ninja Gaiden.

It's like when people say they want a new 2D Castlevania, they usually mean a post SOTN Metroidvania sadly, not a classic one.

Rygar 8 Bit · Aug 20, 2017

bring back the 80s ninja action

Fisty · Aug 20, 2017

I feel this would be something an indie would get right before modern Koei Tecmo

Renna Hazel · Aug 20, 2017

Revas said:
I'd prefer a 3D return to Ninja Gaiden(Black)'s roots but I'd play a 2D version if done correctly. Apparently they're in no rush to make another game after 3 underwhelmed. I tend to think that if they don't have the ability to do the game justice there's no reason to attempt a new one, see Mass Effect: Andromeda.

This. A 2D version would be fun but I'd greatly prefer a return to Ninja Gaiden Black/2. There is just nothing else quite like it, at least from what I've played.

family_guy · Aug 20, 2017

Transistor said:
Because 3 was terrible. Although I agree a 2D revisit could be good

If one bad game could kill a franchise we wouldn't have got stuff like Devil May Cry 3. Maybe they just moved on.

pswii60 · Aug 20, 2017

purseowner said:

WTFITS

PositiveGamer · Aug 20, 2017

Because NG 3 and Yaiba came out..

Those murdered the franchise.

Rymuth · Aug 20, 2017

Because of Yaiba

Maybe I can say that Nioh is a gateway into the next chapter for Ninja Gaiden. [Ninja Gaiden] is a very important, if not the most important franchise, for us. But at this point I think this franchise needs to be in the shadows for a while until we bring it back. There will be a time, and when the time is right, we will bring it back."

Hayabusa... zombies... cel-shaded... just throwing a bunch of different things into that. We don't wanna backpedal on our decisions, but it wasn't the right move, I think. But we learned a lot. Just like this Nioh experience, you only learn things by failure. And I don't think we could have made this game if we hadn't had the Yaiba experience

Psxphile · Aug 20, 2017

best in the business

I had always wanted to see what they could do in the 16-bit era, but all we got was a shitty port job of the first three w/ some touched up artwork.

Kalentan · Aug 20, 2017

Most likely they will be focusing on Nioh for a while.

shaowebb · Aug 20, 2017

Nibel said:
We don't niohd it anymore

Perfection.

BriGuy · Aug 20, 2017

The original series is way too goddamn hard and nobody today is good enough to play through a theoretical NG4.

Eolz · Aug 20, 2017

Can people read the OP and see that this is about the 2D series?
The title is pretty unclear to be fair, but come on, it's just some lines.

NeoZeedeater · Aug 20, 2017

There was a fourth game similar to the NES trilogy. I don't think it's as good but it's still well worth playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWo-Lm0FQZo

Cartho · Aug 20, 2017

I feel like Nioh is kind of a modern, spiritual successor to NG anyway.

dcx4610 · Aug 20, 2017

If you think 3 was bad, you really need to replay it.

Yeah, the story wasn't as good and it wasn't as memorable as 1 or 2 but the gameplay is perfect and no respawning enemies. It's still a hard game though and I don't think many people gave it a chance.

sixteen-bit · Aug 20, 2017

pick up this issue to find out!

Coda · Aug 20, 2017

I would've really enjoyed the Ninja Gaiden game we all deserved. 3 had some good ideas and nice camera kills but overall the enemies and environments as a whole were as bland as they get. The game had no style.

Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2 were both great IMO.

I did also enjoy Devil's Third a lot, well at least the multiplayer. The single player campaign was decent at best for me.

As far as 2D Ninja Gaiden games I agree we need more platforming 2D action games.

I recently burned a copy of Shinrei Jusatsushi Tarōmaru for the Saturn which gave me some Ninja Gaiden feels, if you've never tried it.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/taromaru/taromaru.htm

Psxphile · Aug 20, 2017

BriGuy said:
The original series is way too goddamn hard and nobody today is good enough to play through a theoretical NG4.

I'll take that bet.

K' Dash · Aug 20, 2017

Nibel said:
We don't niohd it anymore

A poor mans attempt at a souls game, nioh feels like a rejected idea from From.

OP was talking about 2D.

SomedayTheFire · Aug 20, 2017

purseowner said:

lmao what the fuck is this post

Cartho · Aug 20, 2017

K' Dash said:
A poor mans attempt at a souls game, nioh feels like a rejected idea from From.

OP was talking about 2D.

Except the part where Nioh had a better combat system than any of the Souls series save perhaps for Bloodborne. Enemy design let it down but I think you're being very unfair - Nioh was a quality game with a superb combat system.

Deku Tree · Aug 20, 2017

Nioh2 instead plz

Peroroncino · Aug 20, 2017

2D? Nah-uh, 3D or don't even bother.

MR ARCADE FOREVER · Aug 20, 2017

We need a new Ninja Gaiden made by team ninja in collaboration with From software (less like Nioh) and a new Shinobi made by Platinum

Jawmuncher · Aug 20, 2017

Can you imagine the shit storm if they went

"Ninja Gaiden 4! 2D digital only platformer this holiday".

Even with the flaws of 3 the series needs to come back as a top tier 3D action game.

Ninjimbo · Aug 20, 2017

Bansai said:
2D? Nah-uh, 3D or don't even bother.

Yep. The 2D games are kinda crap compared to what the 3D games did.

Duffk1ng · Aug 20, 2017

The hit to miss ratio in the series is negative currently imo, or equal if you consider ngb its own game. Might as well try and fix that.

The first and ngb are excellent, 2 is just about OK if you stop at mentor difficulty and outright bad if you don't, 3 is just bad in every aspect.

Glass Rebel · Aug 20, 2017

They should put the 3D games on ice for a while and give it to the Hard Corps team at ArcSys.

"God's Beard!" · Aug 20, 2017

Eolz · Aug 20, 2017

THEBONDIGTY said:
We need a new Ninja Gaiden made by team ninja in collaboration with From software (less like Nioh) and a new Shinobi made by Platinum

From already did their 3D Ninja Gaiden in the past and it wasn't good at all. Why would you even want that?

Ben Morales · Aug 20, 2017

Eolz said:
From already did their 3D Ninja Gaiden in the past and it wasn't good at all. Why would you even want that?

Aww come on Ninja Blade was actually kinda fun. 😜

pretty done · Aug 20, 2017

Why would you want this after Ninja Gaiden 3? The Razors Edge version was still terrible despite the fanboys trying to convince everyone otherwise early on.

Nioh 2 with some environmental and enemy variety. And better level design. These dudes suck at character action but they seem to have found their place inbetween Souls and action.

Zeextremekid · Aug 20, 2017

I'd rather have a sequel to Nioh.

The current Team Ninja imo shouldn't make another Ninja Gaiden, that was Itagaki's project that was passed on to them.

stn · Aug 20, 2017

Yaiba was shit, vanilla 3 was shit, and Razor's Edge was mediocre. I also do not prefer Sigma 1 or 2 over each original. Their recent record is terrible.

moltonasty · Aug 20, 2017

Hey, I liked Razor's Edge :shrug:

Didn't play Yaiba, but IIRC it wasn't the main team and it's a spin-off anyway.

I seem to remember Ninja Team saying they would like to make a NG4 in the future but wanted to focus on Nioh first..so maybe next?

okabekah · Aug 20, 2017

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That screen tear tho.

ModBot · Aug 20, 2017

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