DeadlyParasite
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So do we even know what these higher-tiered sub options even give to the subscriber beyond more money towards the caster and some small, minor, and insignificant features?
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Rumor : Twitch subscriptions are about to change, adding 2 new options
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Easy Allies, but that's what Patreon is for.
I mean, there's a whole movie being made around the concept of emotes.
MrS
Banned
Having talked to a few partnered streamers the biggest issue they have expressed is the fact Twitch wants to make a tiered subscriber system. They have no issue with the concept of getting more money but setting up the system so one set of subscribers is worth more than others is a controversial thing.
fredrancour
Member
Twitch is just trying to move the whale-hunting systems that have built up from outside sites into itself. Bits/cheers were to provide a donation system other than "send your viewers to PayPal." Now they want a slice of patron money.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
What has become clear to me is that for some, twitch has replaced watching TV every night. I remember Dan with some ungodly amount of people watching him put together a desk. The plans that Twitch have for the future looks like it will end up being justin.tv 2.0 in the end. The front page advertising cooking streams, eating streams, craft streams, music streams right along side gaming streams can't be that far away.
It has always been about extracting money! Do you think they were ever in it for goodwill and happy vibes? The Amazon purchase has given them the know how and support to do more with the site, but also has given them and streamers more ways to make money. It's all optional though. If you don't want to pay, you don't have to. If you don't pay you are watching ads, which is giving them money anyway.
Stupid subs who only spam stupid purple lady face in other streams. THEY RUIN MY CHAT EXPERIENCE EVERYWHERE, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WATCH MY SWEET GAMES IN PEACE IF THEY ARE ALWAYS SPAMMING THEIR STUPID SUB EMOTES
Maintenance
Member
$25?
Wew lads.
Wew lads.
you should tell him that in your next sub message
Yeah, I can see where that could get a bit messy. Right now it's easy since it's a subs vs non-subs, but tossing in tiered benefits for subscribers could cause issues with a particular streamer's own communities.
Honestly I think it'll be fine, but I can see some bumps in the road at first as folks get used to it.
Dice//
Banned
This shit is 100x cuter.If I had the disposable income for it (I don't, not even close) I'd do it for Easy Allies for sure. Though it'd be better to give directly to their Patreon either way. I'm sure there's people with money who will gladly do it for people they enjoy and want to support.
Yes. I mean, fucking half? That's just brutal.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I stay with my free option.
Rockin' Ranger
Member
I can't see streamers with a Patreon absent last wanting people switching to a higher sub since Twitch takes way more money.
They take less from strangers with more subs, but even then it's still 30-40% compared to a little more than 5% with the cut Patreon takes.
Diablohead
Member
it's not too bad at $5 a month but not $25, also i'm guessing twitch will take 50% cut still so you are better off using patreon still to lose less per person.
KZXcellent
Member
Twitch is continuing to develop ways to get curb donations and get in on the money. This is why they implemented bits. I don't see this as a great proposition just because any recurring payment that's above 15$ that isn't a bill horrifies me.
People will probably use bits and donations more when they want to shower the streamer with cash. More revenue streams aren't a bad thing though, this one just doesn't seem like it'll do well.
People will probably use bits and donations more when they want to shower the streamer with cash. More revenue streams aren't a bad thing though, this one just doesn't seem like it'll do well.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Id think at $25 a month you could start saving for a gaming machine and all the games that that streamer plays...
No offense, but the 3 decades I've spent on earth, spending 25 or so years playing games, none of that makes sense.
I want to start an ad agency called "Game for Yourself" and get kids or young adults playing games versus spending money like this.
Don't get me wrong, nothings wrong about supporting something you believe in, but it's throwing your money away just so someone recognizes your Twitch username and something you can type out on a keyboard in the matter of seconds. To me, this is taking a lot of money from people for exploiting their hobby.
No offense, but the 3 decades I've spent on earth, spending 25 or so years playing games, none of that makes sense.
I want to start an ad agency called "Game for Yourself" and get kids or young adults playing games versus spending money like this.
Don't get me wrong, nothings wrong about supporting something you believe in, but it's throwing your money away just so someone recognizes your Twitch username and something you can type out on a keyboard in the matter of seconds. To me, this is taking a lot of money from people for exploiting their hobby.
KZXcellent
Member
Eh, people donate and subscribe to people on twitch because they like the stream and want to support the streamer. They like the personality and the show that the person is putting on. I've donated/subscribed from time to time and I still game constantly.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I just see money going into places that won't actually benefit the person. No offense if you actually believe it does, but for that amount of money you could pay off bills, save up for a house, a new car, and still buy games to play. $25+ is a lot of money in today's society.
I can see $5 being ok, but those larger amounts for someone to sit at home and play games for a living is a bit much.
HarryDemeanor
Member
$10 a month is already stretching it. $25 is just crazy even if you like the streamer.
MultiJhonny
Banned
I agree.
This is really cool though but I think the Patreon/Twitch setup for a lot is fine.
It absolutely shocks me that twitch has allowed destiny to piggyback his own site and have his own subs thru the site while using twitch. I remember there was some flack from twitch telling destiny to retain 500 subs thru twitch. Yet destiny still reaped so much using his own site while using the twitch portal and funneling his stream thru his I own site, destiny said several times he never reads twitch chat and only reads his own website video chat. Which clearly copied twitch format in every way even having his own emotes.
Twitch just allows some veterans to get away with another set of rules than new streamers.
Edit: oh on another note apparently cohh carnage has gotten enough money to have approached the people who own the S.T.A.L.K.E.R rights and written twice asking to buy the IP I heard him mention it on todays stream briefly. They did not respond either time he said.
Fix-It Felix. Jr.
Member
hmm, I have five more months of paid subs with my favourite streamer. I wonder if I'd be able to upgrade to the $25 tier once he gets this option.
I really like squirrel. He is not you're average streamer. Just a really cool and nice guy. Really clean streams without swearing. I'd pay him 10 bucks a month.
Andronicus
Banned
in my opinion No
Exploratory
Banned
Fuck that. I'd rather donate. Twitch just wants more of it's cut.
newtypepilot
Member
This is just Twitch trying to take a bigger share of the pie as there are plenty of viewers that donate this amount of money to their favourite streamers on a regular basis. (Twitch cannot take a cut on the donation money). Remember Twitch takes a 50% cut for every sub so they are raking in $12.50 at the $25 tier as opposed to $2.50.
Velcro Fly
Member
Reaction will be the same as bits/cheering
People will be mad but get over it in a second when their favorite streamer embraces it.
Also the more gradual emote unlocks and them being permanent is great. I'm really glad Twitch seems to be listening to their streamers.
People will be mad but get over it in a second when their favorite streamer embraces it.
Also the more gradual emote unlocks and them being permanent is great. I'm really glad Twitch seems to be listening to their streamers.
Iastfan112
Neo Member
I know MOONMOON_OW has mentioned he gets 3 something(I want to say 3.20) for every sub.
Danis Saur
Member
People OBSESS over streamers, so yes this will work.
Background noise
I never sit down and JUST watch a stream. I'm playing overwatch with a stream on my second monitor right now
Frozenprince
Banned
Awwww yeah Easy Allies we getting that studio! (I hope).
Really, if you have enough income after family/food/utilities to support someone like this, then you probably aren't living a rewarding life. You could use that money to see a sport of your choice, go to a play, donate to a cause, support actual arts instead of e-buskers that make funny noises while they play video games.
Or yeah, what the monk said. (Only saw this after I made this post.)
I do not live a rewarding life.
NorthEastMonk said:
Or yeah, what the monk said. (Only saw this after I made this post.)
This will no doubt be very successful and lucrative.
Yup, my only sub is to a guy speed running dark souls, and i don't even really like those games. I randomly clicked his stream to see if "high level" was something I was missing and just ended up keeping the stream on for his voice and personality. Most of the time, unless his current run is far along, I have the stream on audio only, and read gaf or play something.
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