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Rumor : Twitch subscriptions are about to change, adding 2 new options
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EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Twitch is rich!
Shai-Tan
Banned
There are costs of running the platform. Including a large amount of streams that aren't partnered at all and have no subs.
Anyway, many Twitch streamers get most of their money from third party donations which they also tried to bring in house with "Cheer" emotes that I'm guessing wasn't very successful considering almost every popular stream I've looked at is still using third party donations.
Snkfanatic
Banned
For me it's mostly something to have on in the background while doing other things. Then I got into Speedruns after the GDQ earlier this year and found a couple streamers who play older games I love and that's even better.
I get that it does seem strange, anytime I tell people what I do or watch it's literally the same response "You watch people play videogames? Really?" but hey, I find it fun so why not.
I remember people being able to donate any amount they wanted through Twitch, did they axe that completely in favour of the subscriber model? The only issue I have is if this creates "tiers" of subs, because streamers do turn the chat to "sub-mode" occasionally, and I'd be miffed if I gave someone 5 bucks, then couldn't comment if they ran 25 dollar sub-mode regularly.
Shai-Tan
Banned
most donations don't go through Twitch. it's only if the are using Cheers that Twitch gets a cut.
Shai-Tan
Banned
Aside from variety streaming which is more about the personality of the streamer there are some types of games where there is an "educational" aspect e.g. learning different characters in Dota or how to deck build and play decks in Hearthstone.
What is also missed is the community aspect of it. It really is just an IRC chat room bolted on to a video stream. Some of them are chaos but 2000 and less users you can still have regular conversations.
Yeah, people seem to have this strange notion that a platform for streaming high-quality video to thousands upon thousands of mostly non-paying users is some form of "easy money". I mean, if I was going to try to build an internet business, something like Twitch or Youtube is probably the last thing I would ever attempt.
BlackClouds
Member
If you have to ask if $25 is worth it you can't afford it anyways so don't do it. Somebody like Lirik and Summit1G (I have seen one dude give 2 $10k donations back to back) are going to make a killing.
Doesn't it say the bigger donations just mean concurrent $5 subs? If anything, this will be used for people to not have to worry about subtrains and subscriber benefits. I'm sure there will be just as many people using them as subs in advance as there are tipping.
Leafhopper
Banned
It hasn't been about games for years.
TyMiles2012
Member
I haven't viewed on Twitch in years, but I do have Twitch Prime. Will the whole "choose 1 streamer to subscribe to for free" still take place?
Yea, it's a part of the subscribe drop down at the top of the page when you go to a stream.
Cramoss
Member
It hasn't been about games for about two years now. It's all about the $$$$ people blindly pay.
100% this.
So glad I don't watch Twitch anymore, and I was a HUGE fan back in the JustinTV/Early Twitch days. Once it became about money, more and more streamers started acting obnoxious, filling up the screen with bullshit, and focusing on how to get donations from their viewers. That's when I said fuck this, I'm out!
It's been a good year or so since I stopped going to Twitch and I don't miss it one bit. Spectating matches at FightCade is where it's at for me.
nephilimdj
Member
I think people are mistaken blaming twitch, this is 100% the esport players/org doing.
We saw this last year with those insane demands of Riot Games.
We saw this last year with those insane demands of Riot Games.
Its the internets form of panhandling. Its a game in the background and the rest is begging for money. If people are willing so be it. I feel sorry for some of them because they are suffering from some mental health issue where they are confusing these people as their friend. Some of these streamers are going to have very severe stalker problems when they say the wrong thing to one of them. The whole thing seems like a set up for a steven king horror novel.
capitalCORN
Member
In the end it helps the streamers, and they're the ones broadcasting games so....
Sure, 'mental health issue', The only streams I know getting direct pay from Twitch are Esports channels like the Riot channels and ESL, and Games done Quick. Everyone else is at the mercy of the audience.
Damn, so he's making >$1 million/year if counting ad money and donations.
ISee
Member
Sounds like twitch wants that Patreon money.
In general I never even considered to support someone with more than 5/month because watching someone play games all the time is a rather boring concept to me. Granted I'm sometimes watching ENB for an hour if he plays a new souls game or take a look into a TIHYDP (DSP), but even that gets boring rather fast. The only YT creators I'm supporting are the EZA guys and even there 5/month are enough imo.
In general I never even considered to support someone with more than 5/month because watching someone play games all the time is a rather boring concept to me. Granted I'm sometimes watching ENB for an hour if he plays a new souls game or take a look into a TIHYDP (DSP), but even that gets boring rather fast. The only YT creators I'm supporting are the EZA guys and even there 5/month are enough imo.
archreaper93
Member
Max gets thousands of dollars each time he streams in subs and donations. I could easily see plenty of his subscribers doing the $25 tier.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Quin69
The answer is always yes for thousands of people out there.
People donate thousands of dollars to streamers just because. Not for charity, not because the streamer needs the money, not because the streamer just broke a world record or did something awesome. The streamer will just be playing the game on stream and suddenly "luigilover69 has donated $1000.00" will pop up on the screen.
It's kinda like the whale phenomenon with mobile games. 99% of people think "Who the hell would give a streamer that much money a month?". But that 1% absolutely exists, and they're willing to pay $25 and then some.
Man some of yall in this thread are fucked. I would never pay $25 a month to a streamer, but you literally cannot see that some people enjoy watching streamers and would pay money for them? It's no different than watching any other kind of entertainment, with the added benefit that streamers interact with you as well.
Same. Nothing strange about it. Just another way to recuperate from work for me. Others watch 24 hours news networks, sitcoms, or other dumb stuff. Everyone has their quirks.
I don't know how much Patreon takes from pledges, but wouldn't streamers still be better off just keeping one of those?
That and (continue to?) promote donations over subs.
Having a tiered option there in people's face will still pull in more money though, so eh. It will do its job.
That and (continue to?) promote donations over subs.
Having a tiered option there in people's face will still pull in more money though, so eh. It will do its job.
When I was younger I could never have imagined people paying $24.99 to watch someone or a group of people play video games "on TV" but it's an option and I could see myself paying such a sum for a month maybe two if I was really deep into a game like I used to be for WoW or DayZ.
Though I have to admit so far I've never even donated or subscribed to anyone, but I could see it happening.
Though I have to admit so far I've never even donated or subscribed to anyone, but I could see it happening.
I'll never understand people give money to twitch streamers tbh. Only person I ever donated to was Kyle McCarley for 5$ and that's only because he's the lead voice actor in the game he was playing and voiced a lot of unvoiced lines on stream, also brought in some of the other actors and had them do their lines. But people who throw out 100$+ on the regular? Hell no.
Plumpbiscuit
Member
TotalBiscuit just posted a piece about the new tiers and how he's not going to use them. However, there was an interesting part that I've seen mentioned in this thread.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spqcfc
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spqcfc
Velcro Fly
Member
Everybody hopping on the Twitch gravy train soon.
This is cool for a guy I watch occasionally that has had the goal to become a partner but hasn't quite made it in terms of viewers. He definitely would qualify as an affiliate though.
This is cool for a guy I watch occasionally that has had the goal to become a partner but hasn't quite made it in terms of viewers. He definitely would qualify as an affiliate though.
This. Being gaming my entire life but this whole "tiered Sub plan" sounds incredibly stupid to me....and it's probably my age talking.
imtooldforthishit.gif
24k subs? Damn, lets say it's 50/50 and he gets 2.50 a month x 24k.. that's 60k a month right? And like mentioned before he's most likely one of the streamers that doesn't even have 50/50 either, and that's not counting donations/bits etc. God these guys are swimming in money.
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