Yuck
This is a thing everyone wants until you actually get it.
His DoFP costume was a good concession and the best that you could do to make that clown suit look good.
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Logan |OT| Children of (X)Men (SPOILERS)
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Yuck
This is a thing everyone wants until you actually get it.
His DoFP costume was a good concession and the best that you could do to make that clown suit look good.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I'm assuming the Laura actress/character is bearable then?
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yeah, but they go on patrols in their respective cities. Being a superhero is their purpose, their identity. So they announce it via their costume. Wolverine doesn't give a fuck. If he sees trouble, he'll help, that's it.
She's kinda just there. Hell, she doesn't even talk much until the latter half.
Fucking terrifying fighter though.
That's true for a number of superheroes right? They all do shit out of their costumes. Peter will save someone regardless of what he's wearing.
Well, for the character of Logan in particular -- at least, in the movies -- he doesn't see the need for the costume if he wanted to. He's cool with it if it needs to be done as a formality, but if he had a choice, it looks like he just won't give a damn.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
In the age of the MCU where secret identities are becoming meaningless, you have a point. But traditionally, superheroes like Spider-Man, Batman and Superman make sure to act differently when they're not in costume and if they see trouble, they'll either find a phone booth to change or use their abilities discreetly. There is a clear differentiation between their two personas and that is represented by their costume.
Wolverine doesn't care. He has only one persona. So there's no need for a costume.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's something I'll have to actually see before I can make a final judgment (kinda like the Wonder Woman movie, although I'm more hesitant to see that strictly because of the people involved), but boy howdy does the X-24 stuff sound bad.
How about never
I agree, it was a smart move by Fox.
How about never
Chained Prometheus
Member
I assume you're referring to that
X-24
Are they the one that has the Daken-like claws fighting Logan in that one moment at the end of the non-red band version of the first trailer?
BronsonLee
Member
If it helps, I could always wear the costume
Professor Beef
Banned
Well you meet the height requirem-*booted*
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yes, it would help. Now let's see those pictures, I expect greatness.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
PLOT SUMMARY:
Logan, who lives in an abandoned building next to a knocked over, emptied water tower, drives a limo around for money. He drives the limo to earn money to charter a yacht. He wants the yacht so he can take Charles Xavier (who is afflicted with Alzheimer's and lives in the water tower due to the debilitating nature his seizures have on anyone within distance of him) out on the ocean to live for what little time he has left. At which point Logan will shoot himself in the head with an adamantium bullet, leaving the boat and the disposal of both their corpses to their caretaker, Caliban. That's all Logan wants to do at the beginning of the film: Grouse at Caliban, keep the Professor drugged and comfortable (ish), help him die peacefully, and then punch his own ticket.
A desperate woman with a weird little girl starts popping up in Logan's life, which annoys him because this is another complication he doesn't have time for, and he really doesn't give a fuck about whatever this desperate woman with the weird little girl wants. Turns out she's a nurse from a hospital where corporate doctors have been recreating mutantkind as weapons. They're recreating mutants (Caliban is, I believe, one of these recreations) because the species has completely died off (save for Logan & Charles) in the last 20 years—no new mutants have been born, and some sort of apocalyptic event on the East Coast killed every other Mutant off. The cause of this event is never outright stated, but pretty heavily hinted at.
The lab's special ops team is hunting the Nurse, who helped spring all the children scheduled for termination at the lab after higher ups determined they'd failed as experiments. She finally tricks Logan into contacting her, where she lays out that the weird little girl is named Laura, and asks him to take her to a safe-house in North Dakota (I think?). She gives him the money he needs for his yacht, so he reluctantly agrees. The special ops team, which has contacted Logan once already, finds the nurse after he's left with Laura, kills her, and shows up at Logan's door looking for Laura.
Things go way fucking sideways, and Logan, Charles, and Laura go on the run. They stop at a casino to change clothes and recuperate for a second. The Ops team finds them, just in time for Charles to have a seizure (he's gotten pissy about taking his pills since Laura's shown up and he has someone new to telepathically communicate with). Logan & Laura have to not only clear the hotel of bad guys, but they have to stop Charles from accidentally popping everyone's heads like Scanners.
After leaving the casino, Logan (who's healing factor is fucked by the way) almost crashes their vehicle, necessitating Charles using his powers successfully to save both them, some horses, and the horses' owners—a small family, with a small farm. The farmers have them over to their house as a thank you, but complications ensue with the farmers' neighbors, who are real dickheads about access to their water. While Logan is handling that mess, the Ops team finds them once again, and shit goes about 3x as sideways as it did at Logan's place, thanks to their rolling out X-24, the culmination of their previous experiments on the children.
They barely escape that fight, and after a couple small emergencies and a shouting match or two, they finally, miraculously reach their destination (which Logan didn't believe even existed) but are, one last time, tracked. The forest outside the safe house is the setting of the final battle, which is also a race against time to cross the border into Canada's safe haven, before X-24 & the Lab guys kill everyone.
That's basically the movie.
Logan, who lives in an abandoned building next to a knocked over, emptied water tower, drives a limo around for money. He drives the limo to earn money to charter a yacht. He wants the yacht so he can take Charles Xavier (who is afflicted with Alzheimer's and lives in the water tower due to the debilitating nature his seizures have on anyone within distance of him) out on the ocean to live for what little time he has left. At which point Logan will shoot himself in the head with an adamantium bullet, leaving the boat and the disposal of both their corpses to their caretaker, Caliban. That's all Logan wants to do at the beginning of the film: Grouse at Caliban, keep the Professor drugged and comfortable (ish), help him die peacefully, and then punch his own ticket.
A desperate woman with a weird little girl starts popping up in Logan's life, which annoys him because this is another complication he doesn't have time for, and he really doesn't give a fuck about whatever this desperate woman with the weird little girl wants. Turns out she's a nurse from a hospital where corporate doctors have been recreating mutantkind as weapons. They're recreating mutants (Caliban is, I believe, one of these recreations) because the species has completely died off (save for Logan & Charles) in the last 20 years—no new mutants have been born, and some sort of apocalyptic event on the East Coast killed every other Mutant off. The cause of this event is never outright stated, but pretty heavily hinted at.
The lab's special ops team is hunting the Nurse, who helped spring all the children scheduled for termination at the lab after higher ups determined they'd failed as experiments. She finally tricks Logan into contacting her, where she lays out that the weird little girl is named Laura, and asks him to take her to a safe-house in North Dakota (I think?). She gives him the money he needs for his yacht, so he reluctantly agrees. The special ops team, which has contacted Logan once already, finds the nurse after he's left with Laura, kills her, and shows up at Logan's door looking for Laura.
Things go way fucking sideways, and Logan, Charles, and Laura go on the run. They stop at a casino to change clothes and recuperate for a second. The Ops team finds them, just in time for Charles to have a seizure (he's gotten pissy about taking his pills since Laura's shown up and he has someone new to telepathically communicate with). Logan & Laura have to not only clear the hotel of bad guys, but they have to stop Charles from accidentally popping everyone's heads like Scanners.
After leaving the casino, Logan (who's healing factor is fucked by the way) almost crashes their vehicle, necessitating Charles using his powers successfully to save both them, some horses, and the horses' owners—a small family, with a small farm. The farmers have them over to their house as a thank you, but complications ensue with the farmers' neighbors, who are real dickheads about access to their water. While Logan is handling that mess, the Ops team finds them once again, and shit goes about 3x as sideways as it did at Logan's place, thanks to their rolling out X-24, the culmination of their previous experiments on the children.
They barely escape that fight, and after a couple small emergencies and a shouting match or two, they finally, miraculously reach their destination (which Logan didn't believe even existed) but are, one last time, tracked. The forest outside the safe house is the setting of the final battle, which is also a race against time to cross the border into Canada's safe haven, before X-24 & the Lab guys kill everyone.
That's basically the movie.
distantmantra
Member
So something terrible happens in the happy post-DOFP future timeline? Sounds more extreme than "no more mutants."
Professor Beef
Banned
It's hinted that Xavier basically wiped them all out
Not INTENTIONALLY, of course, but yeah
Welp guess I ain't seein it
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yup. Sounds like a fucked up western in all the best ways. That increases my hype. Thank you.
More_Badass
Member
Yes, it sounds like a really well-paced big budget chase movie. What was the last time we got one of those?
That description alone just made me not wanna see it. DT and Kris & DPalm better like it
Sibersk Esto
Banned
More_Badass
Member
Shit, now I feel silly. But yeah, it's been two years
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's not even all that fast paced, actually. There's a good amount of downtime and breathing room. But when shit happens, it fucking happens, yunno? And the downtime makes those set pieces more impactful when they do pop off.
Edit: yeah, well-paced is a better descriptor than fast-paced. That last act does start to feel a little wobbly, but the end is perfect.
Edit: yeah, well-paced is a better descriptor than fast-paced. That last act does start to feel a little wobbly, but the end is perfect.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Good. Making you care about the characters makes the shit going sideways more impactful.
Damn. You weren't being sarcastic? I thought you were referring to Fury Road with that post.
Professor Beef
Banned
The fact that people are praising the pacing is making me happy. I can take a wackadoo movie plot if the movie itself is made/shot well.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I'm always amazed at how well-received these movies are by critics, especially given they don't respect their own canon and don't feel anything like comic book movies.
Then I realize that last part is probably why critics love them. *shrug*
I'll have to catch Logan just to see Hugh's final bow as Wolverine, but I can't say I'm that optimistic about how much I'll enjoy it.
Then I realize that last part is probably why critics love them. *shrug*
I'll have to catch Logan just to see Hugh's final bow as Wolverine, but I can't say I'm that optimistic about how much I'll enjoy it.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The comics themselves don't respect their own canon.
Most comics canon is fucking trash.
I agree that translating the feel of the characters is very important, and it'd be really cool if indvidual arcs and/or graphic novel collections were faithfully adapted more often. Like... ever. But I'm not going to knock a superhero movie for ignoring its own "canon" in publishing. A lot of that shit should be ignored. Some really ugly exquisite corpses littering that field.
Most comics canon is fucking trash.
I agree that translating the feel of the characters is very important, and it'd be really cool if indvidual arcs and/or graphic novel collections were faithfully adapted more often. Like... ever. But I'm not going to knock a superhero movie for ignoring its own "canon" in publishing. A lot of that shit should be ignored. Some really ugly exquisite corpses littering that field.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Oh, I'm not talking about the comics canon. I'm talking about the movie's. I'm still completely unable to reconcile what the hell happened, and in what order between X-Men and Apocalypse. Much less this film which Fox seems to be claiming exists in its own universe. I'm not gonna pretend I like the portrayal of the X-Men in any of the movies outside of maybe X2, but I'd enjoy them a lot more if the timeline made a lick of sense.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Ah! Gotcha. Apologies for misunderstanding.
Well, there was a graphic that I think MTV of all places put out right after Days of Future Past came out that explained it pretty cleanly.
SO: This movie takes place like, six years after DoFP's ending in 2023. Something like that. And to further confuse you - obviously some of the stuff that was retconned out BY that movie has obviously happened in the NEW timeline, but in a different way. So there are references to things you saw, but didn't actually happen the way you saw it happen.
But they're just throwaway references so it doesn't really matter, and most audiences aren't even going to register that that stuff doesn't "count" anymore either so it works either way.
Well, there was a graphic that I think MTV of all places put out right after Days of Future Past came out that explained it pretty cleanly.
SO: This movie takes place like, six years after DoFP's ending in 2023. Something like that. And to further confuse you - obviously some of the stuff that was retconned out BY that movie has obviously happened in the NEW timeline, but in a different way. So there are references to things you saw, but didn't actually happen the way you saw it happen.
But they're just throwaway references so it doesn't really matter, and most audiences aren't even going to register that that stuff doesn't "count" anymore either so it works either way.
BronsonLee
Member
I hope you hate it
Bobby Roberts
Banned
MugiwaraCole
Member
Ah! Gotcha. Apologies for misunderstanding.
Well, there was a graphic that I think MTV of all places put out right after Days of Future Past came out that explained it pretty cleanly.
SO: This movie takes place like, six years after DoFP's ending in 2023. Something like that. And to further confuse you - obviously some of the stuff that was retconned out BY that movie has obviously happened in the NEW timeline, but in a different way. So there are references to things you saw, but didn't actually happen the way you saw it happen.
But they're just throwaway references so it doesn't really matter, and most audiences aren't even going to register that that stuff doesn't "count" anymore either so it works either way.
Jesus, none of this makes sense. Fox needs to just call a spade a spade and admit every movie is its own thing lmao
PhoncipleBone
Banned
So it is a rather accurate take on X-Men continuity? Their continuity has been fucked six ways from Sunday since the 80s.
All you need to know for this movie is that:
The prologue/intro of X-Men Origins still happened
Apocalypse happened
And some variant of X-Men, X2, and The Wolverine happened.
"Jean's dead? Oh, I didn't realize it was Friday already."
captainraincoat
Banned
Just read the plot sypnosis ....didnt striker shoot wolverine in the head with a bullet that was the same metal as his skeleton and he survived???....but with memory loss
Or did he forget that as well??
Or do we ignore the first xmen origins movie
Or am i overthinking a comicbook movie??
Or did he forget that as well??
Or do we ignore the first xmen origins movie
Or am i overthinking a comicbook movie??
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Man, I don't remember shit about Origins, but I don't remember if it was that the bullet was adamantium, or that it was because Stryker specifically SHOT HIM in a part of his brain that would wipe his memory when it grew back? Or that the bullet would lodge there and the wound would close around it, thus forever trapping it there and causing the memory loss?
Whatever. It's horseshit. The point is that - adamantium will penetrate his skull, so he wants to put it in his brain. His healing factor is diminished enough that he probably would not survive a point blank shot to the brain anymore.
Soundtrack list is out (gotta admit, it's a bit weird seeing these after the movie). No previews yet though.
1. Main Titles
2. Laura
3. The Grim Reavers
4. Old Man Logan
5. Alternate Route to Mexico
6. That's Not a Choo-Choo
7. X-24
8. El Limo-nator
9. Gabriella's Video
10. To the Cemetery
11. Goodnight Moon
12. Farm Aid
13. Feral Tween
14. Driving to Mexico
15. You Can't Break the Mould
16. Up to Eden
17. Beyond the Hills
18. Into the Woods
19. Forest Fight
20. Logan vs. X-24
21. Don't Be What They Made You
22. Eternum - Laura's Theme
23. Logan's Limo
24. Loco Logan
25. Logan Drives
1. Main Titles
2. Laura
3. The Grim Reavers
4. Old Man Logan
5. Alternate Route to Mexico
6. That's Not a Choo-Choo
7. X-24
8. El Limo-nator
9. Gabriella's Video
10. To the Cemetery
11. Goodnight Moon
12. Farm Aid
13. Feral Tween
14. Driving to Mexico
15. You Can't Break the Mould
16. Up to Eden
17. Beyond the Hills
18. Into the Woods
19. Forest Fight
20. Logan vs. X-24
21. Don't Be What They Made You
22. Eternum - Laura's Theme
23. Logan's Limo
24. Loco Logan
25. Logan Drives
Future Foundation
Member
It was an adamantium bullet.
ronaldthump
Member
absolutely amazing movie.
just got done. Won't talk too much about details but we were all moved to tears when the movie finished. Nicholas and I both choked up twice but I could hardly hold it in at the end.
very very emotive, full of rage, pathos and humanity. This is the xmen movie that we should have had all along - it was somewhat strange hearing all these profanity coming out of Logan and Xavier's mouths but it also made sense.
I'd say its one of the most powerful movies I've seen of late. And of late, I mean the last 2-3 years. Maybe more. I don't recall weeping like this in a long time. Beautiful movie.
just got done. Won't talk too much about details but we were all moved to tears when the movie finished. Nicholas and I both choked up twice but I could hardly hold it in at the end.
very very emotive, full of rage, pathos and humanity. This is the xmen movie that we should have had all along - it was somewhat strange hearing all these profanity coming out of Logan and Xavier's mouths but it also made sense.
I'd say its one of the most powerful movies I've seen of late. And of late, I mean the last 2-3 years. Maybe more. I don't recall weeping like this in a long time. Beautiful movie.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Looks like the tracklist isn't in precise film order.
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