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Digital Foundry: "The Evil Within 2: The Complete PC And Xbox One Analysis"
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I know we don't need a Titan XP. Point is, the game looks like could easily run at 120+fps, especially at 720p.
This is a fantastic game, what are you talking about?
PC version is what I am talking about.
Rei dos Vermes
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i7 6700k
16GB DDR4 2400mhz
GTX 1080 Asus Strix
Windows 10 x64
TEW2 stutters like crazy from time to time for no apparent reason, despite running at locked 60 FPS 16.6ms at 1440p. The only way to remove the stutter completely is using the half refresh rate option, which limits the framerate at 30 on 60hz monitors. The game feels smoother/more consistent at 4K 30FPS if you don't play it with mouse and keyboard.
Let's hope a patch is on the way. But considering the first game still suffers from the same issue, I'm not expecting much...
16GB DDR4 2400mhz
GTX 1080 Asus Strix
Windows 10 x64
TEW2 stutters like crazy from time to time for no apparent reason, despite running at locked 60 FPS 16.6ms at 1440p. The only way to remove the stutter completely is using the half refresh rate option, which limits the framerate at 30 on 60hz monitors. The game feels smoother/more consistent at 4K 30FPS if you don't play it with mouse and keyboard.
Let's hope a patch is on the way. But considering the first game still suffers from the same issue, I'm not expecting much...
thehillissilent
Member
It can easily run at 120fps+ on a Titan XP at 720p. I'm playing with m/kb on GTX1080 and it feels so good playing at the framerate it's not even funny.
MontyBrown
Banned
I don't have any framerate monitor on, but with a 1070 and 7600K it doesn't feel far off 60fps to me (1080p/maxed).
The tech team struggled, it sucks, but tech problems don't mean the game is bad or that the developers were lazy.
C'mon, aside from frame stutter the port is sound. A "hot mess" is something Iike id Software's Rage with janked up megatextures. I guess id Tech 5 engine doesn't have the best track record.
I loving the game, but hate this kind of practice, I have never commented anything bad on the gameplay at all. Just like Nier Automata, love the game but people asked me if they should get the PC version on sales I told them the same thing, shit publishers don't deserve a single penny if they have to rely on fans to fix their garbage.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It's not what the article said?
thehillissilent
Member
I haven't read the article. I just watched the video. I'm talking about running 120fps+ at 720p resolution.
Shadowhaxor
Member
I don't follow that. I ran the game with the following specs and locked the frame rate to 60 with RTSS and I barely had any frame drops.
Xeon E3 1231 V3
GTX 1080p
Ultra Settings - Edit, originally said high and just checked, it's on ultra.
TAA and FXAA (I kept switching them around).
I have the footage to prove it as I streamed/record most of the game.
That said, why would I want to run the game at 720p@60fps? The point of playing it on the PC is so I don't have to run it at the levels a console would.
Xeon E3 1231 V3
GTX 1080p
Ultra Settings - Edit, originally said high and just checked, it's on ultra.
TAA and FXAA (I kept switching them around).
I have the footage to prove it as I streamed/record most of the game.
That said, why would I want to run the game at 720p@60fps? The point of playing it on the PC is so I don't have to run it at the levels a console would.
CrichtonKicks
Member
I don't have any solutions but I can say that I do not get micro-stutter in this game while I did get it very badly with Dishonored 2 until one of the recent patches. I also get micro-stutter in the first Evil Within unless I use the trick to run a frame counter at all times which, for some bizarre reason, is a known solution in that game.
I am getting 60 fps micro-stutter free 98% of the time with TEW 2. The other 2% aren't micro-stutter but actual framerate drops (58 fps is the lowest I have seen outside of cutscenes).
This is on a GTX 1070/ i7 6700k playing at 1080p on Ultra.
Rain City Gamer
Member
I have an i7 7700 + 1080 and I run it on 1440p on Ultra.
runs 55-62 fps. 95% of the time it is at 60+.
runs 55-62 fps. 95% of the time it is at 60+.
At least with Nier the game is mostly fine, but has some niggling issues.
These problems seem more impactful in some cases. Inefficiencies are generally considered too difficult to fix as well since they are so buried in the rendering pipeline that they become indistinguishable without the source code. Rendering issues in Nier are usually easier to identify and fix.
thehillissilent
Member
I ran it at 1080p initially on Ultra and got similar results. There were definitely dips to mid 50s so I said screw it and dropped the resolution and switched to m/kb controls. The game is barely utilizing the hardware. We probably won't get a patch for at least a couple of weeks, if not ever.
Shadowhaxor
Member
Pretty sure we will. They're already working on the PS4 Pro/Xbox One X. Hopefully there is something to address those PC performance issues.
Buggy Loop
Member
Fucking shame for the PC version. In fact, outside of Doom, all recent bethesda games have subpar performances on PC.
I will not even touch this game until its fixed.
I will not even touch this game until its fixed.
CrichtonKicks
Member
What's wrong with Prey? I came to it 2-3 weeks late but I didn't have any notable issues.
I've heard good things about Death of the Outsider regarding its port but I haven't played that one yet.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I thought about just getting it on PS4 and not worry about a shitty PC port but the FOV seems so narrow on consoles.
pretty done
Member
This game sounds like a disaster on all platforms. Can't say I'm bothered by the bomba tbh, devs need to step their shit up in such a competitive landscape.
The audio was fucking terrible if that counts. No positional tracking, random volume levels that seemed unrelated to distance, no real environmental effects.
I usually play on headphones but had to put it on speakers just to distance myself from the terrible audio.
Shadowhaxor
Member
I think the PC performance is being blown way out of proportion. As I stated, I haven't experienced even a 1/3rd of the issues.
Who cares about the people with xbox ones and one S who cant upgrade straight away right
That's not as impactful as long as you are sitting farther away.
CrichtonKicks
Member
But the PS4 version performs incredibly well?
Unless you have an older PC you will get better than PS4 visuals by locking the PC port to 30 fps and you can adjust the FOV.
Bethesda aren't much on community outreach. With DH2 it was pretty much Harvey Smith handling that stuff while Pete Hines maintained that everything was fine and people should just update drivers or whatever.
Since this is a Japanese developed game there isn't much hope for comms from the devs outside of John Johanas
MiamiWesker
Member
I'm not really good at perceiving minor graphical issues but I can generally tell 60 to 30fps, but probably not 60 to 50. I am playing on a 970 1080p and it seems to me to be at 60fps. Sure there are weird hiccups every once in a while but nothing jarring.
So this whole thing seems weird to me.
So this whole thing seems weird to me.
Mister Wolf
Member
I can't get a locked 60 with my gtx 1080 on high but I enjoy the game so much I'm not gonna cry about it or wait for a patch. I love the evil within series especially since dead space franchise died.
But a lot of people are. People who have an idea of what performance they should be getting in TEW2 with their respective hardware. Even user Paragon who seems to test CPU's for the thrill of it agrees that there's something iffy going on.
KillerMan91
Member
?. Base PS4 version is very competent. 1080p, looks great and has only some very minor framerate drops.
I got to support this, that XBO version is bad and TGWorks should feel bad.
base PS4 is the only decent version, out of three.
it's more of a stretch to say things are fine everywhere than to say things are doomed everywhere.
Wouldn't be the first game to have better performance with older drivers. Anyone else tested it before updating?
plagiarize
Banned
So, I'm still going to wait for now, but looks like Xbox One X is the version for me to get then. Hopefully it'll be HDR on Xbox One X... my current PC can't do HDR.
pretty done
Member
My PS4 Pro only runs the game at 1080p/30. That's pretty bad for a PS4 Pro.
50 hz/ 50 fps locked perfect frametimes without stutters even opening doors or moving between zones at 2304x1296 resolution.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=252160745
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Like almost always, PC version is still far better than console versions.
GameAddict411
Member
It's mostly fine at 30fps but I still get those spikes. As I said, even just sitting at the pause menu, you can see them appear on the frame-time graph.
CPU and GPU usage are all very low, no background processes interfering and game is running from an SSD. It's baffling as I'd rather play it on the PC.
Tried it and it didn't solve it for me.
I heard the input lag with the in game 30 FPS lock is pretty bad. Is it that true? I also would like to note that with my Core i7 7700HQ and GTX 1060 6GB I don't notice any stutter and it usually hangs around the 50 FPS range on high settings and 1080p. So the skips I noticed in the video are 100% absent on my system. I am loading the game from an nvme SSD though.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Someone in the PC thread tried it with old drivers but still got micro-stutter. I have no idea what causes the stutter on some systems and not on others when the hardware is so similar.
That's fine but given the that vanilla PS4s vastly outnumber Pros its disingenuous to imply that the game is a disaster on all platforms.
Especially when there are examples of games actually made worse than base on the Pro like FFXV which was stuck with awful frame pacing for several months.
But you can lock the PC version to 30 fps so its still at parity with PS4 and is better if you consider FOV adjustments and/or other visual upgrades.
Constantly fluctuating between 30-50 FPS on PC or a stable 30 on console, I'd take the console
Of course, it's too late for me, as you can't refund CD keys purchases
Oh, bummer.
The in-game lock doesn't work? Make sure to set it at 30, and not half your display's refresh rate.
Thanks man, I'll give this a shot! Really hoping it corrects the issue for me as well.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Yeah not sure why but the display rate limiters seem to be broken. If I set to display limit I get micro-stutter but if I set to 60 then it's sutter free.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I don't play on PC to play at 30fps. I'm skipping this until it is on deep, deep discount.