vasametropolis
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I don't think it'll happen, but I signed it anyways.
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Sega PC ports campaign continues with petition (Vanquish, Bayonetta, VF5)
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ColonelColon
Member
All of these links should be edited into the OP.
edit: nvm, just noticed that a moderator must have removed all but one of the Reddit posts.
TaroYamada
Member
We're working on that aspect, not sure what's up. The posts were well within the rules of those subreddits.
edit: reached out to joystiq.
I picked up Rising day one, but Sega is an outsider on that deal.
Happy to be apart of the first Platinum and Metal Gear game on Steam. Hope to have many more of both in the future.
Plus its one if the best games of last year.
Exactly, lets Sega know exactly what we want rather than flailing in the dark.
Konami and Capcom have really surprised me latley. Hit the nail on the head with MGR and RE4 respectively.
MrCunningham
Member
1,790 signatures, the petition has grown quite a bit since I last looked at it.
Yeah, but it is still a Platinum game, and if that one sells well on Steam, maybe Sega will look at Bayonetta, Vanquish, Anarchy Reigns or even Mad World. It could be a win for both companies. Platinum would get a lot more exposure and Sega could make some money on Steam.
Speaking of Sega PC ports, this thread made me pull out Daytona USA Deluxe and Sega Rally Championship 95 for Windows 95, just for laughs. I still have the discs for both these games. Though I also had the PC port of Panzer Dragoon, Virtua Cop and Virtua Fighter 2 as well, but I lost those years ago. First of all, both these games were a pain in the ass to install from the disc, I actually used Wine in my Linux Mint partition with Windows 95 comparability just to get either of these games to install. Once they were installed, I copied the directories over to my Windows 7 partition.
Both games actually do work on Windows 7, but Sega Rally suffers from some weird framerate fluctuation that makes it unplayable, it seems to hover between 30FPS and 37FPS when I look at it on fraps. The framerate judders so badly, that it makes the game unplayable, even on an i5 2500K. The game's max resolution is 640x480 at 16bit colour mode, and I can't switch to windowed mode unless I set my desktop to 16bit colour. On my screen these sreen shots were stretched to a horrible 16:9 aspect ratio:
My Logitech f310 gamepad actually works though, which was surprising to me, and the game music works too. But you need to have a CD in the drive for that.
Daytona USA Deluxe on the other hand does fare a little better. The game has a software rendering mode as well as a Direct3D mode.The framerate in software rendering is oddly stuck at 29FPS and never drops or goes over that number.
Playing the game in Direct3D mode adds filtering, perspective correction and a fox effect that you can control via a slider. Oddly when in Direct 3D the framerate is capped at 25FPS and never drops under or goes over it. It's quite strange. The games max resolution is still 640x480 at 16bit colour., this goes for both modes.
The game is actually playable at both framerates though, as they are consistent, but it's still sub 30. Gawd damn!
I would love to see the 360 XBLA port of Daytona USA get a release on PC, but I doubt it will ever happen with the Daytona license. But I wouldn;t mind it if they released the game on PC under the Sega Classic Racing title.
Yeah, but it is still a Platinum game, and if that one sells well on Steam, maybe Sega will look at Bayonetta, Vanquish, Anarchy Reigns or even Mad World. It could be a win for both companies. Platinum would get a lot more exposure and Sega could make some money on Steam.
Speaking of Sega PC ports, this thread made me pull out Daytona USA Deluxe and Sega Rally Championship 95 for Windows 95, just for laughs. I still have the discs for both these games. Though I also had the PC port of Panzer Dragoon, Virtua Cop and Virtua Fighter 2 as well, but I lost those years ago. First of all, both these games were a pain in the ass to install from the disc, I actually used Wine in my Linux Mint partition with Windows 95 comparability just to get either of these games to install. Once they were installed, I copied the directories over to my Windows 7 partition.
Both games actually do work on Windows 7, but Sega Rally suffers from some weird framerate fluctuation that makes it unplayable, it seems to hover between 30FPS and 37FPS when I look at it on fraps. The framerate judders so badly, that it makes the game unplayable, even on an i5 2500K. The game's max resolution is 640x480 at 16bit colour mode, and I can't switch to windowed mode unless I set my desktop to 16bit colour. On my screen these sreen shots were stretched to a horrible 16:9 aspect ratio:
My Logitech f310 gamepad actually works though, which was surprising to me, and the game music works too. But you need to have a CD in the drive for that.
Daytona USA Deluxe on the other hand does fare a little better. The game has a software rendering mode as well as a Direct3D mode.The framerate in software rendering is oddly stuck at 29FPS and never drops or goes over that number.
Playing the game in Direct3D mode adds filtering, perspective correction and a fox effect that you can control via a slider. Oddly when in Direct 3D the framerate is capped at 25FPS and never drops under or goes over it. It's quite strange. The games max resolution is still 640x480 at 16bit colour., this goes for both modes.
The game is actually playable at both framerates though, as they are consistent, but it's still sub 30. Gawd damn!
I would love to see the 360 XBLA port of Daytona USA get a release on PC, but I doubt it will ever happen with the Daytona license. But I wouldn;t mind it if they released the game on PC under the Sega Classic Racing title.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Oh I know. It's just similar to the other Plat games in their backlog.
TaroYamada
Member
1800 signatures, unfortunately it appears whatever mod at reddit caught onto the r/steam post. It's been removed and it was our most successful reddit post, truly unfortunate.
What a travesty.
Complete joke. Reddit had spoken unanimously in favor of the ports. One power-drunk mod with an agenda changed that.
TaroYamada
Member
You and I can speak tomorrow about our next course of action, better to discuss such a matter in IM. It's definitely not good and it's upsetting because we were well within the rules.
On a slightly brighter note, VirtuaFighter.com gave us the front page coverage they promised.
KingpinZero
Member
1,790 signatures, the petition has grown quite a bit since I last looked at it.
Yeah, but it is still a Platinum game, and if that one sells well on Steam, maybe Sega will look at Bayonetta, Vanquish, Anarchy Reigns or even Mad World. It could be a win for both companies. Platinum would get a lot more exposure and Sega could make some money on Steam.
Speaking of Sega PC ports, this thread made me pull out Daytona USA Deluxe and Sega Rally Championship 95 for Windows 95, just for laughs. I still have the discs for both these games. Though I also had the PC port of Panzer Dragoon, Virtua Cop and Virtua Fighter 2 as well, but I lost those years ago. First of all, both these games were a pain in the ass to install from the disc, I actually used Wine in my Linux Mint partition with Windows 95 comparability just to get either of these games to install. Once they were installed, I copied the directories over to my Windows 7 partition.
Both games actually do work on Windows 7, but Sega Rally suffers from some weird framerate fluctuation that makes it unplayable, it seems to hover between 30FPS and 37FPS when I look at it on fraps. The framerate judders so badly, that it makes the game unplayable, even on an i5 2500K. The game's max resolution is 640x480 at 16bit colour mode, and I can't switch to windowed mode unless I set my desktop to 16bit colour. On my screen these sreen shots were stretched to a horrible 16:9 aspect ratio:
My Logitech f310 gamepad actually works though, which was surprising to me, and the game music works too. But you need to have a CD in the drive for that.
Daytona USA Deluxe on the other hand does fare a little better. The game has a software rendering mode as well as a Direct3D mode.The framerate in software rendering is oddly stuck at 29FPS and never drops or goes over that number.
Playing the game in Direct3D mode adds filtering, perspective correction and a fox effect that you can control via a slider. Oddly when in Direct 3D the framerate is capped at 25FPS and never drops under or goes over it. It's quite strange. The games max resolution is still 640x480 at 16bit colour., this goes for both modes.
The game is actually playable at both framerates though, as they are consistent, but it's still sub 30. Gawd damn!
I would love to see the 360 XBLA port of Daytona USA get a release on PC, but I doubt it will ever happen with the Daytona license. But I wouldn;t mind it if they released the game on PC under the Sega Classic Racing title.
Sega model 2 emulator by elsemi got your back covered.
Pc ports were great but nowadays arcade versions are better, plus the xbl port is just the emulated arcade rom.
It's easy to setup and it's the real thing.
TaroYamada
Member
Yeah, the reddit situation is a blow but it doesn't make this effort a lost cause. 2000 was my goal earlier today and it's still doable.
TaroYamada
Member
To my understanding some mod takes issue with grief and I's campaign? but I'm not absolutely certain, Grief is in charge of the reddit effort. Regardless we were within the rules of most of the subreddits we posted in, except one. These reddit posts were highly upvoted and usually in the top 3 links on their respective subreddits, r/steam, before being pulled had ~410 upvotes.
Earlier we lost most of the original reddit postings, r/steam managed to remain up for sometime afterwards.
TaroYamada
Member
I'm not fully aware of that aspect but these are the reddit postings we had at one time:
In masterrace we were labeled "High Quality" and a mod even participated in the thread hours before the removal.
In masterrace we were labeled "High Quality" and a mod even participated in the thread hours before the removal.
Yeah, here the moderators for each subreddit:
r/Steam:
r/PCGaming
r/pcmasterrace
r/gaming
No real overlap, except for automoderator which is presumably just a bot. You makin' enemies high up the food chain, Grief?
I guess Grief could always message one of the mods of each subreddit and ask what happened to his thread.
r/Steam:
r/PCGaming
r/pcmasterrace
r/gaming
No real overlap, except for automoderator which is presumably just a bot. You makin' enemies high up the food chain, Grief?
I guess Grief could always message one of the mods of each subreddit and ask what happened to his thread.
TaroYamada
Member
I believe he began a dialog with some last night, we'll see where that gets us tomorrow morning (I'm PST most of you guys are already living in tomorrow, so later today for you folks, hopefully).
I was thinking that we could try and tweet Kamiya, Inaba, the other PG guys and developers of games we want to be ported about the petition, if they shows their support it could give the cause a boost, as far as audience goes, anyway.
Not just "do you want to port bayonetta to PC" because the answer would be "ask Sega", but something nicely written could be of some use.
Not just "do you want to port bayonetta to PC" because the answer would be "ask Sega", but something nicely written could be of some use.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Reddit's a fucking joke with their power hungry mods, it's a shame they have so much influence.
TaroYamada
Member
I think it's a great idea, me and grief both tweeted atsushi inaba. I would target Inaba explicitly, please tweet him!
We still gotta figure out what went down for sure, I'll try to wait to pass judgment for now unless you're right, then that'll be super lame.
I wish the petition would've included Valkyria Chronicles and Resonance of Fate, since the petition isn't even targeting one single game, but several ones. I'm probably sounding like a broken record, but I'm just sad that a small group of people decided on other people's behalf instead of including some form of choice or versatility or inclusion.
Should we agree on something to write? It should be one nice tweet, even if broken in two or three parts, but we should do this only once and try and get their support.
Ah okay, thank you for clearing that up.
It sounded more like the moderator (TGxPatriot) was mocking the campaign.
TaroYamada
Member
I think we should just use the hashtag #segapcports, link to this thread or directly to the petition, or both if you can fit it in the character limit. If you really want a unified message I'd love to hear some ideas, bounce em off me. If we go forward with a unified address towards atsushi I'll paste it in the cluttered OP.
By participation I largely meant he was there, he let it stand and it's odd that he did; had it been a violation it makes more sense he would have ended it there. It was within the rules judging by the sidebar so it should have stood.
MrCunningham
Member
Oh, I realize there are superior Model 2 emulators. But I thought it would be interesting to pull out some of these old ports I purchased nearly 15 years ago and try them on modern hardware. Both the above games are almost straight ports of the Saturn games, no where near arcade perfect.
All the down-votes probably took him by surprise and in a hissy fit he proceeded to close the thread.
Alex Donaldson, writer for VG247, has an account on GAF, but I don't remember his username, he wrote a 3 part story on NeoGAF. If someone knows his username I will gladly PM him about the campaign.
TaroYamada
Member
I'd love to help, I don't know but will ask around, just PM'd Angry Joe myself.
TaroYamada
Member
The ever helpful Steamchat gaf found his twitter, not exactly what you wanted but if you wait for him to get active there and flick him a tweet with links he may see it?
I was thinking about about a simple message, that should make clear that we are their fans, we play on PC and as such we'd love to see their games on the platform, so we started this campaign and if they agree with our idea we'd love a sign of support from them.
Some media attention!
http://www.incgamers.com/2014/01/sega-pc-ports-campaign-launches-petition
If we manage to get more sites front-paging the petition, it would be really awesome and helpful.
And about the whole "Nintendo may have the rights to the first Bayo" thing. It is getting ridiculous. SEGA owns the rights to EVERYTHING Bayonetta related. Sega did more Bayonetta related things than Nintendo even after the Bayo 2 reveal. They made an anime movie, they released the first game on PSN and they finally released that art book. So why people believe Nintendo has anything to do with Bayonetta 1 is beyond me. Sega just gave the publishing rights for Bayo 2 to Nintendo. That's all. Even (TW101 spoilers)
so I'm pretty sure sega completely owns Bayonetta IP. Even Bayo 2 is "© 2013 Nintendo © SEGA" so I guess Nintendo doesn't even own Bayo 2 rights completely. Just the publishing rights.
http://www.incgamers.com/2014/01/sega-pc-ports-campaign-launches-petition
If we manage to get more sites front-paging the petition, it would be really awesome and helpful.
And about the whole "Nintendo may have the rights to the first Bayo" thing. It is getting ridiculous. SEGA owns the rights to EVERYTHING Bayonetta related. Sega did more Bayonetta related things than Nintendo even after the Bayo 2 reveal. They made an anime movie, they released the first game on PSN and they finally released that art book. So why people believe Nintendo has anything to do with Bayonetta 1 is beyond me. Sega just gave the publishing rights for Bayo 2 to Nintendo. That's all. Even (TW101 spoilers)
for having Bayo, Jeanne and Rodin in TW101, Ninty had to get Sega's permission.
TaroYamada
Member
Sounds good to me, how about something like:
"Atsushi, since we enjoy Platinum's titles so much, please support our #SEGAPCports endeavor to grab SEGA's attention and increase their Japanese PC output, link to petition, link to neogaf (if it fits)"
This is the first non-sega site, to the OP.
Awesome, I'll send him a tweet. Thanks!
TaroYamada
Member
1900 sigs
Steamchat gaf says welcome, or at least I say they do.
Few updates, Neogaf user saj resubmitted to r/gaming via incgamer's story, the link is included in the OP but it's also here. Please go upvote it, maybe going through a decent sized press outlet recognized in metacritic rankings will provide some protection from the previous issues.
@Tronlight, I made a minor edit to my suggested tweet, reread it please
@thread, sig goal will be set in stone today, grief and I decided to wait for the first day to be over to make our decision. Discussion will take place whenever he comes on steam today.
Steamchat gaf says welcome, or at least I say they do.
Few updates, Neogaf user saj resubmitted to r/gaming via incgamer's story, the link is included in the OP but it's also here. Please go upvote it, maybe going through a decent sized press outlet recognized in metacritic rankings will provide some protection from the previous issues.
@Tronlight, I made a minor edit to my suggested tweet, reread it please
@thread, sig goal will be set in stone today, grief and I decided to wait for the first day to be over to make our decision. Discussion will take place whenever he comes on steam today.
It's because the mentioned games will be a lot cheaper to port and relatively easy to bring over, with MGR sales hopefully showing Sega it's worth it. We're appealing to Segas wallets as much as anything.
Those games were decided because it makes more sense, not because noone wants to see Valkyria Chronicles or Resonance Of Fate on PC.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Dacwak is a gaffer and mod of r/gaming, why not ask him?
TaroYamada
Member
Username search brings up no users by that name, profile link? I'll PM him if you have it.
brotkasten
Member
Do you know his GAF username? It's certainly not Dacwak, according to the search.
This thread is up now courtesy of Sajjaja, I don't believe this will be taken down as it is based on a news story.
YianGaruga
Banned
ashecitism
Member
probably him? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=32002
TaroYamada
Member
homepage reddit, he fits the bill it seems. PMing.
edit; done, and god damn guys, we came super close to 2k in 24 hours, just passed the mark 10 minutes ago but we got to about 1950 and that's close enough for me
