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PS3 Firware update (2.10) coming tomorrow - Blu-Ray 1.1 support! Divx! splooooge

T

Tntnnbltn

Member
Metalmurphy said:
Any word on stealth updates?
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Plenty if you read the Firmware release thread. :p

Seriously though,
- New music visualiser
- Animated video thumbnails now work in albums
- Blue internet browser background is now same colour as XMB background
- A couple people have said that the internet browser is quicker and more responsive

[Disclaimer: Haven't installed it myself yet, so I'm going on what other people have said]
 
M

Metalmurphy

Member
Tntnnbltn said:
Plenty if you read the Firmware release thread. :p

Seriously though,
- New music visualiser
- Animated video thumbnails now work in albums
- Blue internet browser is now same colour as XMB background
- A couple people have said that the internet browser is quicker and more responsive

[Disclaimer: Haven't installed it myself yet, so I'm going on what other people have said]
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Ahh didn't notice there was another thread. Thanks ;)
 
Autofokus

Autofokus

Member
@Schrade

works:

Code: 
General #0
Format               : AVI
Format/Info          : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family        : RIFF
File size            : 195 MiB
PlayTime             : 19mn 20s
Bit rate             : 1407 Kbps
StreamSize           : 2.91 MiB
Writing application  : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library      : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video #0
Codec                : XviD
Codec/Family         : MPEG-4
Codec/Info           : XviD project
Codec profile        : Simple Profile/Level 3
Codec settings/Packe : No
Codec settings/BVOP  : No
Codec settings/QPel  : No
Codec settings/GMC   : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Default
PlayTime             : 19mn 20s
Bit rate             : 1116 Kbps
Width                : 512 pixels
Height               : 384 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate           : 25.000 fps
Resolution           : 8 bits
Chroma               : 4:2:0
Interlacement        : Progressive
StreamSize           : 155 MiB

Audio #0
Codec                : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile        : Joint stereo
PlayTime             : 19mn 20s
Bit rate             : 133 Kbps
Bit rate mode        : VBR
Channel(s)           : 2 channels
Sampling rate        : 48 KHz
Resolution           : 16 bits
StreamSize           : 18.4 MiB
Writing library      : LAME3.90.
Encoding settings    : ABR

Audio #1
Codec                : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile        : Joint stereo
PlayTime             : 19mn 20s
Bit rate             : 134 Kbps
Bit rate mode        : VBR
Channel(s)           : 2 channels
Sampling rate        : 48 KHz
Resolution           : 16 bits
StreamSize           : 18.5 MiB
Writing library      : LAME3.90.
Encoding settings    : ABR

Code: 
General #0
Format/Info          : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family        : RIFF
File size            : 250 MiB
PlayTime             : 24mn 29s
Bit rate             : 1426 Kbps
StreamSize           : 1.94 MiB
Writing application  : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library      : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video #0
Codec                : XviD
Codec/Family         : MPEG-4
Codec/Info           : XviD project
Codec profile        : Streaming Video Profile/Level 1
Codec settings/Packe : Yes
Codec settings/BVOP  : Yes
Codec settings/QPel  : No
Codec settings/GMC   : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Default
PlayTime             : 24mn 29s
Bit rate             : 1255 Kbps
Width                : 1024 pixels
Height               : 576 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate           : 25.000 fps
Resolution           : 8 bits
Chroma               : 4:2:0
Interlacement        : Progressive
StreamSize           : 220 MiB
BitRate_Nominal      : 1237695.900

Audio #0
Codec                : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile        : Joint stereo
PlayTime             : 24mn 29s
Bit rate             : 160 Kbps
Bit rate mode        : CBR
Channel(s)           : 2 channels
Sampling rate        : 44.1 KHz
Resolution           : 16 bits
StreamSize           : 28.0 MiB
Writing library      : Lame 3.98 (alpha)

refused to play:

Code: 
General #0
Format               : AVI
Format/Info          : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family        : RIFF
File size            : 175 MiB
PlayTime             : 20mn 10s
Bit rate             : 1212 Kbps
StreamSize           : 1.87 MiB
Writing application  : VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release)
Writing library      : VirtualDubMod build 2178/release

Video #0
Codec                : XviD
Codec/Family         : MPEG-4
Codec/Info           : XviD project
Codec profile        : Streaming Video Profile/Level 1
Codec settings/Packe : No
Codec settings/BVOP  : Yes
Codec settings/QPel  : No
Codec settings/GMC   : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Custom
PlayTime             : 20mn 10s
Bit rate             : 1090 Kbps
Width                : 640 pixels
Height               : 480 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate           : 25.000 fps
Resolution           : 8 bits
Chroma               : 4:2:0
Interlacement        : Progressive
StreamSize           : 157 MiB
BitRate_Nominal      : 1077656.020

Audio #0
Codec                : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile        : Joint stereo
PlayTime             : 20mn 10s
Bit rate             : 109 Kbps
Bit rate mode        : VBR
Channel(s)           : 2 channels
Sampling rate        : 48 KHz
Resolution           : 16 bits
StreamSize           : 15.7 MiB
Writing library      : LAME3.97 
Encoding settings    : ABR
 
D

Danj

Member
Autofokus said:
@Schrade

works:

(bunch of technical info snipped)
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Judging from that, the only obvious thing that leaps out is the fact that the non working one has a custom matrix.
 
Schrade

Schrade

Member
Autofokus said:
@Schrade

refused to play:

Code: 
General #0
Format               : AVI
Format/Info          : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family        : RIFF
File size            : 175 MiB
PlayTime             : 20mn 10s
Bit rate             : 1212 Kbps
StreamSize           : 1.87 MiB
Writing application  : VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release)
Writing library      : VirtualDubMod build 2178/release

Video #0
Codec                : XviD
Codec/Family         : MPEG-4
Codec/Info           : XviD project
Codec profile        : Streaming Video Profile/Level 1
Codec settings/Packe : No
Codec settings/BVOP  : Yes
Codec settings/QPel  : No
Codec settings/GMC   : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Custom
PlayTime             : 20mn 10s
Bit rate             : 1090 Kbps
Width                : 640 pixels
Height               : 480 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate           : 25.000 fps
Resolution           : 8 bits
Chroma               : 4:2:0
Interlacement        : Progressive
StreamSize           : 157 MiB
BitRate_Nominal      : 1077656.020

Audio #0
Codec                : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile        : Joint stereo
PlayTime             : 20mn 10s
Bit rate             : 109 Kbps
Bit rate mode        : VBR
Channel(s)           : 2 channels
Sampling rate        : 48 KHz
Resolution           : 16 bits
StreamSize           : 15.7 MiB
Writing library      : LAME3.97 
Encoding settings    : ABR
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This is what jumps out at me as being different from the other 2. So XviDs encoded with a custom matrix might be the ones that won't play.

Edit: Bah. Didn't even see the above poster's comments before I posted :-/ Sorry! Been a sleepless night.
 
Schrade

Schrade

Member
deepbrown said:
So the avi's i made using GordonKnot don't work...are they Xvids then? I want them to work :(
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Yeah, they're most likely encoded using XviD. And yeah, unfortunately GordianKnot uses custom matrixes to do the encoding (gives a better encode, but less compatible)

Hopefully Sony will fix this as it's annoying.

So it appears that as long as you have "Default" in that Matrix section the .avi should play OK.
 
M

McLovin

Member
thanks I'll check it out. Media player is just terrible. I mean 75% of the stuff it that showed up on my ps3 where deleted a long time ago. And the few movies that work stop streaming about 10 seconds in.
 
C

Chris R

Member
What settings should I use in Handbrake for encoding DVDs and TV episodes? Going to rip the first episode of lost over and try that... but want to get a good encode but not end up with a huge file.
 
J

Jide

Member
McLovin said:
thanks I'll check it out. Media player is just terrible. I mean 75% of the stuff it that showed up on my ps3 where deleted a long time ago. And the few movies that work stop streaming about 10 seconds in.
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I think there's an option to "disable show deleted media". Or something
But it works fine for me, I was surprised that the shares came up.
 
davepoobond

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
the earth visualization is kinda creepy to me...

but it looks nice...


woulda been cooler if something were actually happening on the earth that reacted to the music you were playing like normal visualizations
 
G

Gokurakumaru

Banned
_leech_ said:
Hope this update includes some backward compatibility fixes. I needs my Fire Pro!
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Don't know about Fire Pro, but BC was updated in this release. Silent Hill 2 Director's Cut finally works (with the occasional graphical glitch). And my most anticipated update, 7 Blades now runs instead of saying it's not supported.

So yeah, I was relieved to find that the updates are still happening in spite of the 40GB (at least for the moment). Now apart from the odd glitch and Soul Calibur 3 still looking like it's running at a choppy framerate everything I care about is supported.

:D
 
S

skrew

Banned
Bearillusion said:
Noob time.

Can I copy my dvds (legit retail version) to my PC and then stream them to my ps3? If so what software do I need? Thanks
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don't use xvid if you are ripping dvds, there should be plenty of software to rip it to mp4

tversity for streaming
 
C

CrushDance

Banned
SRG01 said:
Check it with the Gspot codec identifier and see if it's the correct length.
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Hm?

Gspot said that the file is fine. Yet the PS3 is only playing 11 seconds of the Naruto episode. And only 6 seconds of the Bleach on :S

Edit: When I stream it from Tversity it works fine, but when I put it on the flash drive it says only 11 seconds for 171mb file...wtf.
 
F

Fusebox

Banned
Maybe the audio or video is VBR and the PS3 is freaking out trying to work length out from the bitrate, whereas TVersity does it first and tells the PS3?
 
C

CrushDance

Banned
Fusebox said:
Maybe the audio or video is VBR and the PS3 is freaking out trying to work length out from the bitrate, whereas TVersity does it first and tells the PS3?
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I have no idea :p

General #0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\Guest2\Desktop\[DB]_Naruto_Shippuuden_039.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 170 MiB
PlayTime : 23mn 4s
Bit rate : 1030 Kbps
Writing application : Windows Movie Maker 2.1

Video #0
Codec : XviD
Codec/Family : MPEG-4
Codec/Info : XviD project
Codec settings/Packe : No
Codec settings/BVOP : Yes
Codec settings/QPel : No
Codec settings/GMC : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Default
PlayTime : 23mn 4s
Bit rate : 881 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Interlacement : Progressive

Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-1/2 L3
Codec/Family : MPEG-1
Codec/Info : MPEG-1 or 2 layer 3
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Title : final
Coherency/PlayTime : 1384440
Click to expand...
 
F

Fusebox

Banned
Doesn't look like it. Maybe you pulled your flash drive out too early when transferring the files? Try playing the files from your PC, directly from the flash drive and check they're complete.
 
W

watership

Member
CrushDance said:
Hm?

Gspot said that the file is fine. Yet the PS3 is only playing 11 seconds of the Naruto episode. And only 6 seconds of the Bleach on :S

Edit: When I stream it from Tversity it works fine, but when I put it on the flash drive it says only 11 seconds for 171mb file...wtf.
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Naruto and Bleach. Those xvids are touchy. My Divx Certified dvd player from Phillips wouldn't play 1 in 10 Naruto eps, and the Bleach ones just plain refused to play. They're encoded... differently. The 360 plays them, but sometimes has jitters at the start of the playback for about 5 seconds.
 
C

CrushDance

Banned
Yup I played them on my PC from the flash drive and they worked fine. What I noticed though is that Dattebayo(DB) uses windows movie maker 2.1 while other groups use VirtualDub. That's the only difference I can see.

Because One Piece worked flawlessly. *tears*
 
Schrade

Schrade

Member
CrushDance said:
I have no idea :p
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Your MediaInfo output says that the .avi was output via Windows Movie Maker. I was not aware that Windows Movie Maker can output AVI. I thought it was just WMV only. Maybe you should try remuxing the streams together.

This also might work for anyone else that is having problems with files that only play back a few seconds.

Download AVI-Mux GUI: http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/

Drag and drop the .avi file into the area at the top of the AVI-Mux window then click on the "generate data source from files" button:

739v9jl.jpg


This will analyze the file and you'll be able to see what's inside of it. You can then click on the "start" button and save out the AVI. It'll pull the data from the original one and then write it out in a properly structured .avi file. It does no reencoding of the data so it's quick.

6x92v51.jpg



Incidentally, you can also use AVI-Mux GUI to join together AVIs. You just drag and drop them into the window at the top then use CONTROL CLICK to select the ones you want to join and press the "generate data source from files" button and then save it out. This is useful to join those movies that are split to 700 meg pieces and they have 2 pieces to fit on CDs. Just join them together into one big 1.4 gig file.
 
T

Thunderbear

Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
rc213 said:
=\ That was helpful...

Renaming the extension from .divx to .avi as suggested on some googled links didn't work.
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If it's a DivX file that's not 3.11 it should play, and yeah they need to be called .avi.
 
R

rc213

Member
Thunderbear said:
If it's a DivX file that's not 3.11 it should play, and yeah they need to be called .avi.
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Thanks, According to mediainfo it's actually a Xvid, Downloaded it was named *.divx.

Video #0
Count : 76
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 0
Codec : XVID
Codec : XviD
Codec/Family : MPEG-4
Codec/Info : XviD project
Codec/Url : http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml
Codec/CC : XVID
Codec profile : Streaming Video Profile/Level 1
Codec settings : BVOP / Custom Matrix
Codec settings/Packe : No
Codec settings/BVOP : Yes
Codec settings/QPel : No
Codec settings/GMC : 0
Codec settings/GMC : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Custom
PlayTime : 3863363
PlayTime : 1h 4mn
PlayTime : 1h 4mn 23s 363ms
PlayTime : 1h 4mn
PlayTime : 01:04:23.363
Bit rate : 1399668
Bit rate : 1400 Kbps
Width : 608
Width : 608 pixels
Height : 352
Height : 352 pixels
Pixel Aspect Ratio : 1.000
Display Aspect ratio : 1.727
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
FrameCount : 92628
Resolution : 8
Resolution : 8 bits
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : PPF
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.271
StreamSize : 675928279
StreamSize : 645 MiB
StreamSize : 645 MiB
StreamSize : 645 MiB
StreamSize : 645 MiB
StreamSize : 644.6 MiB
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Custom Matrix is what is preventing the PS3 from playing. =(

Check for Custom Matrix, Qpel, Gmc... this features aren't copatible with actual firmware
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Zoe

Zoe

Member
So what are you supposed to do with xvids that aren't working? Do they need to be run through something like VirtualDub?
 
MidgarBlowedUp

MidgarBlowedUp

Member
Zoe said:
So what are you supposed to do with xvids that aren't working? Do they need to be run through something like VirtualDub?
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RAD Video Tools might also fix them. I always used it when making videos for my PS2.
 
karasu

karasu

Member
Thunderbear said:
If it's a DivX file that's not 3.11 it should play, and yeah they need to be called .avi.
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I'm playing .divx files just fine. Twenty-three of them to be exact.
 
R

rc213

Member
karasu said:
I'm playing .divx files just fine. Twenty-three of them to be exact.
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Yeah, It turns out that it should have played fine but it has a custom matrix which the PS3 Divx implementation doesn't support. Basically and Divx/Xvid with Custom Matrix, Qpel, Gmc enabled will need to be run through a encoder to remove it before it will play. Luckily it's the only video other than a few pr0n clips that have refused to play so far. :D
 
Schrade

Schrade

Member
Zoe said:
So what are you supposed to do with xvids that aren't working? Do they need to be run through something like VirtualDub?
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For XviDs with Custom Matrixes, you'd have to reencode them.

For DivX/XviDs with packed bitstreams you'd have to unpack them. A tool for that has already been mentioned in the thread I believe (or was it the other firmware thread? I forget...). Avidemux also can unpack bitstreams.
 
Schrade

Schrade

Member
rc213 said:
I have a couple movies with packed bitstreams according to MPEG4Modifier and they play fine on the PS3. =\
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Huh. Well, I guess I should have tested that. I was just repeating what someone else had said. I'll have to try it out.

I've tested the Custom matrix thing myself though. None that I have play if they have Custom Matrixes.
 
B

BeEatNU

WORLDSTAAAAAAR
rc213 said:
=\ That was helpful...

Renaming the extension from .divx to .avi as suggested on some googled links didn't work.
Click to expand...

sorry, its just that questions been answered a good hand full of times on this thread.
 
Ephemeris

Ephemeris

Member
CrushDance said:
Hm?

Gspot said that the file is fine. Yet the PS3 is only playing 11 seconds of the Naruto episode. And only 6 seconds of the Bleach on :S

Edit: When I stream it from Tversity it works fine, but when I put it on the flash drive it says only 11 seconds for 171mb file...wtf.
Click to expand...


It's the way the subbers (DB, I presume?) encode the Naruto/bleach Eps. Had the same issue on my Zen player.


Oops. Already replied.
 
Erebus

Erebus

Member
Sorry for bringing this thread back from the dead but can someone PM the settings required so that PS3 can output audio from both HDMI and Optical out?

I'm sure someone was talking about that in the previous pages.
 
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