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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs

I'll force myself to pick up a secondary to Abby on the weekends but I am for sure keeping this guy as my main. Just gotta get into him and get better at opening people up. I haven't landed many CCs
 

Mizerman

Member
Ok so I know that I suck at this game and I totally dropped the combo at the end of this clip (it was supposed to be EX Giant Flip into HP Abigail Punch but my nervous fingers missed a step) but god DAMN am I proud of this magic pixel comeback. Sure it was entirely cuz this Ken apparently didn't know that his wheel kick hits low, but still!

If people put up with Zombegoast's zombeboasts then I can get away with doing this one time right?

That's good. That's damn good.
 

joe2187

Banned
I never play shotos.....but after playing akuma for a while....i kind of see why people like him

Though Akuma was always my third character in UMVC3 because of reasons.
 

vg260

Member
The colors cost too much, I agree (especially since the more expensive colors are just arbitrarily more) but they've always come with 10 colors, so I don't mind the fm extra ones.

Didn't they just add extra colors for dlc outfits recently?

Fwiw the last few sets of SF4 costumes came with 20 colors. That was pretty great.
 
Fwiw the last few sets of SF4 costumes came with 20 colors. That was pretty great.

I have still the Halloween costume set for USF4 sitting in my wishlist and looking at the price for 44 costumes i only can think how the hell does this only get you 5 costumes in SF5.
 

joe2187

Banned
I have still the Halloween costume set for USF4 sitting in my wishlist and looking at the price for 44 costumes i only can think how the hell does this only get you 5 costumes in SF5.

One is a completed game and bundles priced accorddingly to the time since it's release.

The other is a new game, where the characters and costumes are still coming out.
 
Fwiw the last few sets of SF4 costumes came with 20 colors. That was pretty great.

I think it was like $20+ for whatever new costume pack for all the characters and that was in a pack of 10 and later 20,

Now it's $5 CAD per character that comes with 10 colours then I have to pay FM to unlock more colours lol

capcom pls
 

Marvel

could never
I snagged all the USF4 costumes during a psn pricing error. Think I paid like 60p or just under £2 or some shit lol.

GAF with the heads up.
 
Just ran into a Bison using this color (15). First time seeing it, and it is amazing:
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I'm still trying to figure out how the hell Gief beats Rashid. In the right player he can zone like Guile between tornado+eagle spike/cr.HK and he has several moves that flip him back just out of SPD reversal range. And light mixer is like plus on block.

Really stumped with this one.
 
Abigail has serious issues, from what I was playing last night. Because he has slow buttons and a horrible walk speed, most matches revolve around the opponent standing outside his button zone. Unlike Birdie, who plays similarly, his total lack of wakeup or space control that isn't normal based makes him pretty much designed for the specific use of Infexious, or similar character specialists.

When my opponent gets in close, it seems like they can attack non-stop because of Abigails slow buttons. I just cant get them off me. His 6f cr jab seems so useless so often. I probably need to learn to parry or use the ex rapid uppercuts.
 
When my opponent gets in close, it seems like they can attack non-stop because of Abigails slow buttons. I just cant get them off me. His 6f cr jab seems so useless so often. I probably need to learn to parry or use the ex rapid uppercuts.
What world am I in? Wake up Cr.jab is super fast in my games.
 
I thought I'd be a hipster by playing Abigail. Little did I know everyone would. The youtube dislikes gave me the wrong impression
Raw fucking power goes a long way to appeal to people. It's not like Rufus's "wtf is this" first impression, it's "shit you know this guy hits hard."

::edit::
it's bullshit that there are characters bigger than gief
It's not so much that he's bigger (I love Hugo), it's that SPD is reduced to like 100% read since you can't punish his long whiffs like other characters. 🤣

I'm sure when I get muscle memory that you need to block high and low on his flip kick it'll help, but Abigail seems like a brutal matchup for Zangief like I suspected.
 

kikiribu

Member
it's bullshit that there are characters bigger than gief

Hugo, FANG, Q are all taller than Gief, to name a few. Gief wasn't designed to be the tallest character in Street Fighter.

Or maybe they're the same height, idk, but Hugo is definitely way taller than him. So is T.Hawk.
 

Zackat

Member
Doesn't birdie have better buttons and safer specials? I've never played birdie outside of trials and survival so might be talking outta my ass

I still think birdies cr.mp is one of the best buttons in the game. his st.mk is also really good, at least when I played him. Idk if they changed it in s2 or not
 
I still think birdies cr.mp is one of the best buttons in the game. his st.mk is also really good, at least when I played him. Idk if they changed it in s2 or not

st.mk is slower, and cr.mp is worse than S1 but still slightly better than S2.
Doesn't birdie have better buttons and safer specials? I've never played birdie outside of trials and survival so might be talking outta my ass
Not really. His specials are only safer in V-Trigger and specifically bullhead. Bullhorn, command grab, chain are all just as punishable as they always are.

If you want a character with long limbs that can play keepaway with aggressive characters or solid footsies with other characters, Abigail is arguably the better choice.
You don't see Abigail throwing cans on the ground with such skill. He makes them roll straight forward every single time.
THis is true. Btw, I'm glad to see you in this thread again!
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
If you want a character with long limbs that can play keepaway with aggressive characters or solid footsies with other characters, Abigail is arguably the better choice.

Birdie has an easier time keeping opponents out. Screen pollution via V-Skill, better AA, safe(ish) sweep from long range, j.HK which comes out fast and covers a great amount of distance, fast and special cancellable st.MP, etc. He has more options against characters who are good at zoning, too, like the chains, the dolphin dive, the slide, etc.

Comparatively, Abigail needs to go in more to get things going (there are certain MUs where he doesn't need to, like against Cammy or Zangief). And, due to his size and lack of mobility, there's risk associated with doing so. Hence his health, and cr.HK and run options.

It's why Birdie vs. Laura is a good MU for Birdie but, for now, Abigail might have trouble against Laura.
 
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