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Not · Jul 28, 2017

I'm taking marital counseling and filled out a psychological assessment as an introduction. Tried to be as honest as possible for the sake of it. I wasn't in a great place emotionally when I took the test, but apparently the test can figure that out (!) based on my answers and still determine stable factors that cause me to occasionally feel depressed and worthless.

I always thought passive aggressiveness simply referred to being scared to confront people about what you really want, but it's actually broad enough to mean that you just want to do whatever you want and actively resent any other person who might impede that. Jesus Christ.

I tested off the charts. Fucking 113/100. Stars all across the page. Looked like this:

Dysthymia: **************

Bipolar: *****

PAPD: *********************************************************************************************************************************

Narcissism: *******

Debasement: ************************

I think I owe roommate GAF an apology.

Here's another excerpt. Anything familiar?

The behavior of this man is typified by a quiet, edgy, and dependent way of relating to others. Notable are his marked deficit in social interest, his frequent eccentricities, ideas of reference, occasional magical thinking, and depersonalization anxieties. His intensely introversive pattern coexists with a lack of energy, deficient social initiative, and minimal activity-seeking behavior.

Self-belittling, he prefers the self-image of a weak and ineffectual person.

His uneventful life is composed of extended periods of solitude that are characterized by feelings of emptiness. ... Displaying a pervasive inadequacy in most areas, he tends to follow a meaningless, ineffectual, idle life pattern that is marked by his characteristic tendency to remain on the periphery of social activities.

Burn.

Not all of this is accurate, but holy shit does it lay some of it out. I guess now I can work on fixing it. Maybe I should go out more often and strike a conversation with someone. I never have trouble communicating or interacting with people, I just don't seek it out. I like hanging out with tons of people (especially if I'm the center of attention), but I think it's more about achieving a feeling of acceptance and belonging than actually enjoying other people's company.

Are any blossoming therapists reading this? Is passive aggressive disorder one of the more common afflictions out there? Does it maybe have to do with American culture? Are there a lot of people out there with this?

Red Liquorice · Jul 28, 2017

Occasional magical thinking?

The Albatross · Jul 28, 2017

"I'd feel worse for her, though, if she didn't score 97/100 for the same thing."

There's your passive aggressiveness in action.

Sorry about the diagnosis but it's the first step to improving yourself, good luck.

Nohar · Jul 28, 2017

Depending on how you were raised and what you went through life, I am not surprised that some/many of us turn to passive-aggressiveness. Although I didn't know about the self-loathing aspect.

Not · Jul 28, 2017

Red Liquorice said:
Occasional magical thinking?

That stumped me too. Maybe it means I'm not grounded in reality.

The Albatross said:
"I'd feel worse for her, though, if she didn't score 97/100 for the same thing."

There's your passive aggressiveness in action.

It was supposed to be a joke!! I related to her more. Dammit.

BigDes · Jul 28, 2017

OP IS A WIZARD!!

Chuckie · Jul 28, 2017

Not said:
It was supposed to be a joke!! I related to her more. Dammit.

A very passive aggressive joke!

I laughed though

Wafflecakes · Jul 28, 2017

My mother was incredibly passive aggressive, though it has eased a bit with age.

I know I have some of that in me, though I am more on the passive side in general.

Not · Jul 28, 2017

I'm not actually passive-aggressive in the most commonly-worded sense. I'm very upfront with people about how I think and feel, even if it causes confrontation.

Apparently "passive aggressive" in psychological terms refers to the blanket tendency that I have now bolded in the OP

Rayis · Jul 28, 2017

I'm sorry OP but I laughed at the diagnosis, mostly because it also describes a lot of my own behavior, sending virtual hugs your way though, hopefully you'll be able to improve your condition.

Oxn · Jul 28, 2017

Not said:
I'm taking marital counseling and filled out a psychological assessment as an introduction. Tried to be as honest as possible for the sake of it. I wasn't in a great place emotionally when I took the test, but apparently the test can figure that out (!) based on my answers and still determine stable factors that cause me to occasionally feel depressed and worthless.

I always thought passive aggressiveness simply referred to being scared to confront people about what you really want, but it's actually broad enough to mean that you just want to do whatever you want and actively resent any other person who might impede that. Jesus Christ.

I tested off the charts. Fucking 113/100. Stars all across the page. Looked like this:

Dysthymia: **************

Bipolar: *****

PAPD: *********************************************************************************************************************************

Narcissism: *******

Debasement: ************************

I think I owe roommate GAF an apology.

Here's another excerpt. Anything familiar?

Burn.

Not all of this is accurate, but holy shit does it lay some of it out. I guess now I can work on fixing it. Maybe I should go out more often and strike a conversation with someone. I never have trouble communicating or interacting with people, I just don't seek it out. I like hanging out with tons of people (especially if I'm the center of attention), but I think it's more about achieving a feeling of acceptance and belonging than actually enjoying other people's company.

Are any blossoming therapists reading this? Is passive aggressive disorder one of the more common afflictions out there? Does it maybe have to do with American culture? Are there a lot of people out there with this?

Oh man that describes like 95% of me, especially the part you bolded.

Think i may have it.

Transhuman · Jul 28, 2017

This sounds like a bunch of pseudo science gobbledygook

entremet · Jul 28, 2017

Nope. Normal passive aggressivness is common in corporate America though. Like everywhere.

andymcc · Jul 28, 2017

entremet said:
Nope. Normal passive aggressivness is common in corporate America though. Like everywhere.

Are people even capable of writing non passive aggressive emails in corporate America?

harriet the spy · Jul 28, 2017

Transhuman said:
This sounds like a bunch of pseudo science gobbledygook

yea, what kind of test is this? I kind of doubt real psychiatry would give a patient's diagnosis that essentially reads as 'you're a boring piece of shit with meaningless life. Also u r an asshole lol'.
I am not sure I would read too much into this, OP.

oneils · Jul 28, 2017

Holy shit that quote is brutal. I recognize myself in some of it. But I do try to change, that's gotta count for something right?

TatteredHat · Jul 28, 2017

That quote sounds like the psychology version of a daily newspaper horoscope, I wouldn't put too much weight on it.

Shredderi · Jul 28, 2017

His uneventful life is composed of extended periods of solitude that are characterized by feelings of emptiness. ... Displaying a pervasive inadequacy in most areas, he tends to follow a meaningless, ineffectual, idle life pattern that is marked by his characteristic tendency to remain on the periphery of social activities.

Jesus fucking christ is this an objective assessment of this personality type of is it trying to outright punish anyone who is like this

That is a pretty deep burn because I recognize myself in it, yet I don't think I'm passive aggressive.

snausagesUK · Jul 28, 2017

Dammit I gotta try to stop staying on the periphery of social situations.

Maybe if I run into the centre of a room and yell bazinga people will like me more.

Moose Biscuits · Jul 28, 2017

For all those confused: magical thinking is any thinking which assumes that one can influence stuff without actively effecting it.

A good example: jinxes. Thinking that saying "this can't possibly get worse" will make things worse, is magical thinking.

Pagusas · Jul 28, 2017

Moose Biscuits said:
For all those confused: magical thinking is any thinking which assumes that one can influence stuff without actively effecting it.

A good example: jinxes. Thinking that saying "this can't possibly get worse" will make things worse, is magical thinking.

My wife is always telling me I jinx everything. I'm going to start telling her she's a magical thinker.

Kinokou · Jul 28, 2017

Moose Biscuits said:
For all those confused: magical thinking is any thinking which assumes that one can influence stuff without actively effecting it.

A good example: jinxes. Thinking that saying "this can't possibly get worse" will make things worse, is magical thinking.

That's actually an accepted academic term?

GungHo · Jul 28, 2017

You can grow a lot of shrooms in that horseshit to help you with that magical thinking.

big_z · Jul 28, 2017

Is this test available online? We should compare scores... add a little variety over the typical penis length threads.

Moose Biscuits · Jul 28, 2017

Kinokou said:
That's actually an accepted academic term?

Used in anthropology and psychology. I wasn't exactly right: it refers to a supposed association between thoughts and actions.

Ie. I think of something, that thing happens.

Spookie · Jul 28, 2017

I should link this to my flat mate. Maybe he can take a break from being an intolerable prick.

Krauser Kat · Jul 28, 2017

ITT. everyone learns what magical thinking. Prayers are also magical thinking, and probably the biggest use of it.

Not · Jul 29, 2017

big_z said:
Is this test available online? We should compare scores... add a little variety over the typical penis length threads.

I don't think so. I wish I could remember the name of it, but it appeared to be standardized and official. I filled out a scantron, essentially. The therapist mentioned it was used in some aspect of the military and/or government IIRC.

Krauser Kat said:
ITT. everyone learns what magical thinking. Prayers are also magical thinking, and probably the biggest use of it.

Ah. Makes sense, as I was raised Baptist.

GalacticToast · Jul 29, 2017

Where is the line drawn when it comes to actual disorders and people who look to justify their behavior through a diagnosis?

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