ElBoxyBrown
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Who I'm sure has Japan's interest in mind. America isn't making the games.
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NIS America - "Microsoft's not very supportive of Japanese Games"
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Who I'm sure has Japan's interest in mind. America isn't making the games.
Yui's Empire
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Which isn't even accurate given how great ID@Xbox is for small studios.
Japanese games aren't just sold in Japan. They lose an important part of the audience if everybody who wants to play Persona or Nier or Nioh has to own a Playstation.
There is no disc requirement. That's solely on the publisher.
SilverLunar
Member
Falcom only support Sony and PC, their input on this is meaningless.
GuitarAtomik
Member
That's what I'm getting from this. Definitely sounds like some policies need to change to be more accommodating. I'm curious if this is more specific to physical copies though based on the comment and the few recent-ish comments from digital focused Western indie devs about how MS has been supportive.
Renna Hazel
Member
I should have said that specific policy itself targets smaller studios rather than being an anti-Japan policy.
Falcom is obviously a Japan-focused developer and looking at the situation in Japan, the Nintendo Switch has had a difficult time
Alternatively they funnel all of their audience onto one or two platforms and save money by only having to develop for a few platforms.
Astral Dog
Member
Jesus Christ
Read the rest of what they say...
Chobel
Member
Not really, there Japan pubs who release their Xbox games only in the west (Koei Tecmo, Namco...)
LordBaztion
Member
the minimum printing policy is so dumb but I don't understand why this publisher would want to release its games on retail, it would make releasing the game just more expensive for an already small audience.
Jaguar Victory
Member
Because niche Japanese titles are the only reason to get excited about a console amirite? There are literally no other reasons. You'reAlreadyDead.jpg Microsoft
/s obviously
Heartskips
Banned
Playstation owners buy Persona, Nier and Nioh. Developing for it makes sense. I don't know if it's worth for japanese developers to make Xbox One versions of their games (I believe it's not).
DeuceGamer
Member
I'm going to guess there is a size able crossover between those buying niche Japanese games and collectors who want a Physical version. No data to back it up but I know collectors are mindful of those types of releases.
Astral Dog
Member
There is, but much lesser than last gen, its why not many Japanese games outside the big hitters of Capcom and Square Enix make the jump, and even then the sales difference between platforms is quite big
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Which games have they released on Xbox?
anothertech
Member
Didn't Phil just get back from Japan or something? Surely the tides are turning?
One side talked and one side listened. Judging from the quotes in the OP I'm gonna guess that not much happened as a result of his visit.
Jaguar Victory
Member
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2017/2/10/14567090/crunchyroll-subscriber-count-2017
There is interest in anime and Japanese games in America. How much extra could it cost to port to XBOX if you already have an English PC version?
These comments are just silly. He didn't visit every studio in Japan, he went after the heavy hitters surely. Bandai-Namco. Square-Enix. Capcom. Etc.
There is interest in anime and Japanese games in America. How much extra could it cost to port to XBOX if you already have an English PC version?
These comments are just silly. He didn't visit every studio in Japan, he went after the heavy hitters surely. Bandai-Namco. Square-Enix. Capcom. Etc.
I doubt phil spencer went to japan to talk with Falcom
They had no reason to chime in as several people already mentioned
Maybe but anything he tried to work on now probably won't materialize for a few years. Also at this point most companies seem to be seeing success releasing on the PS4/NSW so he would have had to explain why they would see more audience including the XBO.
Heartskips
Banned
I would say if Monster Hunter World, Code Vein and Dragon Ball FighterZ are on Xbox because of Phil's trips, he did a good job.
While I believe these games won't really sell that well on Xbox, these are some of the best titles for the platform as they look to have a bigger western appeal than most japanese games.
Also, yeah, Falcom's comments makes no sense. They didn't even support the 3DS, the biggest hardware in Japan with more than 4x the sales of the Vita.
While I believe these games won't really sell that well on Xbox, these are some of the best titles for the platform as they look to have a bigger western appeal than most japanese games.
Also, yeah, Falcom's comments makes no sense. They didn't even support the 3DS, the biggest hardware in Japan with more than 4x the sales of the Vita.
Chobel
Member
Just off the top of my head: One piece games (Namco), Arslan Senki game (Koei Tecmo), these games had no Japanese version for Xbox yet they were released in the west. There's also one game from Sega which had western release only, Valkyria Revolution.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Do you think many other Japanese developers feel differently if we're being candid about this?
Well, the XBOX is getting a lot of Bamco multipats.
Dougieflesh
Member
At least they attempted to be supportive the previous two gens.
That were probably coming regardless.
Chobel
Member
Well, this thread is for why NIS America isn't publishing their games in Xbox.
michaelius
Banned
Well that important part is very questionable.
FF Type 0 was 80/20 split on American market which is best case for xbox.
For a game which sells 10 or 20k copies in retail that might not even cover logistic costs.
small/niche developers who want to put physical versions and can't/won't? surely not.
that's not the only kind of japanese game that skipped the xbox over these years though and i'm sure that's what he tried to get to the platform. if he suceeded or not, only time will tell
doubt code vein and monster hunter would be locks for xbox if it depended on the devs will alone
dragonball has enough western appeal though
how exactly is this lack of good will from microsoft again
should they force japanese consumers to buy xboxes? or just straight up gift half of japan with one
the game not being on the switch tells another story
GhostTrick
Banned
As I thought. The minimum printing + the lack of audience + the lack of good will from MS is the reason why a lot of Japanese publishers avoid Xbox One. And this is why on the other hand, Steam has been thriving on that end, because of the entry cost to get there being so low + the audience being there + the long term perspectives.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
You'd think we get something like Nier Automata and NNK2 then. Definitely Nier after the success.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Monster Hunter was a sure lock. Capcom wants that game to sell Destiny numbers.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Probably talked to bigger Japanese devs (eg. Capcom, Square-Enix, Namco, Level-5 maybe).
Yui's Empire
Member
Console still sold like ass in Japan despite important Japanese exclusives. Japan only cares about home-grown consoles, nothing wrong with that but it should be reminded next time people complain about MS's stance. What can you say when a publisher releases a game on the West for the freaking Vita but not for the Xbox One? Or when a multiplatform skips only the Microsoft consoles? They must hate money.
Those games wouldn't need limited prints