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'Logan': Black and White Version Coming to Theaters on May 16th.

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old manatee

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I wish someone would commit to making a dope black and white genre picture instead of doing these half-assed after the fact conversions. You would shoot the movie differently if the goal was black and white right from the beginning.
 
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Lys Skygge

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The Exploder said:
I wish someone would commit to making a dope black and white genre picture instead of doing these half-assed after the fact conversions. You would shoot the movie differently if the goal was black and white right from the beginning.
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I agree. Shoot it on 35mm Tri-X. That'd look damn good.
 
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Fat4all

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Snaku said:
The Mist
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More_Badass

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I'm a huge fan of black-and-white photography, and so I find the recent trend toward showing films without color to be very fascinating.

Too many of the cell-phone generation think B&W is just a filter on your phone, and that couldn't be further from the truth. Quality B&W photography requires an especially keen eye for contrast and lines, and the equipment to handle it - in the digital age, that means a native monochrome sensor without any color array or a supremely tricky film simulation.

Glad to see this is going to be re-graded shot-by-shot... they'll get my money.
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I saw a good video related to this, talking about classic noir and modern noir/neo-noir and how many of the visual mainstays of the genre lose much of their impact without the subtle contrasts between black and white when they're done in color
 
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MomoPufflet

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Is there a listing of theaters up that I'm missing? I don't want to get my hopes up that it'll even be playing near me. Is it gonna be some LA only bullshit?
 
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Sgt. Kabukiman

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To make a great B&W version of a film, the whole thing's gotta be regraded & timed shot by shot," he added.
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Very happy to hear that. I still haven't seen Logan since the only version available anywhere near me was a shitty dub so I might go with the B&W version first whenever it hits blu-ray.
 
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Lord Frieza

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Hopefully they release this version with the upcoming media release with the regular version, but they'll probably release it separately because of monies.
 
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Vincent Alexander

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Skel1ingt0n said:
I'm a huge fan of black-and-white photography, and so I find the recent trend toward showing films without color to be very fascinating.

Too many of the cell-phone generation think B&W is just a filter on your phone, and that couldn't be further from the truth. Quality B&W photography requires an especially keen eye for contrast and lines, and the equipment to handle it - in the digital age, that means a native monochrome sensor without any color array or a supremely tricky film simulation.

Glad to see this is going to be re-graded shot-by-shot... they'll get my money.
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Same. I absolutely love black-and-white, but most people I know give me shit for "being a hipster" because of it. The contrast between the blacks, whites, and all your grays in-between, make black-and-white so damn satisfying. I could look at it for ages.
 
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Violence Jack

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It's playing at my Alamo theater, and I'm going back and forth in my mind if I want to go or not. But it sounds like a really cool promotion.
 
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JdFoX187

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Glad to hear it will be in the 4K UHD release. I just hope Fox doesn't cheap out and actually includes a 4K version, rather than just a blu-ray version, like Warner Bros. did with Mad Max Fury Road Black & Chrome.
 
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Not Spaceghost

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Ehhhh, this isn't a movie like the mist where the acting and general atmosphere really were enhanced by the throw back black and white aesthetic from the bonus version.

Logan and it's high impact violence scenes are action movie as fuck and probably better in color where you get to see blood everywhere. It's not like sin city where they had the stylization in mind from the get go.

Even after seeing the youtube clip I am not convinced at all. Black and white works well when the movie has an atmosphere that suits it. Logan doesn't lol.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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There are shots in that trailer that absolutely work great in black & white (the truck heading through the cornfield, specfically)

But I think most of the stuff in the final battle is just going to look like desaturated footage. There's just not enough pop to the imagery, I don't think. Stuff like the farmhouse fight, which is mostly lit with headlights and fire? That stuff should look great in black & white, because it's already a sharp, contrasty image.

But I think this is going to be kind of uneven, even after they went through and shot by shot corrected for black & white.
 
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Decider

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I saw Black and Chrome at the cinema this month and I don't think it really worked completely well. The night scenes looked especially muddier. Would've been better if Miller had been allowed to shoot it in black and white but it stands, it feels like a compromise.

Skel1ingt0n said:
Too many of the cell-phone generation think B&W is just a filter on your phone, and that couldn't be further from the truth. Quality B&W photography requires an especially keen eye for contrast and lines, and the equipment to handle it - in the digital age, that means a native monochrome sensor without any color array or a supremely tricky film simulation.
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People understand what black and white photography is.
 
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HotHamBoy

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Did George Miller start something?

Skel1ingt0n said:
Too many of the cell-phone generation think B&W is just a filter on your phone, and that couldn't be further from the truth. Quality B&W photography requires an especially keen eye for contrast and lines, and the equipment to handle it - in the digital age, that means a native monochrome sensor without any color array or a supremely tricky film simulation.
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Utterly asanine statement.
 
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Buntabox

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Bobby Roberts said:
There are shots in that trailer that absolutely work great in black & white (the truck heading through the cornfield, specfically)

But I think most of the stuff in the final battle is just going to look like desaturated footage. There's just not enough pop to the imagery, I don't think. Stuff like the farmhouse fight, which is mostly lit with headlights and fire? That stuff should look great in black & white, because it's already a sharp, contrasty image.

But I think this is going to be kind of uneven, even after they went through and shot by shot corrected for black & white.
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Saw it at Drafthouse last night and that's pretty much exactly what it was. There is some really great looking stuff in there, but some areas just don't work. The casino interior lobby looks pretty uninteresting due to the lack of high contrast. Same for the forest ending. Just looks like the color was sapped out.

I think my favorite shot was the interior of Charle's water tower room. The holes with sunlight pouring in makes it look like a starry background. The farm house yes, was mostly pretty good.

It's a neat way to watch the movie. If you have an aversion to blood, it might help. Somewhat.

Mangold made it clear in the Q&A that this was NOT his definitive version but merely a response to fans who really liked his B&W photography from production.
 
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