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Glass Rebel
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People been hyping Defenders? Could have fooled me.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
There's technically a reference to
Spider-Man in the final episode, in the lyrics of a Wu-Tang Clan song that plays as they fight lol
Strangelove77
Member
Where? Everyone here seems to be shitting on it.
I love them keep pointing out how insane and unbelievable all this is and forgetting that earth was saved thrice from aliens, terminators and basically the comic illuminati two of them from a mythological God
And gifted people exist in this world and are widely known and they act like all this is too out there
In all fairness, even if you existed in such a universe, I think you'd still be caught by surprise if someone you knew casually made reference to fighting a dragon, or that there was a secret society who found the cure to death itself.
True I'll give them that
Though the hand isn't the most out there when hydra and inhumans exist (though to be fair inhuman are just gifted people to everybody else)
I'm not sure the public at large know about the existence of Inhumans? I don't watch SHIELD though, so maybe that show contradicts that.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Yeah. I don't mind the skepticism. People can easily compartmentalize one thing and not another. (Aliens existing sure, but dragons... that's fantasy!)
Glass Rebel
Member
First off, you're missing out. Second, the public image of Inhumans is a pretty big topic in S3 and S4.
Exactly, yeah. I think real life can be a lot more complicated in that. If someone gave me iron-clad proof of the existence of martians, that suddenly wouldn't make me more willing to buy into the existence of fairies, you know? I think people can be extremely stubborn when it comes to accepting the extraordinary, certainly when it comes to deranged shit like dragons and the concept of immortality.
I tried the first few episodes of Season 1, but they were all so aggressively bad, I just had to stop watching. I know it apparently gets much better, but I don't think I'm willing to wade through all the bad stuff to get to the good. And I say this as someone who managed to get to the end of Iron Fist.
Glass Rebel
Member
Well, if you don't mind skipping stuff, you can watch these before the turning point of the series at episode 17:
1, 4, 11, 13, 14, 16
And then you can still go back and watch the missing episodes if you feel like it.
1, 4, 11, 13, 14, 16
And then you can still go back and watch the missing episodes if you feel like it.
There is a CBM Discord.
I think X-Men Movie Quicksilver is the better Quicksilver than MCU Quicksilver, everyone else here feels differently.
DoctorFling
Member
MCU Quicksilver is a better representation of the comic book character but the X-Men version is more entertaining on-screen. And alive.
He is better. Surely there's no contest? Not that it's saying alot but his scenes steal the show in those movies. He just had a shitty dumbass death in the MCU.
Glass Rebel
Member
I don't think anyone argued that X-Men Quicksilver wasn't more entertaining. The argument, if I recall correctly, was that he isn't a character but a glorified setpiece.
DoctorFling
Member
That and the dumb subplot about Magneto being his dad was so pointless. It was refreshing in the MCU not having those characters bogged down by stupid X-Men shit.
I think you're probably right, yeah.
Even so, I still think there was more to that character than MCU Quicksilver. But then in all honesty, there wasn't a whole lot about Age of Ultron I walked away satisfied with.
Mighty Chin
Banned
One is broken the other isn't.
Well both are in different ways
The Defenders intro is too damn good.
I took some snapshots from a high quality clip (not the YT link). Gonna do a little tinkering and maybe use it as a rotating wallpaper set.
I took some snapshots from a high quality clip (not the YT link). Gonna do a little tinkering and maybe use it as a rotating wallpaper set.
It's such a minor thing, but it really bugs me about how they straddle the line between referencing the films in the Netflix shows, but not exactly. The Chitauri invasion is always just "the incident", the Hulk is always "the big green guy", "the dude with the magic hammer". Why even make the reference if you're so hesitant on actually making the reference?
It just kinda takes me out of it sometimes, since it seems like they go out of their way to do it. Like, I think people of NYC would have a name for the alien invasion at this point instead of speaking of it with vague references of "the incident" like it's Voldemort.
It just kinda takes me out of it sometimes, since it seems like they go out of their way to do it. Like, I think people of NYC would have a name for the alien invasion at this point instead of speaking of it with vague references of "the incident" like it's Voldemort.
Yeah, this. Though I really liked that kitchen set piece. The one while the house is blowing up made me roll my eyes cuz he's basically moving at near light speed during it and that's just plain ridiculous.
This gets said a lot, but it really isn't that accurate. "The Incident" is the in-universe name for the Chitauri Invasion, the way that 9-11 is our name for the terrorist attack on the twin towers (which, by the way, is the commonly used name for the World Trade Center). So, yeah, whenever it's mentioned, they just call it by its generally accepted name.
The Hulk isn't given a public name in the movies...so how is the average person supposed to refer to him?
While there are euphemisms for Thor and Stark and Cap, they also get called by name, so it's not like the shows are hesitant to make any reference, it's that the writers get a bit too overzealous with their nicknames.
Is that the in-universe name? I always noticed it was lower-case in subtitles, so I always assumed it was a mere reference rather than the in-universe name.
Cap does refer to him as Hulk in Avengers at least, but I think that's the only time that happens. Suggests that he is nicknamed "Hulk", but I suppose that might not be public knowledge, so I'll give you that.
And maybe that's my issue, that seems to be what they do in the Netflix shows more often than not. I honestly can't remember any time they make a reference to any specific Avenger expect with the descriptive nicknames, but I suppose I could be mistaken, it's a lot of footage to remember.
Well, Hulk's only referred to himself as such once, so I could see it not being the go-to nickname for the public when they refer to him. Heck, I think that point with Cap is the only time any of the Avengers refer to him as Hulk, either. If they ever give him a specific name, they just refer to him as Banner or Bruce.
Wait, wasn't the Hulkbuster referred to by name in Homecoming? Yeah, nevermind what I said then, the public totally knows him as the Hulk.
Wait, wasn't the Hulkbuster referred to by name in Homecoming? Yeah, nevermind what I said then, the public totally knows him as the Hulk.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Plus, I'm pretty certain one of the girls in the gym scene in Homecoming explicitly says "F Thor, marry Iron Man, kill the Hulk."
The Hulk is definitely referred to as such in-universe guys, c'mon.
Yeah, I absoloutely love the main theme for The Defenders, as well as the opening intro. They did a really great job with it.
I love how the main indicator of quality for the Netflix shows ever since Iron Fist came out has now become Is it better than Iron Fist?
Have we really fallen so far?
Yeah, I absoloutely love the main theme for The Defenders, as well as the opening intro. They did a really great job with it.
I love how the main indicator of quality for the Netflix shows ever since Iron Fist came out has now become Is it better than Iron Fist?
Have we really fallen so far?
Tetsujin_MK
Member
"Battle of New York" is the name.
"Incident" is just such a non-descriptive, generic term that I don't think anyone would use to refer to such a big and specific event.
Hey I liked inhuman, it's better than Iron fist
Hey I liked Iron Fist season 2 it's better than inhuman
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Pai Pai Master
Banned
"Battle of New York" is the name.
"Incident" is just such a non-descriptive, generic term that I don't think anyone would use to refer to such a big and specific event.
It's both. The whole situation with Loki, the Chitauri and the black hole is referred to as "The Incident" multiple times in Marvel TV. The actual fight however is called The Battle Of New York in both the shows and the movies.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Damn, they actually
The Defenders is cool. Not great, but good. Kinda sick of the Hand.
cut Misty's arm off? Thank you, comic gods.
The Defenders is cool. Not great, but good. Kinda sick of the Hand.
I haven't watched any Defenders yet and shouldn't have clicked that spoiler but dang, that makes me excited.
I wasn't surprised they actually did it.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I had my doubts about them taking it to that, but as soon as the scene that it happened in started, I knew.
Lol, I actually meant that I was surprised that they did it. If she was in one of the movies, then I wouldn't have doubted it but the Netflix shows have changed enough that I wasn't expecting it when it actually happened.
DrROBschiz
Member
Its... mediocre
Which is a far cry from what i expected going in.
Script and Plot are what truly killed it but i was also disappointed in the action. To much meandering, monlogues, explanations, weird decisions
Its like they were really handcuffed in all areas. Lacking in budget and structure. Such a shame.
Yeah it seemed utterly pointless, felt like she was just cast in it because of who she is. Reminds me of Agents of SHIELD going out of their way to not use anyone from the source material as much as possible.
Main villain should have been someone like the Hood.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Well, The Defenders has definitely made sure that Daredevilwon't be showing up for Infinity War or Avengers 4.
It's time for me to move on with my life.
Huh? Did you not watch the end?
Matt's alive being looked after by his mom the nun.
I know, which means the character is going to essentially be out of action until the next season of Daredevil comes along until at least 2018, seeing as how Matt's recovery is going to lead directly into the Born Again storyline they're setting up for Season 3.
The character will be out of action until his story is resolved. Right now, his character isn't in a position to get involved with any of the films...given that for all and purposes, he has to remain asleep on that bed until his own show sees fit to wake him up.
The character will be out of action until his story is resolved. Right now, his character isn't in a position to get involved with any of the films...given that for all and purposes, he has to remain asleep on that bed until his own show sees fit to wake him up.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Aren't all these Netflix shows still taking place a year or two behind though? Not that I expect DD to be in the films anyway, but he could easily regain his health by the time Infinity War rolls around in MCU timeline.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
I mean
I think there's zero chance of any of the tv folks showing up in Infinity War, or the movies, in general. Though Marvel not bringing in Fisk into a Spider-Man movie is a sin.