Jawmuncher
Member
I'm just worried about it playing like Inquistion. If I am forced to do side quests to play the main story so help me....
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I'm a Bit Worried about Mass Effect: Andromeda
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But...people are saying that graphics aren't so hot so where does that leave it?
As a pretty darn good third person shooter with RPG elements?
True, but lets not act like there's been nothing either.
shinobi602
Member
There's not a chance of this happening.
RoboticWater
Banned
I feel like those people haven't seen the game then. It's not quite Battlefront, but it's one of the best looking RPG on the market from what we've seen, and if previous Frostbite trailers are any indication, there's little chance that it'll be noticeably downgraded before release.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The first is the shittiest RPG in the series so...
I mean, we HAVE seen actual gameplay. Those videos aren't actual gameplay because why would that video possibly exist in game? Those certainly look like game assets, just the video itself doesn't exist in game. Perhaps not in engine either, though again the assets are certainly not cg or anything.
Hey, I didn't say it looked bad, but a lot of folk are constantly ragging on the animations and character models. But I'll stop before someone is tempted to post that blasted gif.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Mass Effect was tied with Uncharted as my favorite trilogy last gen so I'm excited, but also concerned.
You should do that regardless.
You should do that regardless.
LumpOfCole
Member
I just want to get to know the characters more, like who the salarian is that narrates the Nomad / Tempest trailer.
Back-In-Black
Banned
Why haven't you done that in the first place?
TC McQueen
Member
He's your pilot.
The thing that bothers me about the gif getting posted all the time, the animation itself isn't really that bad, it's just awkward as fuck contextually. If they were TRYING to make Ryder do a "Fuck everything you guys are all idiots" kind of exasperated look it would've been fine, it just doesn't work as a 'hey a gun is pointed at you' disarm animation.
Have we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOIzH6UcoW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRStRzbBD_g
The "gameplay" trailers has this tidbit where it says captured in Engine. Representative of gameplay experience.
Which worries me a bit on why they haven't shown us actual gameplay.
It looks fine.
This one looks OK but it is quite dark.
I wish they would show Virmire-quality daylight environments.
tearsintherain
Member
I'm expecting an absolutely terrible game, hopefully I am surprised positively. Just zero faith in Bioware today after DA:I and ME3.
Where are these gameplay trailers you speak off?
I am worried too but for different reasons, OP.
ME:A looks great, Bioware's artists are at their finest forms. Also, If there is any sense left, Bioware will keep and enhance ME3's great game play. I do not have any problem on class switching too.
I am worried about story and characters. The Asari looks meh at best and i am not an admirer of Walters's storytelling abilities. I also know nothing, and have being hearing not many good things, about Schlerf plus he is not a Bioware employee any more.
Also, subjectivity. The things i dislike could be someone else's gold and vice-versa.
ME:A looks great, Bioware's artists are at their finest forms. Also, If there is any sense left, Bioware will keep and enhance ME3's great game play. I do not have any problem on class switching too.
I am worried about story and characters. The Asari looks meh at best and i am not an admirer of Walters's storytelling abilities. I also know nothing, and have being hearing not many good things, about Schlerf plus he is not a Bioware employee any more.
Also, subjectivity. The things i dislike could be someone else's gold and vice-versa.
Looks like last gen with chromatic aberration tbh.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
I don't know what everyone is on, the game looks hype to me. I can barely control my excitement and anticipation for it. It will look glorious on my PC and PS4 Pro.
I have to admit though that I'm a little worried about the lack of marketing for it on EA's part. I hope they aren't foolish to think that this game doesn't need marketing. I know it's already popular but any game can benefit from good marketing.
I have to admit though that I'm a little worried about the lack of marketing for it on EA's part. I hope they aren't foolish to think that this game doesn't need marketing. I know it's already popular but any game can benefit from good marketing.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yep, I'm thinking the switch to Dice's Frostbite engine, away from the unreal engine (that's what they're using, right?), is creating problems for the team. They should've left Bioware to continue developing the games using an engine they were much more familiar with. This new Mass Effect should, by all accounts, be using Unreal 4.
Hope it turns out great.
Hope it turns out great.
Back-In-Black
Banned
I 100% believe this, you could tell with Inquisition the engine was causing them problems.
JeffG
Member
I've seen 3
JeffG
Member
How so?
RoboticWater
Banned
Jeez, what is with this Virmire stuff all the time? It's an exotic-ish beach with vaguely sci-fi buildings and a great mission. I'm not really seeing which aspects of Virmire are so gripping that they completely outstrip the glimpses of Andromeda we've seen thus far. In fact, compared to many of Mass Effect's environments its aesthetic seems quite ordinary.
We've seen plenty of daylight environments and more than enough foliage, so do you just want to see a planet with water features?
DAE PS2 game???!?!
Seriously, this sort of rhetoric gets tossed around far too often. Please, show me a handful of games from last gen that achieve the same level of image quality.
OP you are not wrong. This is beyond troublesome. Recall most bioware games have come with books and comics before release ( DA,ME and SWTOR). For as I now I have not seen anything.
The trailers are anemic. Boring. Their conversations with us is almost non-existent and more like they were trying to hide something. The best I can hope is maybe they are trying not to ruin some big surprise?
But right now it's not a game I am thinking about. Frankly I had forgotten it was so soon. There are way too many games to compete with it. Horizon and Zelda are going to take that time slot. Since I don't care about the MP, its now looking..can't believe this...but I will probably play it when it gets a big price drop. Unless the reviews go thru the roof.
The trailers are anemic. Boring. Their conversations with us is almost non-existent and more like they were trying to hide something. The best I can hope is maybe they are trying not to ruin some big surprise?
But right now it's not a game I am thinking about. Frankly I had forgotten it was so soon. There are way too many games to compete with it. Horizon and Zelda are going to take that time slot. Since I don't care about the MP, its now looking..can't believe this...but I will probably play it when it gets a big price drop. Unless the reviews go thru the roof.
AcademicSaucer
Member
I hope the game is fantastic but Im going to wait for the reviews
Almost always when a publisher is confident about how a game is going to do, they'll put out a ton of media for it beforehand. This hasn't recevied the same kind of attention, and that makes me concerned about how much actual content is in the game.
Plus, we're way too close to the disaster that was NMS to be comfortable with "don't worry, all this stuff is in the game! It's going to be great!"
Plus, we're way too close to the disaster that was NMS to be comfortable with "don't worry, all this stuff is in the game! It's going to be great!"
Back-In-Black
Banned
I think the big thing that stuck out to me that made me believe they had problems with the engine were the cutscenes/cinematic camera in Inquisition. First, any time cutscenes played it seemed to eat up resources and if you alt+tabbed out of your game and came back they would stutter. But, more importantly was the limited use of the cinematic camera in the game. The majority of conversations in the game is that awful static, third person camera, that allows for no facial expressions and no movement. Only really important conversations get the cinematic camera.
No other BioWare game has done that.
Example:
Mass Effect 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C39J69QYKEA&list=PL28F222B983EB9777&index=7
You're typical cinematic camera use, A camera + B camera. Close ups for expressions.
Inquisition: https://youtu.be/pF9lEIqwpdY?t=1m9s
Awful static camera, no movement, no close ups, no facial expressions or animation.
Thankfully, Shinobi has confirmed that Andromeda will use the cinematic camera for the "majority" of conversations. So it seems they've mostly solved the issue.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Basically with every Mass Effect game since the first, you saw evidence that Bioware were really hitting their groove and getting to focus more on the games themselves without wrestling too much with the engine, like they no doubt had to with the first Mass Effect.
With this game, I get the feeling like maybe they're starting from square one in a lot of respects, and it shouldn't be that way.
With this game, I get the feeling like maybe they're starting from square one in a lot of respects, and it shouldn't be that way.
LegalEagleMike
Member
A substantial amount of dialogue with party members in Mass Effect 3 took place in a similar manner.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Hopefully it runs great on PC.
Back-In-Black
Banned
Not really, what you're talking about was the auto dialogue exchanges you could have with party members. This was a great addition as it allowed for a lot more dialogue reacting to recent events without being a full blown scene. But, any actual conversation in ME3 used the cinematic camera. Inquisition has pretty much all conversations use the camera system shown above, even important side quests. It's only the really important stuff that gets a cinematic camera.
The first time they showed the game was completely dull.
The big trailer with that jank animation looked awful, the dialogue in it sounded like it was from a free to play mmo.
The small 2 minute gameplay from the other day looked like a mess of just running around shooting at everything as though it were a match in a horde mode instead of the story.
PEEBEE.
And one of the people working on the story was apparently the guy who wrote Halo 4 and Destiny's story. And guess what ? Now Mass Effect has "the Pathfinder" "the chosen" and "the anointed." Just hearing that stuff made my expectations for the story fall to a $20 or less buy. I hate that "the speaker, the traveler, the awoken" garbage. It's all interchangeable and means nothing to me. Just write a story and stop using titles for everything in your convoluted high school level plots. Shepard wasn't called "The Spectre."
The big trailer with that jank animation looked awful, the dialogue in it sounded like it was from a free to play mmo.
The small 2 minute gameplay from the other day looked like a mess of just running around shooting at everything as though it were a match in a horde mode instead of the story.
PEEBEE.
And one of the people working on the story was apparently the guy who wrote Halo 4 and Destiny's story. And guess what ? Now Mass Effect has "the Pathfinder" "the chosen" and "the anointed." Just hearing that stuff made my expectations for the story fall to a $20 or less buy. I hate that "the speaker, the traveler, the awoken" garbage. It's all interchangeable and means nothing to me. Just write a story and stop using titles for everything in your convoluted high school level plots. Shepard wasn't called "The Spectre."
The marketing for the game has been terrible. EA has absolutely dropped the ball there.
Thankfully Bioware is one of my favorite studios so I'm not too worried about the actual state of the game, but the marketing is some of the worst I have ever seen. We needed a solid 15-20 minute demo at months ago to really show how everything fits together and flows.
Thankfully Bioware is one of my favorite studios so I'm not too worried about the actual state of the game, but the marketing is some of the worst I have ever seen. We needed a solid 15-20 minute demo at months ago to really show how everything fits together and flows.