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2016-17 TV Cancellations Thread: TNT finds "Nothing can come of nothing."
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Lethal Weapon must be cheap, and Fox is desperate
I'm not ruling it out yet. MacGyver will be bad and come back. Like Scorpion.
Just watching reruns of Buffy the Vampire Slayer on Netflix or something?
Avatar quote?
I mean House of Cards ain't that good.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The other one then. I have no clue which one is actually named what.
Timeless, I think it is. I expect Frequency to be better than either of those.
I guess Notorious, three eps in? Seems like a procedural version of something people are only watching in Soap form these days (Shondaland series).
Predicting that everyone is gonna be mostly gunshy about cancellations again like last season. Like you have to have really bad ratings like Wicked City did to just straight up get pulled.
Pretty sure Wicked City got pulled right off the schedule, was one of the first ones, right?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The first show to be cancelled last season was ABC's Wicked City on November 13th, just 3 episodes into its season.
The year before that it was ABC's Manhattan Love Story on October 24th, after 4 episodes.
The year before that it was ABC's Lucky 7 on October 4th, after 2 episodes.
Out of ABC's new fall shows, the only one that I could see being a big enough bomb to be the first cancelled series of the season would be Notorious, but that's sandwiched in between Grey's and HtGAwM, so it has the chance of doing okayish.
The year before that it was ABC's Manhattan Love Story on October 24th, after 4 episodes.
The year before that it was ABC's Lucky 7 on October 4th, after 2 episodes.
Out of ABC's new fall shows, the only one that I could see being a big enough bomb to be the first cancelled series of the season would be Notorious, but that's sandwiched in between Grey's and HtGAwM, so it has the chance of doing okayish.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I realized that it's been a year since I've had a decent TV news podcast to listen to and there STILL isn't a replacement by either Sepinwall or Feinberg. I guess podcasting about TV is deeeeead.
PHOENIXZERO
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Lethal Weapon looks bad, MacGyver looks offensively so on top of being so blatant in its emulating the formula CBS has been running on now for well over a decade and looks to pretty much be a redressing of Scorpion and whatever the other shows do and less like the original MacGyver along with looking absolutely dreadful. It'll get five seasons and end up a part of the NCIS (or should that be JAG?) universe.
I'm also watching Timeless because I'm a sucker for time travel and I hope it doesn't suck and I hope that hilariously bad shot of them running from IIRC the Hindenburg crash and explosion is either improved of cut. Given how things go with science fiction on major networks it's probably DOA like the rest of the timey wimey shows that have been on them post-Quantum Leap.
Speaking of I'm almost expecting NBC to finally whip out a Quantum Leap reboot next year. I'm surprised they haven't actually done it beyond that continuation that never got off the ground a long time ago at SyFy, actually might've still been Sci-Fi then. Maybe they learned their lesson after bringing back and fucking up the other shows they did that with like Bionic Woman and Knight Rider both of which should've been complete no brainers on how to make it work and maybe that was the problem. Kind of a shame since there was definitely an opening to do a continuation there even though being a product of its time made the show's "future" setting more comedic than probably intended... At least they limited its usage. On the other hand if it's a full on reboot or Bellisario isn't involved I don't think I'd want to see it anyway.
I'm also watching Timeless because I'm a sucker for time travel and I hope it doesn't suck and I hope that hilariously bad shot of them running from IIRC the Hindenburg crash and explosion is either improved of cut. Given how things go with science fiction on major networks it's probably DOA like the rest of the timey wimey shows that have been on them post-Quantum Leap.
Speaking of I'm almost expecting NBC to finally whip out a Quantum Leap reboot next year. I'm surprised they haven't actually done it beyond that continuation that never got off the ground a long time ago at SyFy, actually might've still been Sci-Fi then. Maybe they learned their lesson after bringing back and fucking up the other shows they did that with like Bionic Woman and Knight Rider both of which should've been complete no brainers on how to make it work and maybe that was the problem. Kind of a shame since there was definitely an opening to do a continuation there even though being a product of its time made the show's "future" setting more comedic than probably intended... At least they limited its usage. On the other hand if it's a full on reboot or Bellisario isn't involved I don't think I'd want to see it anyway.
Timeless, I think it is. I expect Frequency to be better than either of those.
I'm guessing Timeless cancellation then, mid-October, after about 6-7 episodes. Should give them enough time to rush up Taken.
I don't think that will change. Stuff will run for 13 episodes after which they'll magically turn out to have been 'limited series'.
Notorious might fill that Quantico 'vibe', aka a Shonda show that isn't made by Shonda. I hope that, Conviction and Designated Survivor survive. So Speechless and American Housewife for the ABC cancellations.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Bring back Rubicon
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Queen of the South has been renewed.
Zoe
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Well, guess I can catch up now.
Didn't feel compelled to go past the first episode though... hope the rest is still on the DVR.
Rubicon was so good. Real shame.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
To round things out:
The first cancellation of the 2012 season was CBS' Made in Jersey on October 10, after 2 episodes.
in 2011 it was NBC's The Playboy Club on October 4, after 3 episodes.
in 2010 it was Fox's Lone Star on September 28, after 2 episodes.
The first cancellation of the 2012 season was CBS' Made in Jersey on October 10, after 2 episodes.
in 2011 it was NBC's The Playboy Club on October 4, after 3 episodes.
in 2010 it was Fox's Lone Star on September 28, after 2 episodes.
Anyone reading Feinberg's yearly Take Me to the Pilots series?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/topic/take-me-pilots
Impressions articles for several of the new network pilots. I usually find these to be as objective as possible an arbiter of what to expect from the pilots. Good reads.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/topic/take-me-pilots
Impressions articles for several of the new network pilots. I usually find these to be as objective as possible an arbiter of what to expect from the pilots. Good reads.
AngmarsKing701
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So if history serves, some show isn't going to make it to a handful of episodes.
I have a confession to make....,
I'm really looking forward to the Lethal Weapon TV show.
*gasps*
It feels good to share.
I heard they were spending a fortune on Lethal Weapon. But yes, Fox is desperate.
Exorcist.
When this pulls a 0.7 on its debut watch Fox panic like never before.
..., but then again they didn't cancel Scream Queens (thankfully) last year when it debuted to pitiful numbers so we shall see.
I'm really looking forward to the Lethal Weapon TV show.
*gasps*
It feels good to share.
I heard they were spending a fortune on Lethal Weapon. But yes, Fox is desperate.
Exorcist.
When this pulls a 0.7 on its debut watch Fox panic like never before.
..., but then again they didn't cancel Scream Queens (thankfully) last year when it debuted to pitiful numbers so we shall see.
I'll put my money on Lethal Weapon. That or that show on NBC "This is Us" or something along those lines. But Lethal Weapon is my first guess.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
That one with the imaginary friend, I forget it's name or Son of Zorn
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
This is Us is a high concept prestige drama, they're clearly going for the yuppie smart-thinker class that liked the Paul Haggis Crash or the film adaptation of The Hours, an audience that is constantly on the very borderline of crying about how poignant it all is. I'm not sure any of those people still watch network tv besides Shonda shows.
I think that's a midseason show too but yeah I can't imagine Jenna Elfman (star of maybe more one season TV shows than any other human ever) talking to an imaginary friend is going to find an audience.
I think that's a midseason show too but yeah I can't imagine Jenna Elfman (star of maybe more one season TV shows than any other human ever) talking to an imaginary friend is going to find an audience.
This is Us seems like another Six Degrees, i.e. the quiet character-driven show that wouldn't hit it big on a network or be a good fit for most cable demographics. So I expect to like it a whole lot and then aee it cancelled within a few eps.
The West Wing and FNL comparisons for Pitch, from the same creator as This is Us, gives me some hope for that show as well despite my lack of interest in baseball.
ShabbadooJr
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I'm disappointed The Grinder didn't get a second season. It was fantastic.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
This is Us is getting pretty solid reviews and also set the viewership record for "most Facebook video views of a new-show trailer during the seven days of upfront week" by quite a wide margin. (THIS IS IMPORTANT)
In terms of YouTube views for the trailers released 3 months ago on the respective official channel accounts and because I have no life:
(in millions)
This is Us - 8.43
Timeless - 8.19
Lethal Weapon - 4.36
The Good Place - 2.80
The Exorcist - 2.72
Son of Zorn - 2.70
Designated Survivor - 2.51
Pitch - 2.13
Speechless - 1.48
American Housewife - 1.27
Conviction - 822K
Frequency - 621K
MacGyver - 260K
The Great Indoors - 194K
Notorious - 188K
Bull - 172K
Kevin Can Wait - 135K
Pure Genius - 99K
Man with a Plan - ??
No Tomorrow - ??
In terms of YouTube views for the trailers released 3 months ago on the respective official channel accounts and because I have no life:
(in millions)
This is Us - 8.43
Timeless - 8.19
Lethal Weapon - 4.36
The Good Place - 2.80
The Exorcist - 2.72
Son of Zorn - 2.70
Designated Survivor - 2.51
Pitch - 2.13
Speechless - 1.48
American Housewife - 1.27
Conviction - 822K
Frequency - 621K
MacGyver - 260K
The Great Indoors - 194K
Notorious - 188K
Bull - 172K
Kevin Can Wait - 135K
Pure Genius - 99K
Man with a Plan - ??
No Tomorrow - ??
firehawk12
Subete no aware
^
It's easy to shit on old people, but now that I'm out of the 18-34 bracket, I realize that my viewing habits literally don't matter any more to anyone. lol
And hey, remember that eventually you'll be irrelevant too in a few years!
It's easy to shit on old people, but now that I'm out of the 18-34 bracket, I realize that my viewing habits literally don't matter any more to anyone. lol
And hey, remember that eventually you'll be irrelevant too in a few years!
Interesting list, thank you. I'll take any nugget of hope I can regarding This is Us. I mean, presuming I like the show.
It's interesting to see the further you go down them list the closer you get to what appears to be the most traditional TV, your laugh track multicams and your procedural CBS-type shows....
Well, it has weaker episodes like any TV series, but I never thought it wasn't interesting, but it at least had a good ending. No cliffhanger. But still would have loved to see more of it.
He always has great write-ups, though I think he said it won't be as robust as the HitFix days this go-around.
As for first cancellation... I'm going with Speechless.
I think This Is Us will be the surprise hit of the fall.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I'm not going to say that Limitless was the best show that got cancelled, but I feel like it probably had some of the most long-term commercial potential of any cancelled show last year.
I may eventually be irrelevant, but that won't mean I'll have to start liking CBS programming.
beat
Member
I think among the broadcast networks, only the CW is focused on 18-34. The rest focus on 18-49, so there's relevance for us for a few more years.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I really hope Kevin can Wait gets the axe quickly. But it's Lowest common denominator comedy, so knowing our luck it'll stick around like big bang theory and 2 and a half men and we'll all wonder how the fuck anyone watches that garbage.
McGuyver will stick around probably until sweeps then die off because of retro nostalgia bullcrap.
Same goes for Lethal Weapon.
Anything with an established franchise behind it likely won't get a quick axe because the networks don't want to risk ruining said franchises, so expect the first kill to be something new and stupid, not old and rebooted.
On the flip side, I kind of hope Frequency does well... it was a great film and should translate nicely to TV although I don't know how they'd do multiple seasons with it without royally fucking the butterfly effect / space time continuum.
McGuyver will stick around probably until sweeps then die off because of retro nostalgia bullcrap.
Same goes for Lethal Weapon.
Anything with an established franchise behind it likely won't get a quick axe because the networks don't want to risk ruining said franchises, so expect the first kill to be something new and stupid, not old and rebooted.
On the flip side, I kind of hope Frequency does well... it was a great film and should translate nicely to TV although I don't know how they'd do multiple seasons with it without royally fucking the butterfly effect / space time continuum.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Normally I just let my SO watch food channel or whatever she wants to watch.We just started watching The Office and New Girl. I've seen most of the office, she's seen none. Neither of us have watched New Girl.
It's mainly Netflix or Hbo for us. What would be the top tier network shows? I know Cable is like The Walking Dead, which I do watch. Is there anything else worthy? (I also have heard good things about The Americans).
Littlefang
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Except when certain shows like Person of Interest come on. Then the tv magically switches off for the hour and then back on when it's done.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Then, when you die alone sitting in front of your TV, your limp, lifeless body rolls over, hitting the buttons on the remote for your local CW affiliate.
Then you become part of the ~300k that will watch Crazy Ex-Girlfriend or Jane the Virgin just the same as a Mortal Kombat X tournament.
Then you become part of the ~300k that will watch Crazy Ex-Girlfriend or Jane the Virgin just the same as a Mortal Kombat X tournament.
Oh hey someone else here who remembers Six Degrees. How's it going buddy! 🤗
Once again Ratsky puts actual effort into this stuff. My post was just a bunch of copy/pasted lists mixed in with some bad snark. How has no one pulled back my curtain yet?
I love rubbing salt into people's wounds but it was way easier last year with shows like Mad Men and Hannibal ending.
When I figure out how to make half decent gifs ala Sunhi style then we're in trouble.
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