Jon Favreau interviews Ctraig about Bond: http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_23_report_jul11b.php3?t=&s=&id=02913
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James Bond 23 - SKYFALL (Javier Bardem CONFIRMED as Bond villain!)
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Foliorum Viridum
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I'm not sure how one would top Casino Royale.
Foliorum Viridum
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Oh yeah, I didn't mean that's what I took from the quote. I just don't know if a Bond film will ever connect with me the way CR did.Solo said:
"Classic Bond" isn't an exciting prospect to me since I never really liked a Bond film (bar maybe Goldfinger and Goldeneye) before CR.
Basically, CR is maybe in my top 10 of all-time. It changed my view of the Bond franchise entirely and I want them to follow that up with something that's much better that QoS, but I don't really know how they can with the direction they've taken.
Foliorum Viridum
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Maybe not, but QoS was definitely more style over substance that previous Bonds were compared to CR which is a pretty intense and dark focus on two characters whom fall in love.
The best scene in QoS was
and the scene with Vesper's
. The rest? Looked flash, didn't interest me at all.
The best scene in QoS was
Matthias dying
boyfriend who is getting cosy with the other spy.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I picked up Blood Stone today. Love Craig's Bond, and his comments about 23 have got me excited 
SCULLIBUNDO
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Its really just a question of whether Mendes can shoot action as I'm sure he's going to nail everything else.
After watching HANNA and seeing Wright handle action, I would love to see him take a stab at the series.
After watching HANNA and seeing Wright handle action, I would love to see him take a stab at the series.
Yeah, he's pretty much done a lot of "quiet" (albeit fantastic) movies. I hope they give us an iconic car chase scene this time around, eventhough I liked the QoS intro scene, it can -- no, it should -- be topped.Scullibundo said:
Foliorum Viridum
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Wright really did nail Hanna as a character piece in the same way I'd want Bond moving forward. That would be a really interesting film.
I actually liked Forster's action - the problem was in the editing moreso than the composition. That opening chase scene was stylish as fuck, but the rapid fire editing was too much. I think Mendes will do fine. If the script is good like Craig says, that will help too. Action is always bumped up several notches when you actually give a fuck about what is going on.
The thing with Casino Royale, the parkour chase scene was so damn incredible that any action scene in QoS would fall flat for me. I liked the opening car chase, but I didn't have the same excitement and memorable moment for it like I did with the final car chase in New York in Bourne Ultimatum as far as recent action thrillers go.Solo said:
Thats because Martin Cambell is, when directing actual people and stunts instead of CG, one of the best action directors around. Dude knows how to expertly stage, shoot and cut action. That construction parkour scene is a thing of beauty, the best and most memorable action sequence of the past decade. And the airport scene isn't far behind.
Forster, while having his own strengths, was not cut from that cloth.
Forster, while having his own strengths, was not cut from that cloth.
SCULLIBUNDO
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What's funny about Casino Royale is that it did the big action movie no-no in peaking its action at the start of the film and winding down toward the end in terms of set-pieces. Yet every action scene was so good and our attachment to the characters at the end so concrete, that by the nailgun scene it didn't matter.
The other thing that irked me about the car chase in QoS was the fact that there wasn't one in CR, so when the beginning of QoS started off with a car chase, I set my expectations for it to be grandiose and epic. Instead, we had Bond being unable to speed away from some random Alfa Romeos in his government suped-up Aston Martin, albeit on an incredibly beautiful road. Plus, the fading quick cuts made it look like a slow-motion commercial for the first 45 seconds before it actually went into the action.Solo said:
The Venice house scene was top-notch though, so it had another huge peak.Scullibundo said:
What is the closest thing Mendes has done to an action sequence? I'm racking my brain, but all I am seeing is American Beauty right now, lolz. I think I've seen all his films outside of Revolutionary Road.
Interested to see how he fares. It would be really cool if the twist was that there weren't any big action setpieces and it was going to be just a very lean, suspenseful espionage thriller closer to Dr. No.
Interested to see how he fares. It would be really cool if the twist was that there weren't any big action setpieces and it was going to be just a very lean, suspenseful espionage thriller closer to Dr. No.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Solo said:
EXACTLY what I was about to say.
I would welcome it whilst most audiences would fucking hate it.
Dr. No is my favourite Bond alongside CR.
Expendable.
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Solo said:
But, not really.
Cold-Steel
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Mendes' style lends itself closely to Casino Royale for action scenes.
Anyone who has seen Road to Perdition has seen bits of this; he goes more for characters being exposed to extreme, high tension situations rather than all out gunfests.
He's also a very artistic director. The gunplay in Road to Perdition is mostly concealed but plays out in highly stylised shots.
Plus he's worked with Craig before and that's a good thing.
Anyone who has seen Road to Perdition has seen bits of this; he goes more for characters being exposed to extreme, high tension situations rather than all out gunfests.
He's also a very artistic director. The gunplay in Road to Perdition is mostly concealed but plays out in highly stylised shots.
Plus he's worked with Craig before and that's a good thing.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I just really wish they would axe the whole practice of only sticking with native directors.
When Craig was cast after working with Spielberg on the best spy thriller of the decade, there was nothing I wanted more than for them to reunite on Stevie's much dreamed about debut to Bond.
When Craig was cast after working with Spielberg on the best spy thriller of the decade, there was nothing I wanted more than for them to reunite on Stevie's much dreamed about debut to Bond.
Cold-Steel
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Solo said:
From a cinematography standpoint, absolutely.
The acting and dramatic scenes will also be of the highest calibre.
My worry; like many others, is that the action scenes will be really boring. Or highly stylized but still, boring.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'll agree with that.
SCULLIBUNDO
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What locations are we going to again? South Africa and India?
Casino Royale is hard to top location wise.
Casino Royale is hard to top location wise.
Yeah, we've basically got another Marc Forster-esque wildcard in Mendes. The obvious benefit Mendes has is that hes coming after QoS and can learn from mistakes Forster made.
EDIT: South Africa and India are confirmed. Great Wall of China rumored. The Bahamas are ALWAYS tought to top.
EDIT: South Africa and India are confirmed. Great Wall of China rumored. The Bahamas are ALWAYS tought to top.
Spotless Mind
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Yes please! I was hopeful this was the direction they were heading in after Casino Royale and why i felt QoS was disappointing and a giant step back in some areas.Solo said:
I'm with Sculli in wanting Joe Wright to take a jab at Bond 24. I just got back from Hanna and thought he did a fantastic job with the action sequences.
I don't want another QoS, but I LOVED QoS - I loved it following CR because after the tense relationship climax of CR we got a hardened Bond zipping around the world doing shit, chop-chop pace, no looking back. I'd like it if the series waxes and wanes between style-as-substance movies like that, when they're as elegant as QoS was, and more suspenseful espionage. Of course we've waited way too long for a new movie, but if they come out regularly I don't mind varying things up.
Get to it.
overcast said:
Get to it.
http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_23_report_jul11c.php3?s=bond23&id=02914
3 months? Sounds like the majority of the film will be set in India.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I still don't completely understand why they won't let Spielberg do a Bond movie. THE MAN IS A LEGEND AND HE WANTS TO DO YOUR FILM, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
I was just about to say how much I wouldn't want Spielberg to do a Bond film, then I remembered how fantastic Munich was. And that almost seemed like a side project for him.
legacyzero
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Am I alone on this one?
I absolutely HATED Casino and Quantum (thought Casino was the most interesting of the two).
I just miss the ridiculous villains, end of the world type death rays, (and Pierce Brosnan.)
Is is just me, or is the new Bond flicks..............slow..
I absolutely HATED Casino and Quantum (thought Casino was the most interesting of the two).
I just miss the ridiculous villains, end of the world type death rays, (and Pierce Brosnan.)
Is is just me, or is the new Bond flicks..............slow..
I'm starting to have some faith. Casino Royale was the shit, and Quantum of Solace has been winning me over as time passes, as an action movie at least. But I feel that Bond should go back to being more Bond and less Bourne.
Just make it a bit more spectacular, with a bit less Bourne in it.
Just make it a bit more spectacular, with a bit less Bourne in it.
legacyzero
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NotTheGuyYouKill said:
Just visualizing a Bond film by Spielberg in my minds eye makes me all kinds of warm and fuzzy inside. That would be awesome.
Although I just dont think Daniel Craig would work as Bond under Spielberg's direction.
AgentChris
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I hope Christopher Nolan directs a Bond film.
timetokill
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legacyzero said:
Well, if nothing else, I hope you're alone on this.
I mean, I loved Brosnan as a visual for Bond, and I still love Goldeneye, but some of the later ones were especially bad. And I don't think every villain has to be over-the-top ridiculous to be memorable.
And I absolutely cannot follow how you could have hated Casino Royale. Especially caps-lock HATED. Just unfathomable.
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