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Art from unused Eternal Darkness endings and a (cancelled?) Silicon Knights GC game
- Thread starter Mama Robotnik
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Prime Blue
Member
The only appropriate answer.Rocket Punch said:
There actually were FMVs in the game that depicted these apocalyptic scenarios.Mama Robotnik said:
Uploaded to ImageShack because they allow multiple images at once. Since people are posting images from Photobucket which turn into deleted notices after heavy traffic, I guess this is okay.
I heard in the original scriptYsiadmihi said:
he committed suicide in front of Edward. His statue isn't in the Hall so he may have survived. Peter Jacob is also one of the few survivors.
Great game. Would love a sequel.
EDIT: Wow at the above post. Never seen stills from those FMVs.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Honestly? I'd love to see Silicon Knights make a new Eternal Darkness that used the Vitality Sensor for the Insanity Meter.
FunkyPajamas
Member
I'd rather Nintendo gave the IP to Retro for WiiHD.GodDuckman said:
Amazing find as always, Thanks Mama Robotnik!
Pancho said:I am so disappointed in myself that I never finished the game
Back then I was such a pussy and I got to thelost my shit, and returned the game. Now I can't find the game anywhere since I still want to finish it.bathtub scene
Well, it's not much help, but the
bathtub scene
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
it's pathetic that no game has captured change over time as well as eternal darkness.
are there any other games that let the player revisit areas after long expanses of time and display drastic changes to architecture and mood? i'm genuinely curious. it seems like a very under utilized idea.
are there any other games that let the player revisit areas after long expanses of time and display drastic changes to architecture and mood? i'm genuinely curious. it seems like a very under utilized idea.
FunkyPajamas
Member
Chrono Trigger and Ocarina of Time spring to mind, though none of them as in-depth as Eternal Darkness. I'm pretty sure there are more though.beelzebozo said:
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
FunkyPajamas said:
you'd expect it to be used more in rpgs, but again, in the ones i've played it doesn't stand out as much as it does in eternal darkness for some reason. it was very pronounced and an element of focus.
SonOfABeep
Banned
that first piece of art freaks me out
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
duckroll said:
is it that black and white?
this is from 2008. has there been an update?
duckroll said:
ahhh yes!
beelzebozo said:
Haha, this is the same Denis Dyack who tried to take Crystal Dynamics to court when they continued making Legacy of Kain games without Silicon Knights. Of course he would say that.
Legally, Nintendo owns Eternal Darkness as an IP, and everything related to it. Silicon Knights is credited as the developer, but the copyright and trademarks are all owned by Nintendo in every country in the world where Eternal Darkness was released.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
duckroll said:
this seems proof that we're likely to not get a sequel to this game any time soon.
beelzebozo said:
It's pretty rare for developers to own their own creations when working on projects funded by large publishers. It's just the way it is unfortunately. Nothing is stopping Silicon Knights from making a spiritual sequel to Eternal Darkness with another publisher though, unless no one is interested.
Square owning the Xenogears IP did not stop Takahashi and his team from leaving and making Xenosaga. Sony owning the Demon's Souls IP did not stop From Software from making Dark Souls.
Heck, when the creator of Fire Emblem left Intelligent Systems and made Tear Ring Saga (originally called Emblem Saga), Nintendo tried to sue him for copyright infringement. They failed on all levels of appeal. The creator(s) of Game Franchise A leaving and making Game Franchise B with similar themes and tones does not amount to copyright infringement. Enterbrain (the publisher) was dumb though, because the way they marketed the entire Emblem Saga thing got them fined by the courts for unfair competition because they actually tried to pass it off as a Fire Emblem follow-up. Not copyright infringement though.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
interesting, and totally true. i wonder how much of eternal darkness and how much of it was nintendo. you know what i mean? it would be interesting to see how a spiritual successor done completely by silicon knights would turn out.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Eternal Darkness still gives me life, that game is everything a survival-horror fan could ask for.
*worship*
*worship*
beelzebozo said:
Based on how Nintendo works with other developers for such projects (and various Iwata Asks interviews about all their recent Wii games with other JP developers), I'll say it's very likely that 100% of Eternal Darkness in terms of gameplay mechanics, story, concept, implementation is Silicon Knights. They obviously had full creative control and Nintendo agreed to fund and publish the idea they sold to them so to speak.
Nintendo's usual role in such projects is that they would attach producers or supervisors from Nintendo to the project, and they have to manage the project effectively giving advise and recommendations throughout the development process. This usually means that while keeping the creative parts of the game entirely up to the developer, they try to maintain a certain standard of quality control, usability and accessibility (good tutorials, tool tips, proper menu options for controls and various settings, etc). There is probably a higher level of QA and testing on the game than non-Nintendo Silicon Knights titles too.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
that's all good news, then, and at least points toward the possibility of some capability on silicon knights' part to turn out a game of similar quality. still, why do i feel so reticent to believe in them? too human wasn't completely awful, but it seemed to miss what made eternal darkness so great by quite a wide margin, and was caught up in development so long without a clear vision (even if we dispense with the very early prototyping done on psx and gcn). it just seems like silicon knights has trouble finishing games, and when they aren't even publicly working on something, i'm even more discouraged that it'll ever happen.
but i want it to so badly.
but i want it to so badly.